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[zverofaust]

TAG + Clan no-minimum-range LRMs. Maybe on something with ECM.

Edited by zverofaust, 21 February 2013 - 02:21 PM.

[Redshift2k5]

Triple Clan Ultra AC-20

[Norris J Packard]

Redshift2k5, on 21 February 2013 - 02:26 PM, said:

Triple Clan Ultra AC-20

This.

There is going to be absolutely no way to counter that kind of raw power. Even with absolutely absurd CD's and extremely high jamming rates, all you need to do is get off one Alpha Strike and everything is dead.

[Pyrrho]

Wouldn't a 6 C-ER-PPC Stalker contend with both of those?

[zverofaust]

Norris J Packard, on 21 February 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

This.

There is going to be absolutely no way to counter that kind of raw power. Even with absolutely absurd CD's and extremely high jamming rates, all you need to do is get off one Alpha Strike and everything is dead.

O *** I didn't even think of that.

Hunchback IICs with dual UAC/20s four-shooting errthang.

[xMEPHISTOx]

Ahhh UAC20's would be quite nice.
If we be dreaming how bout lbx20's and ssrm6's. nom nom nom.

[Norris J Packard]

Pyrrho, on 21 February 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

Wouldn't a 6 C-ER-PPC Stalker contend with both of those?

Way easier to boat three UAC/20's since they use up a lot less crit slots for the same tonnage.

Plus double tap.

[Nathan Foxbane]

Pyrrho, on 21 February 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

Wouldn't a 6 C-ER-PPC Stalker contend with both of those?

Because you can put 4 on a Warhawk and proceed to laugh maniacally as your TARGETING COMPUTER gives crazy accuracy.

[Zerstorer Stallin]

6x SSRM 6 cats, 6 CERPPC stalkers, and x4 Clan LRM20's

[Adridos]

And then they announce Clan weapons won't be available on IS mechs for balance reasons...

That's my prediction.

I mean, imagine XL engines that don't blow up when side torso is destoroyed (yes, they do blow up when both are, but every mech except for zombies has nothing to loose, anway), LRMs with no minimal range, DHS that only take 2 crits and possibly dissipate more and et cetera.

Edited by Adridos, 21 February 2013 - 03:08 PM.

[Zerstorer Stallin]

Adridos, on 21 February 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

And then they announce Clan weapons won't be available on IS mechs for balance reasons...

That's my prediction.

possible, just means then you'll see the end of IS mechs as well.

[Vassago Rain]

Adridos, on 21 February 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

And then they announce Clan weapons won't be available on IS mechs for balance reasons...

That's my prediction.

Then we won't play with the Is mechs they put over a year of work into.
But if we get to mixtech, then clan mechs with their fixed armor values won't be used.
So they need a kind of middle ground.

[Norris J Packard]

Zerstorer Stallin, on 21 February 2013 - 03:06 PM, said:

possible, just means then you'll see the end of IS mechs as well.

Not really.

Assuming that each Clan Mechs occupies two drop slots, then there is still a considerable number of reasons as to why you wouldn't stack Clan Mechs.

[Zerstorer Stallin]

Norris J Packard, on 21 February 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

Not really.

Assuming that each Clan Mechs occupies two drop slots, then there is still a considerable number of reasons as to why you wouldn't stack Clan Mechs.

it be more like a star of clan meks against 12 or more IS mechs.

[Kobold]

Zerstorer Stallin, on 21 February 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

it be more like a star of clan meks against 12 or more IS mechs.

Some variation on this seems most likely. Once Community Warfare is in play, I'm not sure why people think clan mechs will show up on inner sphere teams.

[Norris J Packard]

Zerstorer Stallin, on 21 February 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

it be more like a star of clan meks against 12 or more IS mechs.

They aren't going to split the community, so toss that idea out of the equation immediately.

Oh sure, I have no doubt that they'll introduce Clan accounts with certain perks related to Clan Mechs and so on. They'll probably even put in a Clan Mech vs IS Mech gametype but they will not split the community. If you have to force players to choose between playing with their friends or playing with the Mad Cat, they are going to be in an extremely bad mood.

Thus in all likelihood for IS players, an OmniMech will simply occupy two drop slots.

Kobold, on 21 February 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

Some variation on this seems most likely. Once Community Warfare is in play, I'm not sure why people think clan mechs will show up on inner sphere teams.

Because the Devs aren't stupid.

[Chemistry Warden]

zverofaust, on 21 February 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

O *** I didn't even think of that.

Hunchback IICs with dual UAC/20s four-shooting errthang.

Wouldn't that be really slow, for a medium?
24t just on the UAC 20's, and then more for ammo.

[DeadlyNerd]

This is where 12v12 comes into the equation. For every IS mech a 3xCUAC/20 kills, there'll be 2 more that are pounding at its back, since there'll prolly be a 1:3 clan vs IS ratio.

[Larth]

I keep having this feeling that Clans for the first bit are going to be like NPC's. Drop into a match fighting each other and then suddenly 4 mechs come out of nowhere and start slaughtering both sides. Be amusing to think your chasing a Catapult, finally round the corner and realize the Cat has arms...it's a different kitty, a more painful kitty.

[Adridos]

Norris J Packard, on 21 February 2013 - 03:15 PM, said:

They aren't going to split the community, so toss that idea out of the equation immediately.

IDK, they are pretty confident with making statements out pals from the other side will get to play as their precious Clans.