43 replies to this topic

[Ajion]

Now guys, before you scream - troll. I am not and I am asking a serious question. The question is: Catapult A1 version and why perhaps we should remove this version or modify its stats.

First, it was the streaks, and now we have the SRMS.

Catapult is really good mech, but by heavying 6 srm slots, well heh, it is a newb's dream come true.

I mean, sure, I am aware of the counters on it, such as snipers, and just keep range, or shoot it's ears, but such things are not always easy, considering a Catapult is quite mobile.

All i am trying to say, it is ONE mech that stands out from others as the most likely cheesiest and easier mech to pilot.

Let just think a bit critical hehe, i don;t care what you bring, but having A1 Cat on you is not fun at all, i am sure we have Medium Pilots here, who instant died.

Respect,
Ajion

Edited by Ajion, 10 March 2013 - 07:50 PM.

[Harmin]

Suck it up and deal with it.

[Pater Mors]

Yay another 'boats are bad' thread.

To all your points, no. Learn to play.

[Delas Ting Usee]

Harmin, on 10 March 2013 - 06:35 PM, said:

Suck it up and deal with it.

Pater Mors, on 10 March 2013 - 06:37 PM, said:

Yay another 'boats are bad' thread. To all your points, no. Learn to play.

What they said.

[Davers]

No poll option for 'Kill it at range'?

[Lindonius]

[BulletChief]

tbh, with the possibilty of spawning on a larger map the amount of A1s has gone done drastically... they are basically worthless on Alpine. with ac20-pults you can at least fire beyond your 270m limitation.

i myself have also gone back to a srm/lrm combination since it's way more effective in my eyes...
and with the amount of ppc snipers now i really don't see a problem with them anymore. they are dead before they can hit you.
using a srm-cat is a gamble. total domination or total destruction... 50/50.
imho balanced.

Edited by BulletChief, 10 March 2013 - 06:44 PM.

[Lukoi Banacek]

I play a Medium fulltime for over a month now. I've got 3 matches in my Atlas.

I voted "suck it up." There's nothing overpowering or unbeatable about that cheese build.

[Staplebeater]

don't get in front of him

Edited by Staplebeater, 10 March 2013 - 06:56 PM.

[CheeseThief]

Suck it up and deal with it.

The new and improved lasers take those ears off with minimal fuss and hopefully when knockbacks make a return the slow mechs that can't escape can simply bowl them over.

[Hammerfinn]

I just had a game where I killed two with my LLas cicada. Not scared of 'em. If they ambush you, are you dead? Yeah, but same with a lot of other mechs. I do hope that the quirks take away a little bit of their mobility, but it's not a huge issue.

Suck it up and dead with it.

[Deathlike]

Only suggestion is to add some sort of energy hardpoint to the head of the A1, so it has two possible roles, not one op+one practically fail mode. You can then add TAG to make it what it was supposed to be...

This and a "buff" to the C4, where one of the energy hardpoints is moved from the CT to the head. This will make the C4 better at defending itself (the large laser or large pulse would not have the extra hardpoint wasted), making the A1 vs C4 debate slightly more interesting.

[Noobzorz]

What should we do with it?

Balance SRMs.

It's not much better when an AS7-D-DC oneshot legs a light with its alpha.

[Sheraf]

I say deal with it

[Ghostwolfe]

I got a better comment...so you remove the one mech you don't like..then what? You ask to remove the next mech you don't like.


If you go toe to toe with a Splatcat then you should be dead, learn the tricks to dealing with them instead of complaining. Imo it's balanced, it's a gamble, yeah it can be fun for a noob player..so what? You don't like a noob pwning you? You feel this mech negates your "skill"? I say if you can't deal with this missile boat in any other way than complaining about it, you need to up your "skills".

No mech is meant to dominate nor always lose...the combinations of maps, scenarios, and random chance all play a factor in how our skills can be used. I've seen Spaltcats gets creamed by skilled players or just due to the map...and I've seen light and medium piolts make a huge mistake and get eaten by one. Tough. It's just another variant and can be either fun to play or one to avoid. Think about all the things you can do to negate your opponent's strength's and suddenly this is not such a scary machine

Noobzorz, on 10 March 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

It's not much better when an AS7-D-DC oneshot legs a light with its alpha.

For my .02 a light mech should get a leg one shotted if it gets hit with an alpha from an Assault mech.... it's a light mech vs. an Assault mech and that implies a lot.

[Ajion]

Thank you guys for your input, the problem I am having is that when I pilot that Cat, and many other good pilots; it is not even a challenge, medium mechs die in 1 - 2 shots, assaults can't deal with you cause you are mobile. So I get bored, and i challenge myself with decent builds, not cheese, but those that require skill. You notice that teams, that DO have A1s do significantly better overall - unless they don;t know what they doing.

Sure pilots can primary A1, but by the time it is dead, it did double or triple the amount of damage than the rest of the opposing team. And if you are not a single A1, then it just gets that much better.

You can argue about the map, but a good pilot will take cover, or be behind an atlas on approach to close the distance, or whatever other trick he will use. The point here is, depending on the A1 set up, 1 - 2 direct hits, pretty much make the target too vulnerable to be of a significant threat, even after an A1 is dead.

I also say suck it up and deal with it, but, my logic and not emotion says, tune the mech down, by tweaking its stats. Then it will require greater skill and more challenging to pilot, hence fun.

Edited by Ajion, 10 March 2013 - 07:54 PM.

[Livewyr]

Livewyr, on 10 March 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

Wanna reduce the splatcat? Fix ECM for two reasons just pertaining to this: Let the splat cat carry something other than SRMs...AND don't give them a missile immune umbrella to let them just run about freely. The splatcat will always be powerful (I ran them before they were cool) but right now it's absurd because ECM has turn the game into a brawl fest outside of an occasional sniper match.

You're missing an option.

Edited by Livewyr, 10 March 2013 - 07:47 PM.

[Inconspicuous]

Biased poll is biased...

[Lukoi Banacek]

Ajion, on 10 March 2013 - 07:43 PM, said:

I also say suck it up and deal with it, but, my logic and not emotion says, tune the match down, by tweaking its stats. Then it will require greater skill and more challenging to pilot, hence fun.

This is your opinion, duly noted. I think the poll shows it to be in the minority.

[Ajion]

Lukoi, on 10 March 2013 - 07:48 PM, said:

This is your opinion, duly noted. I think the poll shows it to be in the minority.

yep, that is why i did not want to create just another forum post. I wanted a poll, so that it reflects the sentiment of MW community.