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[Aegis Kleais]

I have been very shamed by proxy of all the immature negative feedback on Artemis.

A criticism is worthless to a company when expressed in an immature and non-constructive manner. You can be against something if you like, but for the love of f*cking it sideways, be at the least mature and respectful.

Otherwise you just come off as entitled, spoiled and disrespectful.

This has been a rare lapse in an otherwise solid community. To those who did not fall into such mannerisms, you have my respect. To everyone else, buck the f*ck up. There's nothing wrong with PGI and Razer running a promotion. And there's nothing wrong with you not getting anything out of it.

[neodym]

I told you its not Cyclops

[SilentWolff]

Aegis Kleais, on 05 June 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

I have been very shamed by proxy of all the immature negative feedback on Artemis.

A criticism is worthless to a company when expressed in an immature and non-constructive manner. You can be against something if you like, but for the love of f*cking it sideways, be at the least mature and respectful.

Otherwise you just come off as entitled, spoiled and disrespectful.

This has been a rare lapse in an otherwise solid community. To those who did not fall into such mannerisms, you have my respect. To everyone else, buck the f*ck up. There's nothing wrong with PGI and Razer running a promotion. And there's nothing wrong with you not getting anything out of it.

This.
Everything PGI has done for this community and you get these asshats that would complain if they were hung with a new rope. Dont like it, dont buy it. Cant afford it, get a job and save your money like everyone else does.

To PGI, this is great. Looks very awesome and I will buy it for sure. Way to go guys!

[neodym]

Aegis Kleais, on 05 June 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

I have been very shamed by proxy of all the immature negative feedback on Artemis.

A criticism is worthless to a company when expressed in an immature and non-constructive manner. You can be against something if you like, but for the love of f*cking it sideways, be at the least mature and respectful.

Otherwise you just come off as entitled, spoiled and disrespectful.

This has been a rare lapse in an otherwise solid community. To those who did not fall into such mannerisms, you have my respect. To everyone else, buck the f*ck up. There's nothing wrong with PGI and Razer running a promotion. And there's nothing wrong with you not getting anything out of it.

I agree with everything except,when I think about it we get something out of it,we get chance to own that razer controler,thats good thing

[Reod]

There is diffrence in supporting game and being blind fanboy.

Truth is like many said already it was bad move hyping things that only hardcore mechwarrior fans (and not all of them ) in US will buy when Mechwarror franchise need to reach and gain totally new playerbase in whole world...i dont know whos in charge in PR but he need to be scolded.

Supporting things like this (hyping wrong event - countdown etc) wont help franchise...


I dont mind razor and controller but it was shown in wrong time and in bad way ... wheres my mech

/dissapointed

[TLBFestus]

I for one was disappointed, but not disillusioned.

After all the hyperbole surrounding this I think even if they revealed 3 new mechs, that there would be disappointment it wasn't 4.

Hooking up with a company with a good (though debated) reputation is only a good thing. I do still think that they over did the "reveal" on this product, but then again the community might accept that they over did the "expectations" a tad as well.

Someone in another thread was asking when this will be available. Since it's concept, I think that they are following the new "Lean Startup" doctrine, whereby they are gauging interest in the product before they go into production. If they get a significant response, you can bet they will finish the product and go to production. If the reception is lukewarm, I wouldnt expect to see it leave the concept phase.

They might want to consider that rather than including a display, that they make the whole thing compatible with a tablet that the consumer already has, and can just bluetooth/wireless it from there.

Edited by TLBFestus, 05 June 2012 - 01:16 PM.

[lolshevik]

Aegis Kleais, on 05 June 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

I have been very shamed by proxy of all the immature negative feedback on Artemis.

A criticism is worthless to a company when expressed in an immature and non-constructive manner. You can be against something if you like, but for the love of f*cking it sideways, be at the least mature and respectful.

Otherwise you just come off as entitled, spoiled and disrespectful.

