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[Cpt Beefheart]

As a seasoned activist IRL, who's done everything from court battles and lobbying, to picketing and blockades, I'm going to have to say that any protest needs a set of clear demands in order to actually do anything. Protests need to say "look, you guys, if we were in charge this is what we'd do" and make clear, simple, demands because, from my experience, the demands *are* the protest.
If you have a broad range of issues, you probably just don't like the game and should take a break from it. That's just my opinion

[Taemien]

It definitely seems like you are simply protesting for the sake of protesting. Like the above poster said, you don't even have a direction you want MWO. So how the heck is PGI going to know what this is about? I'll even go so far as to call the OP a troll and the links as some sort of phishing scam.

I mean you're giving very little reason to believe other wise. Here you are posting a controversial topic with the guise of being helpful through a 'peaceful protest'. Thats sure to get people riled up on the forum, thus a troll. And then you show us some links to a website you setup. Because your goals are vague as well as your subject. How do we know there isn't a trojan on those links you set up? How do we know this isn't some way to get hits on the website for advertising purposes?

Your creditability is very low at this point simply due to the vagueness of your subject and not having a clear direction.

[Jay Kerensky]

I didn't receive a hoard of sexy nymphomaniacs when I bought my founders pack - probably because I would never have to time to play if I actually recieved them - BUT DAMN IT - THAT'S NOT THE POINT!

What is the point?, I hear you cry.

No idea, but neither does the OP, so we're all good here

[MonkeyCheese]

Wall of QQ personal opinions while a game is still in beta, didnt read.

[CDLord HHGD]

Tekadept, on 10 March 2013 - 01:57 AM, said:

• I now trust PGI as much as I do a Politician. It seem’s that you don't do what you say you will do and do everything you say you won't.

LOL, you are Australian and YOU don't trust YOUR politicians?? Try living in the US, OUR politicians don't have a single honest bone in their bodies and haven't for CENTURIES. From the top down, they are all lying, cheating, candy stealing asshats who may be intelligent, but have the wisdom of a pile of rocks.

[Lightfoot]

What don't you like? I don't like that MWO is suddenly crashing all the time, but no one does.

I don't like that LRMs are not reliable enough to use, they either don't work or are OP'd. They should be a nice missile weapon that compares to the functionality of the other weapons in MWO, just forget what the do in a Table Top world.

but I wouldn't boycott the game for this or DHS 1.4, or other variations.

What direction do you think MWO is taking?

[Lightfoot]

If you want the game to change in some ways you have to outline the reasons and issues or nothing will happen except you won't be here for two days.

[DarkBazerker]

All due respect. I don't understand what it is your unhappy with. OP we need more details for better clarity.

[Hellboy561]

von Pilsner, on 10 March 2013 - 02:45 AM, said:

This game may not be 100% what I would like it to be, but I do not see the need to try and teach PGI a lesson (particularly when the lesson is so vague).

I think the point that he is trying to make is "Listen to us!" PGI have ignored the community over and over, saying that they will be posting Command Chair updates about features of the game and months later...nothing.

I understand perfectly what the OP is talking about, if there are problems with the game that have been going on for time that are annoying you, join in on this. We have all had black screen bugs, desktop crashes, target indicator bugs and to be honest i was disgusted at the answers for the last Ask the Devs, talk about copy and pasting the word "No" as much as you can.

All of these things are parts that PGI we're sweeping under the table and hoping with U.I. 2.0 we would all just forget about everything else they have promised and jump on the "working as intended" bandwagon.

I for one WILL be joining you on this date, i will show my support in the hope that PGI will maybe actually get back on the forums and listen to its community before this game goes down the drain.

Don't get me wrong, i LOVE this game. But there have been some poor design choices (yes I know I'm not a programmer/developer) but it doesn't take alot to listen to what people are saying and make an INFORMED decision on where to go from here..

To be honest, i think the main two things that come to mind are ECM Command Chair post still missing months later, and the 3rd person fiasco, with the majority of the community saying "Hell No" and the Devs once again ignoring whatever we say because obviously, they know best...

[CDLord HHGD]

Hellboy561, on 10 March 2013 - 05:02 AM, said:

I think the point that he is trying to make is "Listen to us!" PGI have ignored the community over and over, saying that they will be posting Command Chair updates about features of the game and months later...nothing.

But they don't ignore us. The Consumables re-write is proof of that. Are they sticking to their timetable? No. Who does? Screaming that they aren't living up to expectations is absurd. Could their communication be better? Sure, there's always room for improvement. Does PGI have full control (meaning IGP)? No.

