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#1 Too Much Love

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 12:42 AM

As for 30 of June, there are 1898 pages on the leaderboard site, 37978 people played.

Does it mean that the people on the 949 page represent "Average Joe"? (correct me, if i'm wrong). Actually, it represents "Median Joe".

If we accept this theory, then the median KDR today is 0.80.

Median Win Loss ratio is 1.0.

Median Match Score is 180.

Median Games played is 21.

Edited: changed "average" to "median".

Edited by drunkblackstar, 30 June 2016 - 04:43 AM.


#2 El Bandito

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 12:47 AM

View Postdrunkblackstar, on 30 June 2016 - 12:42 AM, said:

As for 30 of June, there are 1898 pages on the leaderboard site, 37978 people played.

Does it mean that the people on the 949 page represent "Average Joe"? (correct me, if i'm wrong).

If we accept this theory, then the average KDR today is 0.80.

Average Win Loss ratio is 1.0.


That's... pretty average. ;)

#3 Random Carnage

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 12:49 AM

That would be the median wouldn't it, rather than the mean?

#4 kesmai

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 12:53 AM

ATM i would prefer the Mediterranean...

But hey. Wait.
37000 players logged in and played a qp match since last Tuesday?
Definitely this game is dying...

Edited by ARP Haruna, 30 June 2016 - 12:56 AM.


#5 STEF_

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 01:00 AM

View PostARP Haruna, on 30 June 2016 - 12:53 AM, said:

ATM i would prefer the Mediterranean...

But hey. Wait.
37000 players logged in and played a qp match since last Tuesday?
Definitely this game is dying...

I wonder why I had to wait 10-15 minutes in group que yesterday.....
And when we dropped we met always the same faces....

How's that?

#6 DovisKhan

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 01:01 AM

View PostARP Haruna, on 30 June 2016 - 12:53 AM, said:

ATM i would prefer the Mediterranean...

But hey. Wait.
37000 players logged in and played a qp match since last Tuesday?
Definitely this game is dying...


Not really, you get a QM fairly quick any time of the day (1-2 minutes), quicker than in most successful mobas

Edited by DovisKhan, 30 June 2016 - 01:01 AM.


#7 Lily from animove

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 01:16 AM

View Postdrunkblackstar, on 30 June 2016 - 12:42 AM, said:

As for 30 of June, there are 1898 pages on the leaderboard site, 37978 people played.

Does it mean that the people on the 949 page represent "Average Joe"? (correct me, if i'm wrong).

If we accept this theory, then the average KDR today is 0.80.

Average Win Loss ratio is 1.0.

Average Match Score is 180.

Average Games played is 21.


mostlikely possible, given that every kill also includes someone gettign killed the average K/D must eb 1, yet you have to distract suicuides by whatever reason and tk's since they don't go into the kills.


View PostStefka Kerensky, on 30 June 2016 - 01:00 AM, said:

I wonder why I had to wait 10-15 minutes in group que yesterday.....
And when we dropped we met always the same faces....

How's that?



daytime is important, serverchoice too and also, queue-memebers, when 400 people are online yet most are in matches and you exit your match and everoyne or nearly all of those ready up again, then chances is high you see them again and again and again.

generally around midday in EU with all servers on, I get a LOT oceanic matches yet they come fast. Juts have to dela with the worse atency but It seems to work for me.

Edited by Lily from animove, 30 June 2016 - 01:19 AM.


#8 Karl Marlow

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 01:28 AM

View PostStefka Kerensky, on 30 June 2016 - 01:00 AM, said:

I wonder why I had to wait 10-15 minutes in group que yesterday.....
And when we dropped we met always the same faces....

How's that?

I seem to have found the problem.

#9 STEF_

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 01:57 AM

View PostThomasMarik, on 30 June 2016 - 01:28 AM, said:

I seem to have found the problem.

mmmm...I can see an issue here.

95% dropping solo/5% in group?

#10 Paigan

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 02:19 AM

View Postdrunkblackstar, on 30 June 2016 - 12:42 AM, said:

As for 30 of June, there are 1898 pages on the leaderboard site, 37978 people played.

Does it mean that the people on the 949 page represent "Average Joe"? (correct me, if i'm wrong).