This has been a rare lapse in an otherwise solid community. To those who did not fall into such mannerisms, you have my respect. To everyone else, buck the f*ck up. There's nothing wrong with PGI and Razer running a promotion. And there's nothing wrong with you not getting anything out of it.

I look to the link between the internet, the communicative medium of game forums, and 'gamer' electronic entertainment consumers comparatively heavy use of both to account for the phenomena of vocalizing mass knee-jerk reactions to industry news/announcements. I can't think of any other commercial product that garners quite this kind of reaction by a layer of its consumer base. The added fanboy hype for long-awaited franchise installments certainly doesn't help.

Looking over the community reactions to the Artemis announcement made me immediately think of this.

For me, the reactionary and immature comments are made worse by the fact that the E3 floor hasn't even opened yet, so whatever impending news does or does not come out of the show hasn't even been taken into account, yet comments read as if users are already heartbroken in disappointment. Take it easy, please.

Edited by lolshevik, 05 June 2012 - 10:09 AM.

[Jack Dalton]

Reminds me of the overpriced SWTOR peripheral hype.

We all know how that turned out.

[Robovski]

Yeah, not really the thing to be bringing out for E3, and while I'm sure it's a nice thing I'd rather have new mech info. But it struck me as an advertising misfire to give all this build-up to a third party peripheral.

Anyhow I was going to use my trusty Cyborg stick. I bought quality and I still have it

But it looks neat.

[Reod]

lolshevik, on 05 June 2012 - 10:06 AM, said:

For me, the reactionary and immature comments are made worse by the fact that the E3 floor hasn't even opened yet, so whatever impending news does or does not come out of the show hasn't even been taken into account, yet comments read as if users are already heartbroken in disappointment. Take it easy, please.

Where did you saw immature comments???Most of us are already middle aged gamers and i didnt saw anyone insulting devs ... we are dissapointed and we present our opinions ... whats wrong with that?There is diffrence in constructive criticism and immature comments... its quite diffrent you are insulting fans by calling us immature.

Edited by Reod, 05 June 2012 - 10:14 AM.

[Jack Dalton]

Aegis Kleais, on 05 June 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

I have been very shamed by proxy of all the immature negative feedback on Artemis.

A criticism is worthless to a company when expressed in an immature and non-constructive manner. You can be against something if you like, but for the love of f*cking it sideways, be at the least mature and respectful.

Otherwise you just come off as entitled, spoiled and disrespectful.

This has been a rare lapse in an otherwise solid community. To those who did not fall into such mannerisms, you have my respect. To everyone else, buck the f*ck up. There's nothing wrong with PGI and Razer running a promotion. And there's nothing wrong with you not getting anything out of it.

For someone preaching maturity and respect, you certainly do condescend with some colorful language.

[Keebler]

I'm skipping the 14 pages of hate to post this reconciliation...

Unless the controller has the durability of the Thrustmaster Warthog or Cougar, OR even the lesser Saitek X52 Pro, I don't see a whole lot of utility into a proprietary form-factor that can not be modified...

Instead of trying to tie us to a piece of hardware... Provide us with some API Hooks to Output the individual Diagnostic Screens on the HUD to separate video sources. Since I have no knowledge of the Crytek3 Engine, let alone MWO's interface design, I can't assume it's that easy. However, if they're already providing a concept image to output the data to a dumbed-down iPad, WHY not just give us the ability to program our own?

Hell, release it as a Third Party Developer license or some such, and charge $100. Similar to how the Torque Engine is. I've done quite a bit development work for embedded control systems, automated automobiles, and home office automation. Even Neuro-Controlled Devices utilizing EEG input (NeuroSky, and Emotiv). So I do know what is feasible, but it might not be entirely practical.

Actually, take that a step further, As a Free-To-Play Game, since you are pretty much required on users to buy Add-Ons, a third party developer package would be a great way to add some value-added features to the game. Especially by allowing users to work on embedding their own controller setups. Look at the options there are for the Flight Sim and 3D Racing Sims. There are a plethora of options for customization. Yet there has never been a fully supported Mech Sim environment available to the average user.. (I'm not counting the once every 3 years offers to buy old Tesla Pods). MW:LL does have some mod-capabilities, but not something I would necessarily consider "simulator" worthy.

