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[Homeless Bill]

You got the only three kills on your team in a Spider 5V, and one of them was against a 3L that literally stood in one place the entire fight.

[Cest7]

When 4/8 are trials?

[Critical Fumble]

First I thought this was a joke thread, then I didn't, now I'm not sure.

But just in case:

You know your Elo is bad when you win, and it crashes the server.

"Error, does not compu- ZZZZZZZzzzz POP!"

[Albert Cowboy Teuton]

you know your ELO is low when people on your team "test" their weapon at the start of the match.

[Psikez]

You know your elo is bad when 25% of the players on the field die to out of bounds

[MilkyMeal]

You know your ELO is low if I'm in the match

[Thirdstar]

When a player on my team goes, 'Hey guys I'm sorry but I'm suicide farming'.

[Bishop Steiner]

still trying to figure the whole ELO thing......

cuz lets say my ELO sucks (which I can assure you, in Assault mechs, anyhow, it does)...

but the other 3-7 people I drop with all have good ELO.... then conversely, wont the other team have a single poo ELO pilot, and 7 good ones?

Hence, since there is no guarantee I will even run into and face the other crap pilot.... how the eff does it really "balance" anything? (And what does it prove if I roll out and nab 5 kills that match against the ELO masters?)

I dunno.. probably an easy answer... but I guess I never needed some online scorecard to measure how good my Wang is...

[Thirdstar]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 March 2013 - 05:59 AM, said:

still trying to figure the whole ELO thing......

cuz lets say my ELO sucks (which I can assure you, in Assault mechs, anyhow, it does)...

but the other 3-7 people I drop with all have good ELO.... then conversely, wont the other team have a single poo ELO pilot, and 7 good ones?

Hence, since there is no guarantee I will even run into and face the other crap pilot.... how the eff does it really "balance" anything? (And what does it prove if I roll out and nab 5 kills that match against the ELO masters?)

I dunno.. probably an easy answer... but I guess I never needed some online scorecard to measure how good my Wang is...

[Redshift2k5]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 March 2013 - 05:59 AM, said:

still trying to figure the whole ELO thing......

cuz lets say my ELO sucks (which I can assure you, in Assault mechs, anyhow, it does)...

but the other 3-7 people I drop with all have good ELO.... then conversely, wont the other team have a single poo ELO pilot, and 7 good ones?

Hence, since there is no guarantee I will even run into and face the other crap pilot.... how the eff does it really "balance" anything? (And what does it prove if I roll out and nab 5 kills that match against the ELO masters?)

I dunno.. probably an easy answer... but I guess I never needed some online scorecard to measure how good my Wang is...

It does NOT try to match individual pilot's score. 1 bad pilot and 7 good pilots does not mean the other team will be 1 bad and 7 good pilots.

What it does do is find your team's average and then it finds another random team with a similar average. There are many combinations that will come to the same average as 1 terrible pilot +7 good pilots

[Critical Fumble]

Thirdstar, on 02 March 2013 - 06:03 AM, said:

HOLY CRAP! His teeth fell out. Is there a dentist in the house!?

[Fiest]

they ain't his teeth

[Bishop Steiner]

Redshift2k5, on 02 March 2013 - 06:04 AM, said:

It does NOT try to match individual pilot's score. 1 bad pilot and 7 good pilots does not mean the other team will be 1 bad and 7 good pilots.

What it does do is find your team's average and then it finds another random team with a similar average. There are many combinations that will come to the same average as 1 terrible pilot +7 good pilots

So for all this talk about ELO bringing balance to the Force and all, it sound like it only really helps with moderate to decent players, or premades all of similar ELO levels, since a single FNG will still end up over his head and facing players with a lot more experience?

Not being deliberately obtuse here, but the whole ELO thing... seems IDK... kinda off. But then I don't pay world class Chess, or such, so I think I am missing kinda the point. (In general, matches have been a little better, regardless, except for the wild weight disparity. 300 tons vs 600 tons is kinda harsh regardless of the skill level, particularly when none of your lights brought ECM.....)

[Thirdstar]

Fiest, on 02 March 2013 - 06:08 AM, said:

they ain't his teeth

I was just going to point that out........

[Psikez]

You know your ELO is bad when Bishop keeps coming by and having existential conversations with no one inparticular

[Jarl Dane]

You know your ELO is bad when you never see an ECM 'Mech take the field.

[Demoned]

you know your ELO rating is low when

DukeNukem is on your team

[Redshift2k5]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 March 2013 - 06:09 AM, said:

So for all this talk about ELO bringing balance to the Force and all, it sound like it only really helps with moderate to decent players, or premades all of similar ELO levels, since a single FNG will still end up over his head and facing players with a lot more experience?

Not being deliberately obtuse here, but the whole ELO thing... seems IDK... kinda off. But then I don't pay world class Chess, or such, so I think I am missing kinda the point. (In general, matches have been a little better, regardless, except for the wild weight disparity. 300 tons vs 600 tons is kinda harsh regardless of the skill level, particularly when none of your lights brought ECM.....)

League Of Legends has used Elo in a group setting for a long time. It's been proven to work for games other than Chess. Elo itself has nothing to do with chess and is merely a mathematical projection of win:loss ratio.

League of Legends is much more transparent abut how they implemented elo, and that includes keeping players together with other players of the same Elo score range (so it doesn't put you "in over your head" unless you use the premade team function)

We don't know how MWO is using elo to "stratify" players. We don't know if it is keeping you in a 'tier' all with other players or if it's all a big free for all or what; But what we do know is:

• The majority of players are having a better time with matchmaking
  
• they will continue to tune the matchmaking system in the future
  
• anything is better than nothing (the previous system had zero allocation for player skill/experience and it was terrible)

[PlzDie]

Demoned, on 02 March 2013 - 06:48 AM, said:

you know your ELO rating is low when

DukeNukem is on your team

Yea I agree if he is still busy he should be scrapping the bottom of the barrel by now.

[Fenris Krinkovich]

Albert Cowboy Teuton, on 02 March 2013 - 05:26 AM, said:

you know your ELO is low when people on your team "test" their weapon at the start of the match.

Because knowing how ambient temp affects the heat output of your alpha strike isn't useful information.