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[Barbaric Soul]

This will give your computer the recommened specs to play MW:O at 1080p according to spec released by the Devs.


CPU- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103943

MB- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128530

RAM- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820178333

Video Card- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127664

$313.96 before shipping

If you need to do a full system rebuild, add these to that list

PSU- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817371045 (Least expensive PSU I would trust)

HD- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822136770 (not huge, but enough to get started with)

Case- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811146075 (My secondary rig is in one of these. Nice case with plenty of room and cable management for very little money)

DVD drive- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827135204

Total full system- $478.92 before shipping

Edited by Barbaric Soul, 16 June 2012 - 12:14 PM.

[Stray Ion]

What about an OS?

[Barbaric Soul]

Windows 8 beta and Linux Ubuntu is free

Edited by Barbaric Soul, 16 June 2012 - 11:26 AM.

[razorkill12]

Barbaric Soul, on 16 June 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

This will give your computer the recommened specs to play MW:O at 1080p according to spec released by the Devs.


CPU- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103943

MB- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128530

RAM- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820178333

Video Card- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127664

$313.96 before shipping

dude you are such a stud for putting this together for people. Great info.

[Bloodshed Romance]

grab a decent low end PSU and your pretty much good to go..
and if your just gonna upgrade your current system to this for the $300 then you already got a hard drive and a psu.. and if you already gotta hard drive you probably already got A OS..

[CynicalCyanide]

While I'm forced to admit that indeed, such a combo would almost definitely run MW:O at a decent setting / fps - I would have to caution people who are considering buying these parts. For one, Tomshardware, a respected hardware review website, had this to say on the 7770 graphics card: "AMD’s new Radeon HD 7770 matches or is just a little bit slower than the 256-bit GeForce GTX 460 1 GB. AMD should probably just be happy that card is quickly disappearing. A 19 month-old product that gives a brand new value-oriented board a run for its money is a little awkward, after all. "

In short, rather than buying the bare minimum to run this game, only to struggle / need an upgrade for when the next game comes out, i would suggest buying a more capable (and better value card) such as the GTX 560 eg: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814130664

Also, that motherboard is really scraping the bottom of the barrel. I understand for most users who would still be reading this thread probably won't be interested in overclocking, but combined with no USB3/HDMI and only 4 USB slots (And apparently it isn't compatible with Linux) - You may want to search for a step up.

Finally, and most importantly - the OP didn't mention anything about power supply issues. I imagine it would be disappointing if you just dropped ~$300 on parts just to find out you don't have enough power to run it (Although, this is only a modest performance & low power build!). Please check the wattage of your existing power supply (If it an OEM / plain non branded PSU, i would assume ~20% less wattage than stated) then check it out along with all the parts you plan to run at on a PSU calculator such as: http://extreme.outer...culatorlite.jsp

Happy gaming!

[Barbaric Soul]

Bloodshed Romance, on 16 June 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

grab a decent low end PSU and your pretty much good to go..
and if your just gonna upgrade your current system to this for the $300 then you already got a hard drive and a psu.. and if you already gotta hard drive you probably already got A OS..

edited my OP to show a full system build

[razorkill12]

I almost bought this case for my build last year : http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811147153

But instead I got this one: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811146062

bottom line is what you are comfortable spending. The OP gave a nice viable upgrade for an aging computer. But as Iron Wolf stated, power supply is very important as well.

[CynicalCyanide]

Barbaric Soul, on 16 June 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:

edited my OP to show a full system build

Well done. But, i would still suggest the $35 upgrade to a 560, and reminding people to check their existing PSU if they decide to stick with their existing one.

[Barbaric Soul]

iron wolf, on 16 June 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

Well done. But, i would still suggest the $35 upgrade to a 560, and reminding people to check their existing PSU if they decide to stick with their existing one.

