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[BirdToes]

• Me and a teammate can work you over with lasers for almost a minute, but you still only show yellow armor damage.
  
• My own personal "I Win" button: my SSRM2s, don't work on you.
  
• You are the first to post "gg" after a match.

[Jacmac]

If you can't beat them, join them. You will learn that they aren't so invulnerable.

[One Medic Army]

No, they kinda are, unless you're matched up against multiple enemy 3Ls.

Unless they run away from me and let me shoot their rear or shut down in front of me, they routinely take like 4-5x the amount of laser fire to bring down as a Jenner.

Edited by One Medic Army, 25 February 2013 - 01:59 PM.

[Jacmac]

Well all I can say is that I don't find myself feeling invulnerable in my Raven 2L and I don't find them all that difficult to leg with enough lasers.

[Sug]

One Medic Army, on 25 February 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

Unless they run away from me and let me shoot their rear or shut down in front of me, they routinely take like 4-5x the amount of laser fire to bring down as a Jenner.

Pretty much this. I don't have issues with any other light mech.


Regarding shutting down in front of me: Went for the legs of a shutdown Raven in front of me and both my ppcs went between his damn skinny bird legs.

Edited by Sug, 25 February 2013 - 02:11 PM.

[One Medic Army]

Jacmac, on 25 February 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

Well all I can say is that I don't find myself feeling invulnerable in my Raven 2L and I don't find them all that difficult to leg with enough lasers.

Legs are about the only thing I can reliably hit on a Raven.
Shame there's 2 of them and each one needs 48 points of damage to take out.
With the firepower required to double-leg a Raven I can strip the side torso off of an Atlas, and the Atlas is easier to hit.

[Khobai]

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If you can't beat them, join them. You will learn that they aren't so invulnerable.

No theyre not invulnerable. But they do take inordinate amounts of firepower to kill. Atlases are easier to kil and thats wrong on so many levels. Atlases should be the best tanks in the game not Raven-3Ls.

[BigJim]

Sug, on 25 February 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

Went for the legs of a shutdown Raven in front of me and both my ppcs went between his damn skinny bird legs.

Aw!

I hate Ravens but come on, that's pretty funny.

[Catalinasgrace]

If you took the ssrms away from the raven only the better pilots could play them... As it is now those make the mech easy mode win for anyone... I especially love the part when I'm chasing one in a spider and there is nothing they can do about it. So they turn all the way around fire their ssrm2's at me and SOMEHOW they hit my rear instead of my front and kill me within 2-3 shots... That is the best EVER... lol... Lag shield is another thing, I can blast 10+ shots into their rear torsos or rear center and no damage is accounted for, perhaps maybe yellow... The same amount of shots on any other mech besides the commando will have been cored without a problem...

Edited by Catalinasgrace, 25 February 2013 - 03:02 PM.

[One Medic Army]

I made a 7M Treb to hunt down and kill Ravens:
ERPPC
3x SSRM
XL325 engine
5xJJ

Ran into 2 3Ls working together, splashed ERPPC bolts into the torso of one of them (since 2 ECM means no lock-ons) and I ended up legging him... Killing both legs, with a single ERPPC, while aiming at the torso for the majority of it.
That right there tells you the hitboxes are wonky.

[Catalinasgrace]

I'm actually at the point that I wish they would take ssrms away from lights... Make them have to aim and have a bit of skill... Sure let them keep missile hard points but use srms instead... I do not use streaks on any mech I have and I think Raven pilots who rely so much on ssrms are pansies... lol... Just sayin...

[FrostCollar]

Catalinasgrace, on 25 February 2013 - 03:06 PM, said:

I'm actually at the point that I wish they would take ssrms away from lights... Make them have to aim and have a bit of skill... Sure let them keep missile hard points but use srms instead... I do not use streaks on any mech I have and I think Raven pilots who rely so much on ssrms are pansies... lol... Just sayin...

No. This idea just perpetuates the flawed reasoning that I suspect was behind the initial implementation of ECM.

"Problem: Streakcats are overpowered and Jenners dominate light fights. Solution: add ECM that prevents effective use of streaks except by ECM carriers."

Like then, your idea ignores the fundamental issue: streaks are pretty broken right now.

[The Warspite]

I need the 3L's to be in the game, I hate them too, but I love the feeling you get after dropping one with a well aimed AC/20 shot.

[JohnnyC]

Popping a 3L with a quad PPC alpha is particularly satisfying... I can say that much.

The Raven 3L is easily the mech I dislike more than any other. Coming in a close second would be a Catapult A1 with 6 SRM6 (AKA Splatcat).

[Kenyon Burguess]

The Warspite, on 25 February 2013 - 03:29 PM, said:

I need the 3L's to be in the game, I hate them too, but I love the feeling you get after dropping one with a well aimed AC/20 shot.

that's weird. I keep hitting them in the torso and they don't seem to care if its an ac/20 or not.

[Demoned]

Catalinasgrace, on 25 February 2013 - 03:06 PM, said:

I'm actually at the point that I wish they would take ssrms away from lights... Make them have to aim and have a bit of skill... Sure let them keep missile hard points but use srms instead... I do not use streaks on any mech I have and I think Raven pilots who rely so much on ssrms are pansies... lol... Just sayin...

be careful what you wish for lol

if they go the way of the jenner and start lerning to aim, then stack up on SRM4's,
now that would be deadly.

as they find out regularly when they come across me in my jenner and, get a face full of 2x SRM4s
if they don't think "**** I'm outta here" they die in the next few seconds


i say let the noobs keep their SSrm and, let the pros show them how its really done.

[Fiachdubh]

Don't listen to them little Raven 3L, I love you and all your murderous variants!!

I do not and never have used streaks on my Ravens or any other mech. Streaks are for lazy people who trade manly damage srm6 missiles for little girly in game aimbot missiles.

Edited by Fiachdubh, 25 February 2013 - 03:57 PM.

[Demoned]

Fiachdubh, on 25 February 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

Don't listen to them little Raven 3L, I love you and all your murderous variants!!

I do not and never have used streaks on my Ravens or any other mech. Streaks are for lazy people who trade manly damage srm6 missiles for little girly in game aimbot missiles.

this man i would fear meeting in my Jenner

[Oy of MidWorld]

I actually dislike that EVERY 3L has 3 MLAS and 2 SSRMS.

I have one that goes 110 kph, with two medium and one large pulse lasers. It takes a little more care, aiming and situational awereness. I use it as a scout, but it can defend itself. I once considered building the usual variant in a weak moment. But then i realized i'd feel ashamed piloting it.

Everyone in our lance has one of my builds, so we can take turns counter ECM'ing.

Edited by Oy of MidWorld, 25 February 2013 - 04:07 PM.

[Fiachdubh]

Demoned, on 25 February 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

this man i would fear meeting in my Jenner

Oh I fear the Jenner, when in my Hunchies I fear all lights, the 3L is far from the most dangerous damage inflicting wise

Oy of MidWorld, on 25 February 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

I actually dislike that EVERY 3L has 3 MLAS and 2 SSRMS.

I have one that goes 110 kph, with two medium and one large pulse lasers. It takes a little more care, aiming and situational awereness. I use it as a scout, but it can defend itself. I once considered building the usual variant in a weak moment. But then i realized i'd feel ashamed piloting it.

Everyone in our lance has one of my builds, so we can take turns counter ECM'ing.

My Ravens are 100% streak free.