If we accept this theory, then the average KDR today is 0.80.

Average Win Loss ratio is 1.0.

Average Match Score is 180.

Average Games played is 21.

I'd say there has to be a minimum number of matches played before one enters the leader board.
Like at least 20 games or so (more like 100 for my taste to get at least a slight statistical significance).

For example:
Last I checked, there was a guy with 10 games or so, 40 kills and 0 deaths.
Of course he led the board with a KDR of 40.0, but that's not really his actual (overall) performance, it's just a statistical anomaly.
Maybe he even staged it, IDK.

Or consider the numerous cases of 1 match played, 0 kills, 1 death. It's not really a skill of "0", it's just insignificantly low data for one player.


If you want a real impression of the average pilot, you have to filter out all the insignificant and thus falsifying entries in the board.

Edited by Paigan, 30 June 2016 - 02:22 AM.


#11 Thorqemada

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 02:22 AM

Groupdata must be crazy.

While W/L should be ~1 so far i expect K/D be lower as the Pilots with better Mechkill ability will rack up kills (i wiitness in many matches that 3 or 4 Pilots kill most of the enemy).

#12 627

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 02:22 AM

avg K/D has to be below 1 because teamkills and suicides for whatever reason.

Even avg Win/loss should be smaller than 1 because ties don't count but maybe they don't count at all.

Given the top players get way more kills than deaths, some have 6-8 consistently I think .80 is a good average for the normal players, everything around 1 should tell you your tier is right I think.

#13 Too Much Love

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 04:07 AM

Btw, do they recount Leaderboard stats on regular basis?

And where the PGI post, explaining the how it works?

#14 Malachy Karrde

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 04:19 AM

The leader board doesn't seem to count every match. I played 119 matches this week and 174 since the feature went live. I've got maybe 40 reported.

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 05:44 AM

View Post627, on 30 June 2016 - 02:22 AM, said:

avg K/D has to be below 1 because teamkills and suicides for whatever reason.

Even avg Win/loss should be smaller than 1 because ties don't count but maybe they don't count at all.


Ties do not count toward w/l at all, so 1.0 is absolutely average. KDR is obviously lower than 1, although i dont know by how much. Personally i would say if your w/l is between 0.9 and 1.1 your doing ok.

For all other stats you have to know how someone plays to be able to interpret them. I had a game a few days ago where i killed a Cheetah with Spider-5k, did 82 damage, got a matchscore below 100 and still called it a good game. I'm pretty sure farming damage on heavies and assaults would have got me much better stats, but i like duels and if i can get one with at least a small chance of winning, i usually take it.

Edited by Baelfire, 30 June 2016 - 05:46 AM.


#16 Lily from animove

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 06:29 AM

View Post627, on 30 June 2016 - 02:22 AM, said:

avg K/D has to be below 1 because teamkills and suicides for whatever reason.

Even avg Win/loss should be smaller than 1 because ties don't count but maybe they don't count at all.

Given the top players get way more kills than deaths, some have 6-8 consistently I think .80 is a good average for the normal players, everything around 1 should tell you your tier is right I think.


don't forget OP turrets and dropships.

A tie does not count as a win, nor as a loss, therefore W/L should be accurate, however we should find people with more games played than wins+losses they have

edit: found one, hammerCole for example ahs 9 wins, 1 loss but 11 matches played so one was a tie.

Edited by Lily from animove, 30 June 2016 - 06:31 AM.


#17 Cy Mitchell

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 06:42 AM

38,000 since June 21st? I guess the game is not quite as dead as some would have us believe. No, it is not CoD, CS or OW but for a Mech game that is not a terribly bad number.

#18 CK16

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 07:07 AM

I gave up seriously caring about K/D ratio after I graduated high school, gaming life alot less stressed, and usually more pleasant times since.

Edited by CK16, 30 June 2016 - 07:09 AM.


#19 TLBFestus

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 10:23 AM

Frikin' EH!!

I'm slightly better than median!!!

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#20 Yellonet

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 10:29 AM

I had abysmal kdr when I was new to the game, something like 0.25 Posted Image But just recently I passed 1 and now have 1.04, I feel good Posted Image

Edited by Yellonet, 30 June 2016 - 10:29 AM.






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