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[MischiefSC]

This worked out well for me last time with my Atlas.

So I've got a K2 that I wuv whole bunches. We spend quality time together walking on the beach and enjoy the sunset and shooting people.

Time for another heavy though.

I hear mixed reviews on Dragons. Is there a solid build anyone would recommend?

Cataphracts too. Suggestions? Recommendations? A brawler, a sniper, not too picky. Just something to go have fun in consistently.

What's the best Heavy variant and build you've ever played and why?

[jakucha]

I'm not really interested in any of the heavies until Jagermech comes out. I can manage to do almost 600 damage in a treb with 2 acs and 2 medium lasers on a good game so I can't wait until I can stack even more dakka.

[Vassago Rain]

Give me cats, or give me death.

[Captain Pee Sheets]

Depends on your play style. If you like the catapult, I'd recommend trying to the Dragon out. The cataphrat can be good, but (in my opinion) it's much harder to play WELL. And those side torsos just love to come off....

Or like jakucha said, wait for the Jagermech....should be a fun one. :-)

[Stingz]

Cataphract, Dragon is a fat medium(tried it, went back to Centurions).

[Biglead]

The Orion.

[Vlad Ward]

CTF-3D 2x ER PPC 1x Gauss + JJs is pretty much the most competent non-Catapult, non-Hero Heavy.

Brawler Phracts are notoriously squishy because of their MTS issue (Massive Torso Syndrome).

Double AC/5 + Double UAC CTF-4X is also fun as hell, if closer to the average/mediocre end of the spectrum overall.

Edited by Vlad Ward, 07 March 2013 - 06:10 PM.

[ferranis]

If you like dakka go for the cataphract 4x or 3d and put some good old shootas in it.

[ragingmunkyz]

Well the cat A1 and K2 would win, but since you said OTHER than cats, I'd have to say cataphract 3D for the epic poptart sniping skills!

[Treckin]

Dragon if you like to move around and not derp herp durp at 50kph.

[Oni Ralas]

Don't like cataphracts - don't know why, I just don't.

We can pretend an Awesome is actually a heavy right? Save up your cbills for the incomming dakka dakka goodness that is the Jagermech.

[Wolfman989]

Dragon is boss... if you play it right that is. It's not a brawler, or a sniper, or a harasser but a combo of everything. Personaly i love it so much because no matter what situation i find myself in my flame i never feel useless.

true going toe to toe with a cataphract will leave you crying, and trying to outsnipe a gausscat will not pay off. But i have a hard time building a mech with the survivabilty, firepower, and mobility that a dragon offers.

Wolf

[Tarriss Halcyon]

Wolfman989, on 07 March 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:

Dragon is boss... if you play it right that is. It's not a brawler, or a sniper, or a harasser but a combo of everything. Personaly i love it so much because no matter what situation i find myself in my flame i never feel useless.

true going toe to toe with a cataphract will leave you crying, and trying to outsnipe a gausscat will not pay off. But i have a hard time building a mech with the survivabilty, firepower, and mobility that a dragon offers.

Wolf

Not always true. I've got all three non-hero Dragons with finished elite tier, and I can say that I come off better than most Cataphract or Catapult in a direct engagement, depending on their build. If they want to snipe, good on them. Cataphracts with AC5s and UACs typically mount an XL, so if you practice at focusing your fire on specific points on an enemy mech, you can kill them easy. A Dragon only needs an XL if you plan to hunt Lights, because it's default engine puts it at 81kph, just as fast as a default Raven. With speed tweak, that puts it at 89kph, just short of the current Trial Commando. Only mechs I struggle with are Splatcats with surprise tactics, and the occasional AC20-mounting heavy doing the same.

[Xerkics]

The jumping cataphract with 3 ppcs seems to be flavour of the month. Jumping over a hill building with JJ then firing then rinse and repeat. Now where did i see that before.....

Also from perspective of an Atlas pilot i think cataphracts are much more of a threat than awesomes. Phract has a lot of dakka while Awesome is usually just more of an annoyance than much of a threat.. Make of it what you will. Im waiting for Orion myself.

Edited by Xerkics, 07 March 2013 - 06:58 PM.

[tuokaerf]

I used to drive mainly Catapults when I wanted a heavy then slowly switched over to Cataphracts. While Catapults are awesome, I feel that Cataphracts are more versatile from a hardpoint sense. I'm a fan of the Ilya Muromets, 3D, and 2X

Edited by tuokaerf, 07 March 2013 - 07:33 PM.

[The Cheese]

Just remember this: Dragons are bad. Anyone who disagrees is lying.

They can be fun to play, but that doesn't make them less bad.

Edited by The Cheese, 07 March 2013 - 07:05 PM.

[8RoundsRapid]

I seem to be the only one who ever uses the cataphract 1X, but try this:

2erppc
3medlaser
20DHS

make sure and put the erppcs in the torso's so you can peek over hills and fire while protecting 90% of your mech. the 3 arm mounted lasers come in handy as well. Dont forget, no min range on erppc! And also dont forget to switch to chain fire on the ppc's if you get too hot. Dont shut down or you're dead!

I know its weird to not use the ballistic hardpoint, but those torso energy hardpoints are just absolutly perfect for working w/ ppc's.

The cataphract is not my favorite heavy, but I despise the catapult and the stupid dragon. Jagermech looks promising, but its still kinda meh. The orion, tho, now that will prolly be the first mech i get all variants and master/elite the entire set.

[Wispsy]

Catapault is the worst heavy...massive head

Edited by Wispsy, 07 March 2013 - 07:26 PM.

[Scorcher One]

Just wait for the upcomming Jagermech.

After that, we can discuss it again.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

Yep, don't use Cataphracts. They're totally not worth it