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#1 RagenBull

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:13 PM

Short and sweet nothing in a game can make me mad as fast as someone who has a clear advantage over me just because they spend money faster then i do. Why not make mech that you can get with mc that are just like their counterparts only they have 3 more weapon hardpoints and why not make mc weapons that do more dmg and dont make as much heat. Then you can truly **** everyone off to the fullest.

Edited by RagenBull, 04 March 2013 - 07:13 PM.


#2 Matt Minus

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:16 PM

You poor, bro?

#3 RagenBull

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:17 PM

View PostMatt Minus, on 04 March 2013 - 07:16 PM, said:

You poor, bro?


sure if that will make you feel like a big man

#4 KharnZor

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:19 PM

View PostMatt Minus, on 04 March 2013 - 07:16 PM, said:

You poor, bro?

Wow you must have stayed up all night to formulate that very original reply.

#5 BladeSplint

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:20 PM

Prepare your thread

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#6 M4NTiC0R3X

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:21 PM

Who knows what to think, I can't really say much until I'm in the match and it happens to me or I hear about it on the forums... but I'd be kidding if I said I didn't like the look of this and am slightly afraid for my future enjoyment of the game, what with people slinging credit cards out of the sky and what not.

#7 anonymous175

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:21 PM

In before you require more vespene gas.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:22 PM

View PostZeno Scarborough, on 04 March 2013 - 07:21 PM, said:

In before you require more vespene gas.

You must construct additional pylons.

#9 Osa Eris Xero

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:24 PM

View PostFupDup, on 04 March 2013 - 07:22 PM, said:

You must construct additional pylons.


No, you must spawn more overlords

#10 Little Nemo

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:24 PM

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#11 RagenBull

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:25 PM

Lets them get way with 1 p2w item there will be more to follow.

#12 Omigir

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:27 PM

Can I has hug too?

#13 BladeSplint

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:28 PM

lock in 3,2,1...

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:29 PM

View PostNiko Snow, on 04 March 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

P2W is something we aim to avoid at all costs. Nobody here, whether it's the developers, the testers, the designers or the publishers, not even the guy who handles the recycling, want the game to end up in the situation where the only people winning are those who put down money. We've all played those games and we didn't like them either.

Do keep in mind we are discussing a feature that has just completed it's initial design and has not yet been introduced into the game. There is still a great deal of development, testing and revision ahead.

Now if you'll all excuse me: I have to compile 142 pages of feedback on this matter.


You have to admit making the coolant flush module only require one slot to the cbill versions two doesn't exactly inspire much confidence since that gives it a pretty big advantage over it.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:30 PM

View PostBladeSplint, on 04 March 2013 - 07:20 PM, said:

Prepare your thread

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#16 BladeSplint

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:31 PM

View PostZervziel, on 04 March 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:


You have to admit making the coolant flush module only require one slot to the cbill versions two doesn't exactly inspire much confidence since that gives it a pretty big advantage over it.


C-bill does have the advantage of being able to flush twice, albeit for less cooling power, or use both at once if you want to. Cbill would actually be better assuming you have the module space

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:31 PM

View PostNiko Snow, on 04 March 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

P2W is something we aim to avoid at all costs. Nobody here, whether it's the developers, the testers, the designers or the publishers, not even the guy who handles the recycling, want the game to end up in the situation where the only people winning are those who put down money. We've all played those games and we didn't like them either.

Do keep in mind we are discussing a feature that has just completed it's initial design and has not yet been introduced into the game. There is still a great deal of development, testing and revision ahead.

Now if you'll all excuse me: I have to compile 142 pages of feedback on this matter.


Perhaps just a touch more of that development, testing, and revision could be done possibly before inclusion of items into the game. It could go a long ways into preventing your compilation skills being put to the test.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:33 PM

View PostZervziel, on 04 March 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:


You have to admit making the coolant flush module only require one slot to the cbill versions two doesn't exactly inspire much confidence since that gives it a pretty big advantage over it.


This is only semi-true. The MC flush is superior if you only want to be able to use the flush once. The C-Bill flush is superior if you want to be able to use it twice. Only if you want a single use does the MC one outperform.

When going for multiple use the C-Bill option gives equal performance (35% per module slot), and the option to use the flush twice, while this is impossible for the MC option to accomplish as it can't be stacked and is single use.


View PostBladeSplint, on 04 March 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:


C-bill does have the advantage of being able to flush twice, albeit for less cooling power, or use both at once if you want to. Cbill would actually be better assuming you have the module space


I was under the impression if you had both the effects just outright stacked on both uses, I guess we'll see tomorrow. =)

Edited by Squigles, 04 March 2013 - 07:34 PM.


#19 RagenBull

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:33 PM

View PostNiko Snow, on 04 March 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

P2W is something we aim to avoid at all costs. Nobody here, whether it's the developers, the testers, the designers or the publishers, not even the guy who handles the recycling, want the game to end up in the situation where the only people winning are those who put down money. We've all played those games and we didn't like them either.

Do keep in mind we are discussing a feature that has just completed it's initial design and has not yet been introduced into the game. There is still a great deal of development, testing and revision ahead.

Now if you'll all excuse me: I have to compile 142 pages of feedback on this matter.


If this is true please tell me why your first idea is to simply make the mc mod better? was it just to see if there would be an outcry and if there was not then away with it you go? If there is an outcry then you will just say its a trial stag guys dont worrie we where just joking about that p2w thing

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 07:36 PM

View PostZervziel, on 04 March 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:


You have to admit making the coolant flush module only require one slot to the cbill versions two doesn't exactly inspire much confidence since that gives it a pretty big advantage over it.



Screw which is better colant in ANY form is a bad idea. Its always been a bad idea and its still going to be a bad idea tomorrow. If the guy who came up with ECM and colant is the same person PLEASE FIRE THEM.



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