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[Carrioncrows]

I like this mech, no complaints.

Unlike the PB and DK there isn't a single thing wrong with this mech.

[Trev Firestorm]

ohtochooseaname, the artemis is probably not helping you on that build... but yeah 2 srm6s with a xl300 and 4slas is quite nice. Love the mech because of those 2 tube launchers, had been hoping for something like this for a while.

[dangerzone]

Whats with all this OP missile tube nonsense?!

Mechs are OP! I don't die from ECM or ssrm2's!! I die from enemy mechs! Mechs are OP! Nerf mechs!!!

haha, just kidding. I might buy this beauty.

[MilitantMonk]

As dedicated Cicada player it is exactly what I wanted in the chassis. The option to have missiles!

[etrius]

So how does this not have AMS? Really? No ECM AND No AMS?!?!?!?!??

Edited by etrius, 05 March 2013 - 09:38 PM.

[Void Angel]

If I was a Cicada pilot, I'd expect to love this 'mech as well. As a Spider pilot, it just makes it easier to cry myself to sleep with bitter tears. At least it doesn't have ECM - that'd make it an upgunned version of the Raven 3L. =)

PS. I don't say this to make you feel bad - I'm a Spider pilot. I'd be crying myself to sleep at night anyway.

[john7677]

No AMS?!?!?!?!

[Chrithu]

The only thing I do not like about it is the paint job.

Other than that those Missile hardpoints rock. I've put two SRM 6 on and replaced the torso ML with SL until I unlock speed tweak.

[Training Instructor]

Jesus, when was the last time you put AMS on a fast mech anyways?

[and zero]

Training Instructor, on 05 March 2013 - 10:38 PM, said:

Jesus, when was the last time you put AMS on a fast mech anyways?

well, maybe to help surive crap streak ravens and commandos? Outside of about 150m AMS actually takes out a few streak missiles. Anyway, that is not the point. The point is that EVERY other mech has it. Hero or not. There is no reason the x-5 should not have it. It fits on streak commandos. Fits on the ilya. Why not the cicada?

[Jonathan Paine]

I was intrigued by the x5 and decided to try out Cicadas. Great little mechs, and apparently I play better in the 2A than the X5:)

[MightyMeatShield]

Warge, on 05 March 2013 - 01:16 PM, said:

Not all light mechs and mediums have ECM. Any exept COM 2D, RVN 3L, SDR 5D - deadmeat against X-5. Pretty P2W for me...

I beg to differ. I killed one X-5 and severely crippled another X-5 in a match this night in my Jenner. And I'm not that exceptional as a pilot. Both were loaded with MLs and SSRMs. I eventually was destroyed by a Treb and another Jenner. Most fun I've had in a while. Definitely not P2W.

[Falconic]

You should put AMS or ECM on this mech! Removing AMS on a mech everyone already laughs at is crazy. I love my Cicada! Why are you doing this to me!

Falconic
Locust Lance

[Void Angel]

Why would you put an AMS in a Cicada, or any fast 'mech? SRMS travel too fast from too close a range for the AMS to effectively engage, and you can literally outrun LRMs. An AMS is just short of a waste of space on a fast chassis - your nearby teammates get more benefit out of it than you do.

Edited by Void Angel, 06 March 2013 - 01:05 AM.

[Chrithu]

ohtochooseaname, on 05 March 2013 - 05:18 PM, said:

I am probably not going to get one of these because it doesn't have ECM, so it doesn't really have anything that another Mech does better (Jenner D does the SSRM + Speed loadout better, 50 tonners do mid speed SRM loadouts better), except for the following build: X-5 SRM6 It's got both speed and SRM6 at the cost of the very high end, and having small lasers. This build takes a crap ton of skill to use because you are basically firing non-stop with the short duration and cd of the SL's and the extended duration of the SRM6's. I am not sure if artemis is necessary for only a 2 tube launch, so that's debatable. Art could be dropped for the sake of upgrading to medium lasers, which has thermal problems, or a 300 engine, 1 heatsink, and the original armor.

No Artemis is not needed with the two tube layout. The spread only get's noteworthy at max range.

Also I can tell from experience with my 2A that on a elite CDA 4 ML will not get you into heat trouble even if you just use the 10 engine heatsinks. The only sacriffice you make is some speed. But also from experience with my 2A i can tell you that too much speed adversely affects your aim. Aiming for speed around 120 to 130ish is enough. 150 is nice to do some tactical quirks such as distraction caps and the like. But with lagshield mostly gone you're better off sticking with the pack and leaving such things to true lights which are better suited for that due to their smaller sillhouettes.

[Riktor Voshek]

Void Angel, on 06 March 2013 - 01:03 AM, said:

Why would you put an AMS in a Cicada, or any fast 'mech? SRMS travel too fast from too close a range for the AMS to effectively engage, and you can literally outrun LRMs. An AMS is just short of a waste of space on a fast chassis - your nearby teammates get more benefit out of it than you do.

There's the answer to your question.

[CG Oglethorpe Kerensky]

There is literally no role that the X-5 can perform that another mech cannot do better.

All this discussion about what you can do with the X-5, you need to ask yourself, is there another mech that can already accomplish this more efficiently?
SRM boat: Jenner/Centurion A or D
LRM boat: Trebuchet
Laser boat: Jenner, Treb 3C
Streak boat: Raven, Treb 7M, Commando 2D

[MilitantMonk]

Fear the Garthmobile!

[Tibs]

i been haveing issues with my x5 game locks up with it ... didnt have that with other mechs

[DLS]

Just making my voice heard ... ADD AMS to the X-5!!!
I understand that ECM could be viewed as P2W with the missile load out + speed capabilities but at least put AMS on this thing. Everyone says you can outrun LRMs ... while yes it may be physically capable of this feat its not always possible/plausible. EVERY SINGLE OTHER MECH HAS AMS! Yes I would devote that 2.5 tons. Would have preferred a Ballistic hard point but the missiles are nice. And as someone pointed out ... while the benefit of AMS to the Cada itself may be negligible its the all around support it brings. Please PGI tell us this was an oversight of some last minute tweak before the patch was applied. I already bought the X-5 and will/do drive it but give it AMS :/