36 replies to this topic

[MadPanda]

Didn't you already have a thread about coolant pods? Anyway, good catch on Garth saying complete opposite of what is going to happen, lulz.

[Marduk Moreau]

Tarman, on 05 March 2013 - 05:00 AM, said:

Potion of Cooling.

Wait I lied, potions usually have weight. >______>

SPELL of Cooling! Cast once/game. Comes in Double Minor and Major. Major requires a sacrifice of gold as a material component though.

Spells usually have components which take up space and add weight.

[Tarman]

Marduk Moreau, on 05 March 2013 - 05:04 AM, said:

Spells usually have components which take up space and add weight.

It's a simple mnemonic spell that you memorize beforehand. You just rest between each battle, sacrifice your gold if it's a Major Cooling, and bang, spell's back next battle. Easy peasy.

It's the Meteor Strike spells that really worry me though. Same projected casting style.

[Scarlett Avignon]

WolvesX, on 05 March 2013 - 03:39 AM, said:

Thank! No support for pay-to-win!

Can we drop the P2W crap and focus on the fact that this is just a flat-out horrible game mechanic?

[Lonestar1771]

Why would you take anything Garth says at face value? Dude has been selling ice to Eskimos since day one.

[DarthMolen]

Tarman, on 05 March 2013 - 05:00 AM, said:

Potion of Cooling.

Wait I lied, potions usually have weight. >______>

SPELL of Cooling! Cast once/game. Comes in Double Minor and Major. Major requires a sacrifice of gold as a material component though.

Potions were banned from arena in WoW..... #justsayin

[SI The Joker]

I suggested it elsewhere... but a command chair post on the coolant flush concept would probably clear a lot of things up, and might even calm folks (me included) down.

[MustrumRidcully]

AceTimberwolf, on 05 March 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

Might as well add picture

And a Link
http://mwomercs.com/...evs-18-answers/

Brought to you by a chained up Zeus

Well, to be fair: PGI is always allowed to change its opinion if it has new facts. After all, we want them to correct their mistakes, right?

The questions may be:
1) What facts changed to warrant a change of the position?
2) Do we agree with their new position (regardless of reasoning)?

[CrushLibs]

Coolant is a bandaid to the real problem.

DHS for IS is a factor of 1.7x not 1.4x Clan is a full 2.0x

Fix the multi and fix the problem.
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**side note** coolant flush in MWLL worked well. Having X cooling % increase is BS

Going to introduce a coolant flush please do it right the first time.

Edited by CrushLibs, 05 March 2013 - 06:28 AM.

[Vedic]

I wish I could Like the OP 50 times - that's an incredible find. This is the single best argument against coolant flush as a concept, P2W questions aside. In PGI's own words it has limited utility unless you make it so powerful that it becomes a "crutch" that enables poor build design and heat management. As designed, this thing would be a bad idea even without the MC factor.

FWIW, I actually don't even think the MC version is "better" or P2W at all - there are real tradeoffs to both setups. This is just an annoying, pointless mechanic that won't add anything positive to the game.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

bump for irony and the future of mwo

[Truthstar]

Budor, on 05 March 2013 - 04:03 AM, said:

Dude i buy MC allthetime just to paint robits or get good scores in horrible hero mechs. I DO NOT WANT THIS ****!

If they implemented an arena or some type of method to drop UnitvsUnit consistently I'd be paying them a monthly fee of MC.

[Alois Hammer]

Spawnsalot, on 05 March 2013 - 04:20 AM, said:

Not to play devil's advocate here but I would draw your attention here:

They had issues with it providing a large advantage and being available for nothing.

...so basically it wasn't Pay-2-Win enough, but once they solved that little problem so they could cash in selling Easy Buttons™ everything was fine and dandy. Got it.

[Spawnsalot]

Alois Hammer, on 05 March 2013 - 09:19 AM, said:

...so basically it wasn't Pay-2-Win enough, but once they solved that little problem so they could cash in selling Easy Buttons™ everything was fine and dandy. Got it.

Not quite the angle I was coming from but "zing!" none the less.

[Grey Man]

Tarman, on 05 March 2013 - 05:58 AM, said:

It's a simple mnemonic spell that you memorize beforehand. You just rest between each battle, sacrifice your gold if it's a Major Cooling, and bang, spell's back next battle. Easy peasy.

It's the Meteor Strike spells that really worry me though. Same projected casting style.

It does have a somatic component though. So all you have to do is prevent other players from using their hands and all will be well.

[Livewyr]

Ok. They dropped the idea from consideration.. didn't figure it would be worth it if it didn't last a fight.
And.. picked it back up.

Apparently they were wrong about it not being worth looking into, since it wouldn't last a fight. They picked up the one-time-use 15-35% heat drop, and suddenly it's overpowered.

Also: dropping an idea because they think it isn't worth it != promising..

[Greyfyl]

Lonestar1771, on 05 March 2013 - 06:14 AM, said:

Why would you take anything Garth says at face value? Dude has been selling ice to Eskimos since day one.

I've said this for months now. I am amazed at the number of people that act like this guy is our best buddy. He's a salesmen pitching a product. How long do you think this plan has been in place? It's not like they just woke up Sunday morning and decided to put this into the game this month. I would be willing to bet it's been in the plan since day 1, it's how most f2p games work.

How can so many people find this surprising?