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[chiess]

Hey ppl! I'm pretty new to this game and i want to brawl. I have palyed raven 3l alot, but he is not interesting nor fun to play i want smthing new, so can u suggest me smthing? i would like to buy atlas d-dc but i think that its is going to get nerfed, he's overused also. i want smthing that has the potential to kill atlas d-dc in brawl or atleast cause him major damage. i dont care if mech is cheap or expensive, just don't suggest me any ravens. ohh and sorry for my bad english, i'm from Lithuania, where this language is not popular.

[StalaggtIKE]

Best brawler, imo, is D-DC with:

• 325+ standard engine (for faster torso turn speed)
  
• 12+ DHS
  
• 2xmlasers
  
• 2xUAC5
  
• 3xSRM6

This combination allows you to stay cool, while maintaining a constant barrage on your intended target. Use the dual UAC5s to intimidate and rock your prey as you close in. Use mlasers to keep your dps up. Finally, use the 3xSRM6 as a closer.


Here's an example of the build: AS7-D-DC.

Edited by StalaggtIKE, 20 February 2013 - 06:30 AM.

[I C Wiener]

StalaggtIKE, on 20 February 2013 - 06:21 AM, said:

Best brawler, imo, is D-DC with:

• 325+ standard engine (for faster torso turn speed)
  
• 12+ DHS
  
• 2xmlasers
  
• 2xUAC5
  
• 3xSRM6

This combination allows you to stay cool, while maintaining a constant barrage on your intended target.

Here's and example of the build: AS7-D-DC.

I use a kinda similar but slower build:

Standard Engine 260
2 SRM6 & 1 SRM4 with Artemis
2 UAC 5
2 Large Laser

You got a bit more firepower at medium and long distances with that while still being a decent brawler


Even more brawly is my Atlas-D-build:

Standard Engine 320
2 LB 10-X AC
2 SRM6 with Artemis
2 Medium Pulse Laser

Nothing for medium/ high range here but devastating damage in close combat situations and a decent 52 kp/h without speed tweak

[chiess]

So who should i buy then d-dc or d, who is capaable of dealing more dmg per game

[StalaggtIKE]

chiess, on 20 February 2013 - 06:37 AM, said:

So who should i buy then d-dc or d, who is capaable of dealing more dmg per game

I think the D-DC's ability to carry ECM is invaluable. This allows you to close in on targets undetected. This way you're within your optimum range before you are forced to engage a target. Also masking your paperdoll and weapon loadout is nice. This means your enemy doesn't know what to expect until you're close or firing on them.

Edited by StalaggtIKE, 20 February 2013 - 07:07 AM.

[Gothbloodman]

I'm not a huge brawler or Assault mech expert but:

Atlas has max armor, so you've got to figure that would be good for a brawl.
D-DC is only overused due to ECM. If that isn't a "must-have" for you, any of the other models may work too.
Though it does help him get into range without dying...
Stalker has max weapon hardpoints, so that sounds good. Plus they are a little faster then Atlas.

As for brawler weapons:
Heavy ACs are nice.
Med Lasers seem to be preferred.
SRMs are deadly, but consider either Artemis for the SRM6's or SRM4's as both have tighter spread.
Streaks + Light Mechs = good friends (assuming there are no ECMs!)

Hope this helps!

[Redshift2k5]

Stalkers can also outmatch an Atlas for raw damage, in particular because they con carry more SRM6s and more medium lasers (allowing alpha strikes of up to 90 damage) but that build suffers from low range and relatively easy-to-destroy side torsos.

[Cybermech]

I love catapults with srm's/lasers and JJ's.

Depends on your play style but I like to advance, retreat and flank in them.
Also can get lazy and put in some Lrm's.
There is also the K2 version with you can access dual ac20, very nastey but limited on alpine.

[chiess]

K then ppl, is 4horsemen atlas ddc build still good ?

[80Bit]

Please keep in mind that brawling is not just a force on force comparison. If you are asking "what mech will win most one on one fights" then yes, the D-DC is hard to beat. But if you are asking "which mech is best at brawling in matches", that is NOT the D-DC, because Atlases lack the speed to initiate brawls effectively. While you are going to win most close up fights in your Atlas, people that have speed (read, almost everyone) can actively prevent you from brawling with them, or start the brawl on their terms.

