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[Yokaiko]

John MatriX82, on 28 February 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

The Ilya is close to that.. but devs limited it with no 4th laser in the ballistics only arm, otherwise it would have been the best or near-to-be the best CTF. Flame is good for Dragon lovers too, but they limited its CT missile launcher to 4 tubes and it's not much different from what you can do with a regular 1C (I don't consider the ability an AC 20 as a plus, you have to go around too slow with one for my tastes).

I have a ball with my AC20/x4mlas Flame. It goes 89kph and hit like a whackapult, and nearly as accurate.

[Chrithu]

Aym, on 28 February 2013 - 06:25 AM, said:

Would be pretty rad to have 4 Mlas and 2 SRM 6 launchers blasting a stream of 2x2 SRM's at a time, both weapons having similar time on target and range...

Oh you're right I haven't thought about trhe missile shooting pattern yet. For 2 SRM 6 it would be 3x4 missiles. would spread that 30 damge quite a lot I guess. Especially if you do it in a fly by shooting. Have to test that. On the other hand a build using 4 ML in addition wouldn't go all that fast. I can see alot of testing goind in that mech. I hope it won't be too expensive in price.

[Ngamok]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 27 February 2013 - 07:58 PM, said:

but if it is they at least got that pay to win thing up front while it was still beta and I havent dropped more than what I payed to get in for it on this game.
Id say its a good thing.



pay to get a ecm equippes missile mech that you can only get with real money? right TOTALLY not right.


AT ALL



there is already a cicada with ecm and missiles ... in the game?

You have a source that this has ECM? Link please.

[Yokaiko]

Ngamok, on 28 February 2013 - 07:15 AM, said:

You have a source that this has ECM? Link please.

Its based on speculating regarding the missile tubes, PGI hasn't said boo.

[Ngamok]

Hammer Hands, on 27 February 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

Glad someone else also noticed the tiny energy lens on the center torso. Possible they are left and right, but they look like small laser lens like on some other mechs. Extremely small points for energy weapons, and I must agree, something seems off with the look of those 'missile' tubes.

Go look at the other ones. Those two tiny red lens are on the others that do not have a CT Energy slot.

Elizander, on 27 February 2013 - 09:33 PM, said:

I just wonder why the Hero mech name is like a regular variant. Not so hero-ish.

It's because there is no real Cicada Hero pilot or version. They had to make one up.

Chunkylad, on 27 February 2013 - 09:52 PM, said:

No satisfaction for anyone.... If it gets missiles, instantly pay to win. If it doesn't, useless variant. You don't HAVE to buy it, if you don't like it don't get it. I for one am for I am a Cicada fan.

So how is it pay to win? How does this win over.......... fill in the blank. Suddenly this thing is gonna own everything.

[Yokaiko]

Franchi, on 28 February 2013 - 06:59 AM, said:

They may as well be versus any other light without ECM

This is debatable. If you are fast enough to turn with them you can actually stomp a raven if you have more firepower.

...of course that is a big if. Basically the Jenner-F is the only mech that can do that, or a Cicada -2A or -2B but it requires having the jump, the -3M will often lose because if its fast enough, it doesn't have the weapons, and if you use the ballistic, you basically don't have a chance you are too slow.

[John MatriX82]

Yokaiko, on 28 February 2013 - 07:12 AM, said:

I have a ball with my AC20/x4mlas Flame. It goes 89kph and hit like a whackapult, and nearly as accurate.

I know, but everytime I think of that build I end up saying "it's the same like my HBK 4H" and so I've not bougth it yet

Jason Parker, on 28 February 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

Oh you're right I haven't thought about trhe missile shooting pattern yet. For 2 SRM 6 it would be 3x4 missiles. would spread that 30 damge quite a lot I guess. Especially if you do it in a fly by shooting. Have to test that. On the other hand a build using 4 ML in addition wouldn't go all that fast. I can see alot of testing goind in that mech. I hope it won't be too expensive in price.

Yep, but this cicada with 4 ML, xl 300, ENDO, FF, dual SRM4+2 Ton and 15 DHS.. it could be quite a nice striker.

Consider that I love the AWS 9M with dual SRM4s (one in the CT and one in the arm) right because the 2x2 shooting pattern allows them to stay concentrated and it's very useful against large or stationary targets. I've tried SRM6's but they all tend to spread fairly more than 4's and you need to stay on the target longer to place them all, and the longer recycle time doesn't help either.

Edited by John MatriX82, 28 February 2013 - 07:29 AM.

[Yokaiko]

John MatriX82, on 28 February 2013 - 07:27 AM, said:

I know, but everytime I think of that build I end up saying "it's the same like my HBK 4H" and so I've not bougth it yet

It basically is.

The 4 arm mounted Mlas are no laughing matter though.