Thank you. I understand the reasoning behind the GTX560 suggestion, but I'm trying to keep this as low priced as possible and still meet or exceed the Dev's recommended specs. For $125, you simply can not beat the 7770 right now. If people have more money to put towards the budget, everything is upgradable.

razorkill12, on 16 June 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

dude you are such a stud for putting this together for people. Great info.

Thanks. Eh, never had a compliment like that before because of the PC build suggestion. That compliment always came in "other situations", that aren't exactly rated PG13.

Edited by Barbaric Soul, 16 June 2012 - 12:36 PM.

[Meldarth Sunphot]

Nice list OP - with Trinity desktop around the corner - we could be seeing Llano drop in price.......also

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819106002

Is 5 more; the K version that's unlocked for overclocking.......with the same rebate...... that honestly would be worth getting or....

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103994

OEM version; and pick up this heatsink for it......

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835200056

Yea 5 more with this heatsink - but better cooling than stock - better APU and overclocks nicely and or something like this....

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835200056 combo better motherboard and same cpu you started with; 20 cheaper

or.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835200056 ECS isn't bad brand; and is upgrade to MB you put; with the A8 - same price as your mb and cpu; with 10 dollar rebate making it just a hair more if you do rebate.....

Honestly - I'd pick up the cpu/mb combo deal with the rest you put in........and you've got a nice system for awhile.......

[Arzachel]

Argh, so much tech misinformation.

Don't get a Llano, if you're not going to use the iGPU. Don't get the 7700 unless you absolutely have to have a low TDP card.

HD6850, free shipping, 130$ with MIR. Might end soon.
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814102908

i3 2100, free shipping, 119$
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115078

Corsair CX430, free shipping, 45$
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139026

[Barbaric Soul]

Arzachel, on 17 June 2012 - 05:55 AM, said:

Argh, so much tech misinformation.

Don't get a Llano, if you're not going to use the iGPU. Don't get the 7700 unless you absolutely have to have a low TDP card.

HD6850, free shipping, 130$ with MIR. Might end soon.
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814102908

i3 2100, free shipping, 119$
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819115078

Corsair CX430, free shipping, 45$
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139026

That's all fine and dandy and all, but with those changes your suggesting, your increasing the price. For a budget build, that Antec PSU I listed is just as good as that Corsair(yes I know, Corsair sells some of the best PSUs available). It has more wattage and amperage(2 12v rails at 18 amps apeice compared to a single rail at 28 amps), and is $8 less expensive. The $130 6870 is nice, but it's only available until the 16th(oh wait, that was yesterday), and you will still have to put out $150 for it and wait for the mail-in rebate to be sent to you, if you ever get it(plenty of cases where mail-in rebates are not honored by hardware companies). The 7770 I listed is at it's regular price, sales will only make it less expensive. The I3, eh, it's a HT dual core, I listed a actual quad core. HT does not make a dual core perform like a quad core. It just makes it act like a quad. How do you think the 8150 can out perform my 2600k in heavily multi-threaded applications?

Like I already said in this thread, I put together this list together keeping cost as low as possible while still meeting recommended specs.

Edited by Barbaric Soul, 17 June 2012 - 06:33 AM.

[Arzachel]

Barbaric Soul, on 17 June 2012 - 06:19 AM, said:

That's all fine and dandy and all, but with those changes your suggesting, your increasing the price. For a budget build, that Antec PSU I listed is just as good as that Corsair(yes I know, Corsair sells some of the best PSUs available). It has more wattage and amperage(2 12v rails at 18 amps apeice compared to a single rail at 28 amps), and is $8 less expensive. The $130 6870 is nice, but it's only available until the 16th(oh wait, that was yesterday), and you will still have to put out $150 for it and wait for the mail-in rebate to be sent to you, if you ever get it(plenty of cases where mail-in rebates are not honored by hardware companies). The 7770 I listed is at it's regular price, sales will only make it less expensive. The I3, eh, it's a HT dual core, I listed a actual quad core. HT does not make a dual core perform like a quad core. It just makes it act like a quad. How do you think the 8150 can out perform my 2600k in heavily multi-threaded applications?