[maXe72]

They know the issues. They do their best to improve the game because their jobs depend on.
I believe the main part of the Devs also enjoys plaing their game.

But dont you think it can be some kind of frustrating for them to become buttkicked from their managers because the game isnt selling as expected AND by the community because we are not
fully satisfied with the current BETA ?

This Thread is nothing but counterproductive.

Edited by maXe72, 10 March 2013 - 05:41 AM.

[Tekadept]

Perhaps my wording is really wrong as what does it matter what I think when I am asking if YOU are unhappy? If you need to ask that question then obviously you are very happy with the way things are and that is fine, I'm not trying to sway you either way.

Let me try and put it this way. Every game is going to have bugs and glitches, and need fixes etc, that is part of life especially part of a beta and i accept that and not what this is about.

Perhaps some examples of what I’m trying to convey:
Are you constantly buying MC to support this game, buying premium time & paint & baubles etc, loving every minute of the game, everything PGI is putting out you are absolutely loving? Great good for you, I support you enjoying your game and supporting the developer of this game that you love. Continue to play nothing to see here.

Are you a founder who has your premium but haven't activated yet because you are still waiting for X to be implemented, or you just are waiting for x mech. Or you are a new user and bought some MC and bought a few mechs but are in the same boat not purchasing more until the same as above.

Have you read official statement’s where something is said that definitely will or will not happen and then all of a sudden its completely a viable option to do the opposite?

Do you ever read developer updates/patch notes time and time again and give a big facepalm? do you find you have cut back on your play time drastically and only log on whenever there is a patch just to see if they have “FIXED” Z? Are you Frustrated with the lack of communication or the way communication is coming through from the developers?

Perhaps this is where you ask yourself whether you are truly happy or not? If you are unsure can you bring yourself to purchase a few $$’s on some MC to help fund the developers (generalising here, I of course do not know everybodys personal financial situation).

For those that think a protest will do nothing, perhaps it will, perhaps it won't. Do you same people go into all the other posts with people offering opinions saying what's the point of making an opinion, it won't do anything?, If you do have even the slightest of doubts what's the harm in 48 hours of playing another game to try and make a point going to do to you?

However If you think this will hurt the development or is counter productive show your support by buying some MC and continuing to play the game you love and have fun doing it.

Edited by Tekadept, 10 March 2013 - 05:49 AM.

[Mycrus]

cdlord, on 10 March 2013 - 05:15 AM, said:

But they don't ignore us. The Consumables re-write is proof of that. Are they sticking to their timetable? No. Who does? Screaming that they aren't living up to expectations is absurd. Could their communication be better? Sure, there's always room for improvement. Does PGI have full control (meaning IGP)? No.

[Clarice Creed]

MonkeyCheese, on 10 March 2013 - 04:46 AM, said:

Wall of QQ personal opinions while a game is still in beta, didnt read.

I think the OP made a pointless thread here because of various reasons adressed in other replies, but "its beta" as a blanket justification for anything that might or might not be wrong with the game design, development process or general methods of the developer is the reason we cant have nice things.

[FerretGR]

This protest should make for some interesting call-and-response...

"What do we want?"

"WE'RE NOT SURE!"

"When do we want it?"

"RELATIVELY SOON!"

[Zero Neutral]

How is this thread not against the CoC?

[maXe72]

Tekadept, on 10 March 2013 - 05:45 AM, said:

However If you think this will hurt the development or is counter productive show your support by buying some MC and continuing to play the game you love and have fun doing it.

I am playin this game since a month and simply fall in love with the unique playstyle.
The first 100-150 Matches WERE actually a real pain, have to read many threads about building mechs etc.
Got ROFLstomped so much, it actually gaves me pain in the stomach some times...

By now i spend a few bucks for my 3m premium time as i am sure they will solve the issues (MM, ECM balance, CW, maybe PUG/Clan queque and so on).
I am also not 100% satisfied with the current state, had done now 700+ matches in my VERY rare freetime.

As you said, i simply love playin it.

Edited by maXe72, 10 March 2013 - 06:13 AM.

[OneEyed Jack]

I honestly have no idea if I agree or not.

[Mycrus]

Zero Neutral, on 10 March 2013 - 05:55 AM, said:

How is this thread not against the CoC?

stop being vague... how is it against the CoC?

[Mycrus]

OneEyed Jack, on 10 March 2013 - 06:04 AM, said:

I honestly have no idea if I agree or not.

i kind of feel the same way... but perhaps i'm even more jaded than most...

3PV? sure! knock yourself out...
CONSUMABLE? go for it! weed out the spacepoors...
No Lobby? np! use PUGs for target practice...
[insert gripe] lolwut! it's BETA bro!