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[Matthew Ace]

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#Fix old Mechs Ongoing? Currently?

* Tina get me the 5 worst scaled mechs in the game.. Post a thread please! 4 of 5 last retrofits coming July 7th. Only Stalker Remains .. No ETA on him yet

(Credits to Zeece for the Show Notes)

Seems there's hope to this after all. So in your opinion, which 5 mechs make it to the list? I'll probably make a count tally as well (it will only include your top 5).

EDIT: In reality, it's likely we can just name all the Mechs which are badly scaled in Tina's thread, instead of limiting ourselves to our top 5 the way I'm doing this.

I'll go first (edit: not in any order)
1) Awesome
2) Quickdraw
3) DragonTrebuchet
4) Catapult
5) Boy, this is a hard one. Can't make up my mind at this point. Will edit later. Nova

TALLY (updated as at Jun 29 UTC 06.45am, anivron's post (#146))
Awesome: 55
Quickdraw: 68
Dragon: 9
Catapult: 44
Kitfox: 17
Adder: 1
Nova: 40
Centurion: 28
Griffin: 8
Trebuchet: 35
Grasshopper: 26
Shadow Hawk: 11
Stalker: 9
Warhawk: 6
Wolverine: 3
Atlas: 1
Cicada: 3
Timber Wolf: 2
Victor: 5
Commando: 4
Spider: 3
Battlemaster: 1
Vindicator: 6
Locust: 2
Jenner: 1
Maddog: 3
Urbanmech: 2
Stormcrow: 1
Thunderbolt: 2
Panther: 1
Gargoyle: 1
Firestarter: 1
Summoner: 1
Dire Wolf: 1
Zeus: 1
King Crab: 1


Player not counted:
NephyrisX (no clear definition of top 5 among the 6)
kapusta (#86 - you need to pick your top 5)
Rick Shanchez 1895 (#109 - Gargoyle not counted for being 6th)

Edited by Matthew Ace, 28 June 2015 - 10:19 PM.

[FupDup]

Awesome and Quickdraw are the indisputable top picks here, especially the Unawesome.

Catapult is another decent addition to the list.

Dragon could use it too, perhaps this would finally fix its hitboxes issue (thus not needing as severe of weapon quirks...).


For the last one...yeah that is a hard one. Maybe Nova, I dunno? Mad Dog? I would say Warhawk because it's like a Dire Wolf that hasn't hit puberty, but even then it's already effective in some builds so I think it can live with its current size...

[bad arcade kitty]

kit fox, adder

[TyphonCh]

I would like to see the -snip- on that list

Edit: nevermind. This is for rescaling. Thought it was for dynamic weaponry

I want the Nova on there. Way too easy to strip apart given it's size:armor ratio.

Edited by Team Chevy86, 27 June 2015 - 12:43 AM.

[Navid A1]

1- Quickdraw
2- Awesome
3- Centurion
4- Kitfox (its ridiculously huge)
5- Nova (you guys forgetting the nova?)



Where is that thread created by tina, mentioned in the podcast?... does it exist?

Edited by Navid A1, 25 June 2015 - 09:18 PM.

[Impyrium]

I imagine Tina will get around to creating a thread for us to vote in when the time is right.

I'll put mine in just for fun though:

1) Quickdraw
2) Awesome (Though not significantly, it needs to be thinner rather than shorter)
3) Centurion
4) Griffin
5) Trebutchet

[El Bandito]

I'm gonna add Grasshopper as #5. The damn thing is as tall as an Atlas while weighing 30 tons less.

[Matthew Ace]

Navid A1, on 25 June 2015 - 09:00 PM, said:

1- Quickdraw
2- Awesome
3- Centurion
4- Kitfox (its ridiculously huge)
5- maybe dragon



Where is that thread created by tina, mentioned in the podcast?... does it exist?

Not yet, I imagine she'll get around to it very soon.

El Bandito, on 25 June 2015 - 09:03 PM, said:

I'm gonna add Grasshopper as #5. The damn thing is as tall as an Atlas while weighing 30 tons less.

So your first 4 pick will be the same as mine?

FupDup, on 25 June 2015 - 08:57 PM, said:

Awesome and Quickdraw are the indisputable top picks here, especially the Unawesome.

Catapult is another decent addition to the list.

Dragon could use it too, perhaps this would finally fix its hitboxes issue (thus not needing as severe of weapon quirks...).


For the last one...yeah that is a hard one. Maybe Nova, I dunno? Mad Dog? I would say Warhawk because it's like a Dire Wolf that hasn't hit puberty, but even then it's already effective in some builds so I think it can live with its current size...

First 4 picks same as me? Feel free to let me know what's the 5th?

[XX Sulla XX]

Grasshopper<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
I have to think about the other ones.

Edited by XX Sulla XX, 25 June 2015 - 09:10 PM.

[El Bandito]

Matthew Ace, on 25 June 2015 - 09:09 PM, said:

So your first 4 pick will be the same as mine?

Yes, although I might include Trebuchet instead of the Dragon.

[Tennex]

Going to keep it within the medium mech chassis. TO really star reignign it in where its worse.

1. Centurion
2. Trebuchet
3. Griffin
4. Shadow Hawk
5. Nova

Edited by Tennex, 26 June 2015 - 02:47 PM.

[Cyborne Elemental]

1.Nova
2.Quickdraw
4.Kitfox
3.Griffin
4.Catapult
5.Centurion
(runners up)
6.Kintaro
7.Awesome
8.Trebuchet

[Navy Sixes]

I go on and on like a broken record about scale (but hey, you brought it up!). Your top five look about right, but I would rank the Catapult higher, and I would include the Stalker, which is really too small for an assault.

My grief with scale goes way beyond a "top five." No medium should be scaled larger than the smallest heavy. No heavy should be scaled larger than the smallest assault. I think PGI misunderstood the balancing mechanisms at play regarding scale. Imagine how the game would play if mediums were scaled more like bulky lights than skinny assaults.

There was talk a while ago about a "scale pass" from the devs, but like talk about a real skill tree, it quietly evaporated. I guess the ability to fix scale is programming "lostech" at PGI.

[MoonUnitBeta]

nova?

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Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 27 June 2015 - 02:43 AM.

[Navid A1]

MoonUnitBeta, on 25 June 2015 - 09:18 PM, said:

nova?

yeah...everyone is forgetting the worst offender it seems.

[The Mechromancer]

Awesome
Nova
WARHAWK
QuickDraw

Don't forget the Dire-hawk people!

Edited by The Mechromancer, 25 June 2015 - 09:28 PM.

[Johnny Z]

No kidding, the Wolverine, its a giant cant miss square block while its counter part the Storm Crow is a stick figure.....No kidding someone in a match said my Wolverine had canckles.(spelled right?)

+1 for Wolverine weight reduction.

[Lugin]

1. Quickdraw
2. Awesome
3. Catapult
4. Centurion
5. Grasshopper

Just the ones that instantly come to mind.
The Nova's fine for scale, imo, just needs to have its stance lowered.

[stjobe]

I'll just leave this link here and quietly note that the date on it is June 21, 2013.

Centurion, Trebuchet, Catapult, Stalker. And Quickdraw.

There's my top 5.

[Navid A1]

Lugin, on 25 June 2015 - 09:36 PM, said:

...
The Nova's fine for scale, imo, just needs to have its stance lowered.

Nova is low enough... its so frikin HUGE.... and WIDE.