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[0Life]

Now, do not misunderstand this thread, some of it is just whining. In spite of this, there is a legitimate complaint.

We all know of "cheese" builds. Splat Cats, AC20 Cats and so on. Many of us know that these mechs do have serious limitations, namely range.

Yet, this does not stop them from scoring a kill in the smaller maps due to the potential to turn a corner or go assist a friendly and find that suddenly, we are face to face with one. This would not be such a problem, were it rare. With the prevalence of such builds, due to how they are technically effective, causes it to be a problem.

Streakcats were considered enough of an issue that they were nerfed. How long until the other "cheese" builds receive the same attention? I for one am more than a little tired of it.

Now then, allow the trolling and flaming to begin, I will not be checking this topic again so do what you like.

[Inconspicuous]

0Life, on 24 February 2013 - 10:43 PM, said:

Now then, allow the trolling and flaming to begin, I will not be checking this topic again so do what you like.

Then why did you start it?

Mods should probably just close this thread...

[Thorn Hallis]

Those builds were allready old in CB. I see no change coming.

[SpiralRazor]

Reported thread for trolling, contributes zero thats useful to anyone.

[Johnny Reb]

Only thing that "nerfed" the streak cat was ecm!

[Kobold]

0Life, on 24 February 2013 - 10:43 PM, said:

Streakcats were considered enough of an issue that they were nerfed.

Fixed that for you.

The problem wasn't the cat, the problem was lots of a very very very overly good weapon. Reduced cockpit shake from missile hits helped a little, and the chosen implementation of ECM finished them off the Streak cat, only because it couldn't carry its own ECM.

Streaks are still broken.

[One Medic Army]

They're already being nerfed, by being forced to play 1 in 8 matches on alpine.
And dear god there's a lot of whining on that subject.

[Noth]

Just want to point out that streak cats were not nerfed. Nothing was done to the streaks nor the catapult. All that was done was ECM was brought in. Streak Cats are still broken if there is no ECM around.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

Bare in the mind, the problem isn't the mech (The Cat-A1, The Raven-3L) its the weapons and equipment they are using, namely streaks and ECM.

The problem stems from the **** poor weapon balance and bad game mechanics. Although, I supposed one could argue that the torso twist on the Catapult is a bit much, but that is up for debate. Think of it this way, if I take a Raven-3L and I'm not using ECM and streaks, am I still OP? Do I stand a chance against a Raven using those systems? No, I am not/don't stand a chance.

[Kobold]

mwhighlander, on 24 February 2013 - 11:21 PM, said:

Bare in the mind, the problem isn't the mech (The Cat-A1, The Raven-3L) its the weapons and equipment they are using, namely streaks and ECM.

Seriously. Notice no one is complaining about Streak Cats any more? Streaks didn't suddenly get fixed. Now they are only useful (abusive) when on a mech that can also run ECM.

[MustrumRidcully]

Kobold, on 24 February 2013 - 11:09 PM, said:

Fixed that for you.

The problem wasn't the cat, the problem was lots of a very very very overly good weapon. Reduced cockpit shake from missile hits helped a little, and the chosen implementation of ECM finished them off the Streak cat, only because it couldn't carry its own ECM.

Streaks are still broken.

See the combinaton of ECM and Streakmandos and Raven 3Ls with Streak.

It is difficult for a game to become like this...

[Ter Ushaka]

I am pleased to be the first to welcome you lucky posters to your new home. It seems this well-worn topic, beaten about much like a dead horse, has seen fit to be misjumped into Katetoa.


Do enjoy your stay.

[KissMyCloaca]

AC20 CATS DO NOT EXIST ON TABLETOP, PLEASE DISCUSS BUT I WILL NOT BE COMING BACK TO THIS THREAD LATER SHITLORDS

[Mike Forst]

Single page thread, please fix

[Ter Ushaka]

Working on it. Keep your posts on.

[Mike Forst]

Posting again

[Ryvucz]

I see your post, and raise it one post more.

[Jalak Bali]

mwhighlander, on 24 February 2013 - 11:21 PM, said:

Bare in the mind, the problem isn't the mech (The Cat-A1, The Raven-3L) its the weapons and equipment they are using, namely streaks and ECM.

The problem stems from the **** poor weapon balance and bad game mechanics. Although, I supposed one could argue that the torso twist on the Catapult is a bit much, but that is up for debate. Think of it this way, if I take a Raven-3L and I'm not using ECM and streaks, am I still OP? Do I stand a chance against a Raven using those systems? No, I am not/don't stand a chance.

Did you missed the period where Streaks were ALWAYS hitting the center torso? That was what made Streaks OP. Jenners ruled the field because with just a few Streaks they could core heavier mechs. It got nerfed by making Streaks randomly hit any part of the mech, making it inefficient for fighting mechs with high armor but still good against mechs with low armor. But I guess most of you never bothered to notice this because you're terrible at this game.

ECM was never a straight nerf for Streaks. It's a nerf for LRMs.

[BritishJesus]

Mike Forst, on 25 February 2013 - 10:40 AM, said:

Posting again

Ryvucz, on 25 February 2013 - 10:41 AM, said:

I see your post, and raise it one post more.

Double or nothing.

[Grraarrgghh]

This thread is dumb.

POSTING IN A DUMB THREAD.