Like I already said in this thread, I put together this list together keeping cost as low as possible while still meeting recommended specs.

Oh, didn't see you linked an Antec PSU, those are pretty decent. That dual core is faster than the "true quad" you linked in both single and multi threaded applications. If you wanted to go cheaper, you could get a Sandy Bridge Pentium for 63$ that would still be faster than that A6 in both single and multi threaded applications. Use the money saved on a 6850 that's 20% faster than a 7770, or get a 5770/6770 thats a bit slower than the 7770 but cheaper.

[Stray Ion]

Bloodshed Romance, on 16 June 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

grab a decent low end PSU and your pretty much good to go..
and if your just gonna upgrade your current system to this for the $300 then you already got a hard drive and a psu.. and if you already gotta hard drive you probably already got A OS..

If you bought the computer off the shelf, good luck getting your OS to work when replacing the MOBO and CPU, It's now a different computer.

[Barbaric Soul]

Arzachel, on 17 June 2012 - 06:46 AM, said:

If you wanted to go cheaper, you could get a Sandy Bridge Pentium for 63$ that would still be faster than that A6 in both single and multi threaded applications.

That might be something to look into, but personally I'd be alittle leary about buying a dual core right now after what Russ said about dual core performance compared to quad core performance. Maybe they'll get some better optimization to allow better performance with a dual core, then I might be willing to suggest going that route.But even then, I'd still suggest a 4 threaded dual core, then we're back at $20 added to the cost.

[Catamount]

There's something inherent to Cryengine 3 that makes anything but a true quad core perform very badly



Notice how even the old Q6600 there wastes the faster E8500? The Core i3 540 is probably only doing halfway decently because it's hyperthreaded. The engine is 8-core away, seems to only know how to run if it has four threads to make use of, yet seems to get little benefit from anything past four (hence Thuban barely outperforming Deneb).

It's just a funny engine like that.


Note, of course, that that's only for DX9. In DX11, the CPU becomes virtually irrelevant.

Edited by Catamount, 17 June 2012 - 10:45 AM.

[Odins Fist]

That's $496.00 without case..(if you can use your old one) Personally I wouldn't buy an "APU" at the moment. Factor in another $100.00 for an OEM version of Windows 7 64 bit home premium. That would make it around $596.00, "I" think that's a little bit more than a little bit over $300.00, and you could always use the Optical drive from your previous system if it works, but only if it is SATA, because that motherboard doesnt have IDE anywhere on it. I would build an APU based system for a grandmother that played club pogo games though..

Edited by Odins Fist, 17 June 2012 - 11:02 AM.

[Barbaric Soul]

Odins Fist, on 17 June 2012 - 10:58 AM, said:

That's $496.00 without case..(if you can use your old one) Personally I wouldn't buy an "APU" at the moment. Factor in another $100.00 for an OEM version of Windows 7 64 bit home premium. That would make it around $596.00, "I" think that's a little bit more than a little bit over $300.00, and you could always use the Optical drive from your previous system if it works, but only if it is SATA, because that motherboard doesnt have IDE anywhere on it. I would build an APU based system for a grandmother that played club pogo games though..

You really need to learn to read alittle better. The upgrade, which included the APU/FM1 MB/RAM/GPU is just over $300, and that upgrade would make a system that actually exceeds the recommended specs released by the Devs. I said in my OP that the full system build would be just under $478 before shipping, and the DOES include the NZXT Source 210 case. When when working on a extremely limited budget that someone would need to be on to build a system this close to the games specs, the free use of Windows8 BETA makes perfect sence.

Edited by Barbaric Soul, 17 June 2012 - 02:34 PM.

[Belorion]

Barbaric Soul, on 16 June 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

CPU- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103943

Video Card- http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127664

Why are you suggesting a cpu with a graphics processor included, and a video card? I think they could get more cpu for their money.