Anyway, ADHD is kicking in, losing the ability to remain on topic....

Great attempt at creating something original for the MWO Community, unfortunately, it's not exactly well placed in terms of complete usability. Some people will be able to use it, and the Steel Battalion setup WAS a very fun device, But Dual Sticks + Pedals (or HOTAS) is the way to go if you're going to go for a control Setup, not a single stick + hotkeys, and an iPad that is below your FOV.

Edited by Keebler, 05 June 2012 - 10:19 AM.

[shortpainter]

On the Gamasutra website, the article about this new joystick states; "a concept controller crafted to give gamers a competitive edge".

It makes me wonder what kind of edge those who buy this controller will have over everyone else. To be honest, if I spend 200 bucks to buy a controller, I expect to have an edge over mouse and keyboard players. With that said, I would hope any brand of joystick would offer and edge over other players.

is the screen a touch screen?

[lolshevik]

Reod, on 05 June 2012 - 10:13 AM, said:

Where did you saw immature comments???Most of us are already middle aged gamers and i didnt saw anyone insulting devs ... we are dissapointed and we present our opinions ... whats wrong with that?There is diffrence in constructive criticism and immature comments... its quite diffrent you are insulting fans by calling us immature.

I apologize if you read my comment as universalizing characteristics about the forum user base. I didn't mean to sound as if I was describing the entire community, rather only those many who posted the flood of 'LOL PGI trolled us' and more lengthy reactions denoting extreme disappointment about the controller announcement not being whatever they hoped it would be.

[Zoghak]

[Frantic Pryde]

Haven't about 85% of these puzzles and count down things always let a vast majority of people down in the past? Why is everyone suprised? Our expectations are just a bit I think

I like my X52, but I think this is cool. I'd be interested in the keypad and the MFD if they sell seperately. Then I can just add some pedals and I'd be set!

[Midnightjoker]

well my two cents are that its a pretty cool extra for what looks to be a very promising gaming experience. i would consider it if i didn't already have a joystick and price of course. i doubt it will be cheap. but super awesome, especially if you have your own 'cockpit' at home.

[Turbo Corvair]

Many people are complaining that this was over hyped, well they can't please everybody at once. There are a ton of people hanging around (mostly the die hard fans who will be loyal customers) who have been begging and pleading for a "Steel Battalion" type controller.

For those many people, and quite a few others this is and was an announcement worth hyping. We had already been told that the beta is on and invites are going out, we were already told when the founders kit goes on sale, and we were already told when the founders "open beta" will begin.

That being said, what did you expect the announcement was going to be?

The control looks nice to me. The only thing that would bother me (if I was in the market and I'm not) is that it doesn't look like it is going to be modular. It really needs to be able to split into three pieces so the player can position them as they see fit.

[Psyctooth]

Aegis Kleais, on 05 June 2012 - 09:38 AM, said:

I have been very shamed by proxy of all the immature negative feedback on Artemis.

A criticism is worthless to a company when expressed in an immature and non-constructive manner. You can be against something if you like, but for the love of f*cking it sideways, be at the least mature and respectful.

Otherwise you just come off as entitled, spoiled and disrespectful.

This has been a rare lapse in an otherwise solid community. To those who did not fall into such mannerisms, you have my respect. To everyone else, buck the f*ck up. There's nothing wrong with PGI and Razer running a promotion. And there's nothing wrong with you not getting anything out of it.

You know... I was the first guy to say sideways in a mannorism, many years ago. It was in Halo 2 of all places you know...

[Rayah]

I was extremely disappointed with the reveal...

I would get the darn thing too If I hadn't already spent over $100 on a good keyboard and mouse for this game...

Edited by Rayzor, 05 June 2012 - 10:32 AM.