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Highlander Hgn-733C Will Need 3 Targeting Reticle.


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#1 Tennex

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:13 PM

1 for AC20 right arm, which cannot move horizontally but can move vertically
1 for torso mounted weapons
1 for SRM6 Left arm which can move both horizontally and vertically.

How will this be implemented?
The dragon's original/cannon concept was scratched because it would have required 3 reticle.

A possible solution is to split the right and left arm reticles. into two half circles that move independently. this would help them prepare for future mechs like the Victor. Since not every mech has the same amount of actuators in both arms.

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Edited by Tennex, 04 April 2013 - 06:23 AM.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:16 PM

I think the best solution is just to handwave and say "look! It rotates like magic!"

While I'm all for keeping it real, I think there are much more pressing issues to focus on, and I would totally understand it if they just shrugged at this one.

#3 Tennex

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:17 PM

i'd hate to say this but i think PGI will be lazy and just bind the AC20 arm to the torso reticle. I hope not though.

Becuase implementing the 3 reticle system would pave the way for or a host of other asymmetrical canon mechs.

Edited by Tennex, 04 April 2013 - 06:24 AM.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:17 PM

Just lock the left arm as well, problem solved! ;)

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:19 PM

3 reticles would usher in the viability of my Victor. I'm all for it and for the sweet sweet alpha convergence in the center. Bring on three reticles, I can handle it!

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:19 PM

If you are looking for logic and reason, some weapons equiped on the left arm shouldn't be able to hit targets at the far right side of the mech.

And we didn't even gone into the convergence issue.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:19 PM

or leave it out all together. can't wait for the QQ, but i doubt we'll see an ac20 in the arm of a highlander.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:20 PM

Did they announce the 733C variant? I haven't seen a variant announcement yet, but easily could've missed it... if there is one, could you please post a linky?

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:21 PM

Run a YLW

That's how they handle it.

Also: http://mwowiki.org/wiki/Highlander

Considering the number of stalker variants added I see no reason why the 733c wouldn't be included. Hell it's almost a must considering how big of a game changer it is.

Edited by Carrioncrows, 03 April 2013 - 12:32 PM.


#10 Tennex

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:21 PM

View PostPurpleNinja, on 03 April 2013 - 12:19 PM, said:

If you are looking for logic and reason, some weapons equiped on the left arm shouldn't be able to hit targets at the far right side of the mech.

And we didn't even gone into the convergence issue.


i was hoping for them to implement a system so they can make the dragon the right way.

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#11 Victor Morson

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:21 PM

View PostTennex, on 03 April 2013 - 12:17 PM, said:

i'd hate to say this but i think PGI will be lazy and just bind the AC20 arm to the torso reticle. I hope not though.

Becuase implementing the 3 reticle system would pave the way for origincal dragon concept implemented as the grand dragon.


It's a shame nobody really cares about the Grand Dragon that much.

#12 Tennex

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:22 PM

View PostVictor Morson, on 03 April 2013 - 12:21 PM, said:


It's a shame nobody really cares about the Grand Dragon that much.


well we currently have the grand dragon. the original dragon was never supposed to have lower right arm actuators.

#13 Kaox Veed

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:23 PM

Well it is a good thing we aren't getting a 733C then.

#14 Tennex

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:25 PM

View PostKaox Veed, on 03 April 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

Well it is a good thing we aren't getting a 733C then.


i hope they solve the problem rather than avoid the issue. we are missing out on some cannon setups.

having a 3 reticule system, may also allow people to remove/equip lower arm actuators to their mechs.
as it stands the highlander won't be able to mount an AC20

Edited by Tennex, 03 April 2013 - 12:27 PM.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:28 PM

View PostProsperity Park, on 03 April 2013 - 12:20 PM, said:

Did they announce the 733C variant? I haven't seen a variant announcement yet, but easily could've missed it... if there is one, could you please post a linky?


From Ask The Devs #27, we will be getting 4 Highlander variants, including the 733C.

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Q: How will mechs that have less than 3 variants achieve the elite and master tier levels of the mech trees? For example, the Highlander has been announced to only have 1 variant at launch (possible this has changed) [Tvae]
A: I only knew one variant at the time, saying something like "the only variant I know of is the HGN 732." The variants are: HGN-732, HGN-733, HGN-733C, HGN-733P.


http://mwomercs.com/...evs-27-answers/

Edited by Khavi Vetali, 03 April 2013 - 12:29 PM.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:30 PM

I actually wouldn't mind seeing a 3-reticle system. Cannon-izing the dragon would breathe new life in the chassis, as it would then be able to use an ac20 in the arm or two uac5s.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:30 PM

View PostTennex, on 03 April 2013 - 12:13 PM, said:

The dragon's original concept was scratched because it would have required 3 reticle.


It was scratched, because we told them the art is wrong and that Dragon always had a lower arm acutator, only that ****** art didn't represent it right.

View PostProsperity Park, on 03 April 2013 - 12:20 PM, said:

Did they announce the 733C variant? I haven't seen a variant announcement yet, but easily could've missed it... if there is one, could you please post a linky?


Here's your proof:


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Straight out of gamefiles. ;)

#18 Tennex

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:31 PM

View PostAdridos, on 03 April 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:



Here's your proof:


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Straight out of gamefiles. ;)


you are a god among men.

side note: looks like we get half a sunken chest.

Edited by Tennex, 03 April 2013 - 12:32 PM.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:31 PM

View PostTennex, on 03 April 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:

having a 3 reticule system, may also allow people to remove/equip lower arm actuators to their mechs.
as it stands the highlander won't be able to mount an AC20


I believe the actuators are used for balancing and restricting the loadouts available, being able to remove them would change this mechanic. I doubt we will see this as an option.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:33 PM

View Postvon Pilsner, on 03 April 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:


I believe the actuators are used for balancing and restricting the loadouts available, being able to remove them would change this mechanic. I doubt we will see this as an option.


your right. the actuators restriction of AC20 was a product of PGI.

normally an AC20 woudl still be moutnable through split criticals.

Edited by Tennex, 03 April 2013 - 12:33 PM.






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