[Ngamok]

Liberty, on 28 February 2013 - 06:24 AM, said:

My prediction is 6E and 2M hardpoints. 4 Medium Lasers 2 Small Lasers and 2 SRM2 Launchers. No ECM and No JumpJets. This will be the stock version as I am sure players will upgrade the standard SRM2 Launchers to Streaks.

It can't have 8 hard points. Other Cicadas have 5 and 6.

[xNightAngelx]

Lonestar1771, on 27 February 2013 - 04:53 PM, said:

Just what no one wanted, yay...

I wanted it, I love my CDA.

[Ngamok]

Lord Psycho, on 28 February 2013 - 06:48 AM, said:

On second thought...i'd be more concerend..when ...they...release the RAVEN hero mech........

Why? Do you think they'd put ECM on it and make it 2 Energy and 3 Missles or something? With MASC?

[JudgeDeathCZ]

JG52Krupi, on 27 February 2013 - 12:28 PM, said:

Cicada without ECM is basically dead already

same as Death's Knell...and still we've got that crappy Commando

[Ngamok]

QuantumButler, on 28 February 2013 - 06:50 AM, said:

Oh boy, yet another mech no one wants to buy.

Come on PGI, if you had Hero Trenchbuckets or Atlases I'd maybe buy one, just give me something that I want, not last year's model, fit only for the scrap heap.

I think enough people will buy this (me included) just because of Garth. They'll make the money that they paid the art department for the paintjob and it'll go towards the April Hero Mech.

[John MatriX82]

Ngamok, on 28 February 2013 - 07:31 AM, said:

It can't have 8 hard points. Other Cicadas have 5 and 6.

Yep, we just have to see if this thing bears the 4th energy in the other arm (you can't see it in that pic, but it's reasonable to think it will have an energy hp there as well).

[Franchi]

John MatriX82, on 28 February 2013 - 07:37 AM, said:

Yep, we just have to see if this thing bears the 4th energy in the other arm (you can't see it in that pic, but it's reasonable to think it will have an energy hp there as well).

Actually by checking the other cicada models against this one you can see that it does have a hard point structure there if it was just the arm structure it wouldn't stick that far out.

Edited by Franchi, 28 February 2013 - 07:39 AM.

[Burning Chrome]

Feh, lame.

Assuming it has missiles...so much for canon.

Could care less what Garth wants or thinks is "cool".

Had a feeling this herp-derp crap was going to happen.

At least the Muromets and Death Knell were somewhat believable and didn't stray too far from the original design. (though a missile-less Commando is odd.)

So what's Randal's excuse...er...fluff going to be for this one?

Lame.

I like the Cicada variants as they are. Maybe it should've been a 3C with ECM (as much as I hate to even suggest using ECM on anything) and with a bigger engine cap for the Hero...since every mech will have one apparently.

HBK-4N would've been a better choice IMO.

Lame.

Edited by Burning Chrome, 28 February 2013 - 07:48 AM.

[Grey Man]

Jason Parker, on 28 February 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

Oh you're right I haven't thought about trhe missile shooting pattern yet. For 2 SRM 6 it would be 3x4 missiles. would spread that 30 damge quite a lot I guess. Especially if you do it in a fly by shooting. Have to test that. On the other hand a build using 4 ML in addition wouldn't go all that fast. I can see alot of testing goind in that mech. I hope it won't be too expensive in price.

If you want to test the SRM6 out of a two tube slot pick up a TBT-7K. The right arm is a SSRM laumcher with 2 tubes. 2 SRM6 is... interesting. Not sure I would call it effective though.

[FupDup]

John MatriX82, on 28 February 2013 - 07:37 AM, said:

Yep, we just have to see if this thing bears the 4th energy in the other arm (you can't see it in that pic, but it's reasonable to think it will have an energy hp there as well).

Actually you CAN see it if you look super closely. Look in the upper-left corner of the left Missile Pod (from the Cicada's point of view). You can see a sliver of the upper part of the laser mount there.

Edited by FupDup, 28 February 2013 - 07:45 AM.

[Ngamok]

Triggerhippy, on 28 February 2013 - 07:11 AM, said:

AC20 Kat to the rescue - I have popped loads of ravens with a twin burst of 20's love watching them fly apart! Ravens are a pain but far from unstoppable if you have the skills and right kit to hand.

I killed a Cicada once and it literally flew 150+ meters when the ammo in the legs exploded. Was funny to see.

Yokaiko, on 28 February 2013 - 07:12 AM, said:

I have a ball with my AC20/x4mlas Flame. It goes 89kph and hit like a whackapult, and nearly as accurate.

My HBK-4G(f) does 90.9kph with an AC/20 and 3mlas (yea one is in the head, hehe, oh well).

Edited by Ngamok, 28 February 2013 - 08:20 AM.

[Inertiaman]

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