For more well rounding brawling, there are great brawl builds for various Cataphacts, Catapults, Dragons, and Hunchbacks. But a very stand out brawler currently is the 3xSRM6 Centurion 9-A. It is not at all uncommon to see them with damage numbers matching the Assault and Heavy mechs.

[chiess]

does anyone know is trebuchet is good mech or atleast his expencive models it seem that he can put a brawl or am i wrong ?

[Chaos7]

You can go for HBK-4SP, which I think is an excellent mech and brawler. Being very fast and carrying a very good alpha (about 55) will run around an Atlas while damaging it severely and if you are skilled enough kill it.

Also the XL Splatcat will in most cases destroy an Atlas. A real nightmare to be honest.

Cheers!

[IceSerpent]

Best brawlers in game (imho):

Atlas D-DC (already mentioned)
Stalker 3F (6 med. lasers + 4 SRM6)
Catapult K2 (2 AC20)
Catapult A1 (6 SRM6)
Hunchback 4SP (4 med. lasers + 2 SRM6)

[CmdrPoopyPants]

I love(d) my Stalker 3F because of it's versitility.. then I picked up a 5M to do the variant work.. turns out, you can get more dps out of the 5M .. because you can get 2 more srm rounds out of it for almost the same heat. Here's what I run: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c19099998989309 to very good effect (if I can avoid running into the entire enemy pack, or aviod splat cats). I've even pulled down a few Atlai with it, depending on pilot of course.

edit: I also kind of liked my Hunchback 4G with 3xAC/2s.. good punch with 12 dps (for a little while, heat gets to be an issue).. but I ran an XL-255 in it so it was a bit squishy and easily blown up. That's what prompted me to move on to the bigger toys.

Edited by CmdrPoopyPants, 20 February 2013 - 12:32 PM.

[Rakura]

Atlas D-DC (already mentioned)
Catapault A-1 all SRMS
MY go to: Stalker 5M (5 medium Las + 5 SRM 6's, 310 STD Engine, Double Heatsinks)

Edited by Rakura, 20 February 2013 - 12:33 PM.

[IceSerpent]

CmdrPoopyPants, on 20 February 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:

I love(d) my Stalker 3F because of it's versitility.. then I picked up a 5M to do the variant work.. turns out, you can get more dps out of the 5M .. because you can get 2 more srm rounds out of it for almost the same heat. Here's what I run: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c19099998989309 to very good effect (if I can avoid running into the entire enemy pack, or aviod splat cats). I've even pulled down a few Atlai with it, depending on pilot of course.

You can get more dps out of 5M, but it makes for a worse brawler than 3F due to its limited torso twist.

[CmdrPoopyPants]

IceSerpent, on 20 February 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

You can get more dps out of 5M, but it makes for a worse brawler than 3F due to its limited torso twist.

Hmm.. didn't really notice that. I guess I just got used to backing up and turning to stay engaged, but more twist is always better. I might have to dust off the 3F and check that out.

[IceSerpent]

CmdrPoopyPants, on 20 February 2013 - 12:43 PM, said:

Hmm.. didn't really notice that. I guess I just got used to backing up and turning to stay engaged, but more twist is always better. I might have to dust off the 3F and check that out.

3F has 85 degrees twist, all other Stalkers have 60 degrees - makes a lot of diference in a brawl.

[MadCat02]

My troll Stalker can do up to 1400 damage per game using 5 srm and 5 mid lasers . You need to be very smart though

Still i would recomend atlas cuz hes more reliable than stalker

Edited by MadCat02, 20 February 2013 - 02:27 PM.

[Splinters]

IceSerpent, on 20 February 2013 - 09:47 AM, said:

Best brawlers in game (imho):

Atlas D-DC (already mentioned)
Stalker 3F (6 med. lasers + 4 SRM6)
Catapult K2 (2 AC20)
Catapult A1 (6 SRM6)
Hunchback 4SP (4 med. lasers + 2 SRM6)

Completely agree with all the selections above. Other brawlers that are less recognized but still effective:

Centurion 9-A (3x SRM6's w/ 2ML's)

Fun brawlers: (run behind and drop ac20's in opposing mech's CT-R)
Cicada 3M (AC/20 w/ 2 tons of ammo)
Raven 4X (AC/20 w/ 2 tons of ammo)

-S

Edited by Splinters, 20 February 2013 - 03:53 PM.