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[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Its based around 30 dmg right?

Wonder how many stock mechs can alpha higher than that and then wont be able to fire all their weapons without this new convoluted mechanic messing them up?

Boar's head for one

[DjPush]

Oh boy! It's another ED thread!

[kesmai]

For a turn of events we could have a thread about enregy draw.

[dervishx5]

Does the world need another Energy Draw thread?

The answer is an emphatic YES

[El Bandito]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 29 August 2016 - 07:30 AM, said:

Its based around 30 dmg right?

Wonder how many stock mechs can alpha higher than that and then wont be able to fire all their weapons without this new convoluted mechanic messing them up?

Boar's head for one

What does stock loadout has to do with alpha limit anyway? People can still chain fire it. Direwhale-Prime couldn't alpha without severely overheating even before ED. And don't even get me started on Nova-Prime.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

So could we talk about the subject of the thread instead of ... this?

El Bandito, on 29 August 2016 - 07:44 AM, said:

What does stock loadout has to do with alpha limit anyway? People can still chain fire it. Direwhale-Prime couldn't alpha without severely overheating even before ED. And don't even get me started on Nova-Prime.

yeah I sold all my novas since I just couldnt work with it at all. Some mechs just shouldnt be put intoi this game lol

[dervishx5]

Creating redundant threads is a violation of the CoC.

(You should change the title to something about ED and stock mechs).

Edited by dervishx5, 29 August 2016 - 07:50 AM.

[Spheroid]

Tell me again how a Boar's Head is immune to energy draw. Any loadout that didn't "mess it up" would be garbage and not fielded anyway.

[El Bandito]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 29 August 2016 - 07:45 AM, said:

yeah I sold all my novas since I just couldnt work with it at all. Some mechs just shouldnt be put intoi this game lol

On release, yes, but after bunch of quirks and the size reduction, loadout such as 10 CSPL Nova is pretty decent now.

[Kin3ticX]

it wont make it to live build, its too dumb, it has infotech stank all over it

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

dervishx5, on 29 August 2016 - 07:47 AM, said:

Creating redundant threads is a violation of the CoC.

(You should change the title to something about ED and stock mechs).

so is armchair moderating and nonconstructive comments

Kin3ticX, on 29 August 2016 - 07:58 AM, said:

it wont make it to live build, its too dumb, it has infotech stank all over it

if it does you can bet it wont be changed a whit from the test server

[dervishx5]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 29 August 2016 - 08:18 AM, said:

so is armchair moderating and nonconstructive comments

You have me there, but as a Liao says: two Wongs don't make a right.

I suppose instead of offering advice to help you avoid those nasty CoC violations I can just hit the report button.

Edited by dervishx5, 29 August 2016 - 08:28 AM.

[Novakaine]

Hyperbole much better than salt yum.

Edited by Novakaine, 29 August 2016 - 08:38 AM.

[RestosIII]

El Bandito, on 29 August 2016 - 07:44 AM, said:

What does stock loadout has to do with alpha limit anyway? People can still chain fire it. Direwhale-Prime couldn't alpha without severely overheating even before ED. And don't even get me started on Nova-Prime.

Hello, I'm a Nova Prime lore build user. With ED, I can't fire half of my weapons without going over the ED limit. I'm also a Mad Dog Prime lore build user. With ED, I can't fire my lasers without going over the ED limit. Yes, a Mad Dog firing 4 lasers technically goes over the limit. This is why Spooky Energy is a problem for me.

[TexAce]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 29 August 2016 - 07:45 AM, said:

So could we talk about the subject of the thread instead of ... this?



yeah I sold all my novas since I just couldnt work with it at all. Some mechs just shouldnt be put intoi this game lol

Or some should learn to not use the alpha as their main shooting tactic.....?

Alphas were very risky in lore and should be used with caution. But MWO wannabe leets think otherwise and if its not like they want, the game's mechanics are wrong.....sure right.....

[Johnny Z]

RestosIII, on 29 August 2016 - 08:47 AM, said:

Hello, I'm a Nova Prime lore build user. With ED, I can't fire half of my weapons without going over the ED limit. I'm also a Mad Dog Prime lore build user. With ED, I can't fire my lasers without going over the ED limit. Yes, a Mad Dog firing 4 lasers technically goes over the limit. This is why Spooky Energy is a problem for me.

Oh? Please quote in lore where it says that using all the weapons at once is "Lore". Thanks.

If you cant then be quiet.

[Kin3ticX]

RestosIII, on 29 August 2016 - 08:47 AM, said:

This is why Spooky Energy is a problem for me.

ED is neither live nor dead and is quantum entangled every other dumb idea

Spooky Energy at a Distance

[Khobai]

energy draw isnt gonna fix anything

because even 30 damage is gonna lead to getting instakilled when you have 12v12

the problem is all the focus fire that was added in 12v12, thats what made TTK plummet

the current levels of armor/structure cant handle the damage you take in 12v12

we need to go back to 8v8 so theres less focus fire going around

Edited by Khobai, 29 August 2016 - 09:10 AM.

[RestosIII]

Johnny Z, on 29 August 2016 - 08:50 AM, said:

Oh? Please quote in lore where it says that using all the weapons at once is "Lore". Thanks.

If you cant then be quiet.

Please tell me where I said "All weapons". Thanks.

If you can't, then be quiet.

[Malcolm Vordermark]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 29 August 2016 - 07:30 AM, said:

Its based around 30 dmg right?

Not really. It started where damage to energy was 1:1 in most cases. Now pretty much only lasers are 1:1.