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[Hellboy561]

Just wondering, according to sarna.net the Long Tom should be available now:
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Long_Tom
http://www.sarna.net...Long_Tom_Cannon <-- This one! (Thanks Joeseph Mallan)

This got me thinking, why are we getting artillery consumables when there is artillery that can be mounted onto Mechs? I would much rather pack a Long Tom and rain death on people with skill than click somewhere on the map and just watch the computer drop bombs onto my enemy..no skill = no fun

But then this also got me thinking about other weapon systems that would fill the artillery and support role, such as the Arrow IV - http://www.sarna.net...ow_IV_Artillery

Just a thought, what do you guys think?

Edited by Hellboy561, 11 March 2013 - 06:24 AM.

[Vassago Rain]

It's in my pants.

[Eric darkstar Marr]

Arrow IV yes a few mechs did mount it including the catapult.

As for a long tom that thing was huge and no mech mounted it ever. It was mounted on 3 tracked/wheeled/rail vehicles and moved very very slowly. So the incoming artillery strikes I am sure Longtom based.

[Xenois Shalashaska]

Vassago Rain, on 11 March 2013 - 04:47 AM, said:

It's in my pants.

I inforce this truth as i also have this

[AlexEss]

I can see it now.

Mounts LongTom on mech... Get dropped on FC...

Hilarity ensues.

Honestly as fun as indirect arty fire is you can do something similar by dumb fire LRM's and you quickly realise that apart from maps like Alpine you would be a liability to your team. It also weighs 30 tons so you would have to give up a lot on most mechs to fit it + ammo

The Arrow system might be in at some point seeing as we have maps that are big enough to use it properly.

[Cairbre]

You know, I could have sworn a mech did, but I was quite wrong. Now, the Catapult C3 was equipped with an Arrow IV artillery missile launcher, and this sucker used a smaller long tom- http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Helepolis. I was thinking of it when I went searching.

I strongly suspect that such weird and specialized weapons are way down on the priority list. I'd much rather see physical combat added in- it would instantly buff mechs with hands, and counterbalance the current LRM craze.

[Monkey Bone]

Devs need to eat too etc.

[Adrienne Vorton]

longtom will be sold as a module soon...

[Joseph Mallan]

Eric darkstar Marr, on 11 March 2013 - 04:47 AM, said:

Arrow IV yes a few mechs did mount it including the catapult.

As for a long tom that thing was huge and no mech mounted it ever. It was mounted on 3 tracked/wheeled/rail vehicles and moved very very slowly. So the incoming artillery strikes I am sure Longtom based.

Long Tom Artillery Cannons. Ahem.

[CDLord HHGD]

Eric darkstar Marr, on 11 March 2013 - 04:47 AM, said:

Arrow IV yes a few mechs did mount it including the catapult.

As for a long tom that thing was huge and no mech mounted it ever. It was mounted on 3 tracked/wheeled/rail vehicles and moved very very slowly. So the incoming artillery strikes I am sure Longtom based.

Thought there was a later Mech out there designed specifically to mount the Long Tom.... Not the Hollander, but Hollander-esq.....

[Congzilla]

The Long Tom Artillery was not able to be mounted on a mech. The one mounted on a mech was the Long Tom Cannon.

[Adridos]

Both Long-Tom and Arrow IV use really specific rules and simply don't work in conventional mech engagement. Not only that, but they also have the problem that they require extensive mechlab adjustments.

However, I would also like to see them added on teh map like arty in WoT. However, who would play as a mech role of which is to stand in one place, wait for TAG/NARC and then launch the missile/fire the cannon?

[Joseph Mallan]

Congzilla, on 11 March 2013 - 05:37 AM, said:

The Long Tom Artillery was not able to be mounted on a mech. The one mounted on a mech was the Long Tom Cannon.

Shorter distance, fired an artillery shell. direct fire area affect weapon.

[Fabe]

Eric darkstar Marr, on 11 March 2013 - 04:47 AM, said:

Arrow IV yes a few mechs did mount it including the catapult.

As for a long tom that thing was huge and no mech mounted it ever. It was mounted on 3 tracked/wheeled/rail vehicles and moved very very slowly. So the incoming artillery strikes I am sure Longtom based.

Based on the damage per shell that the artillery strikes do I would say they're actually Thumper based.

[N0ni]

Adridos, on 11 March 2013 - 05:38 AM, said:

who would play as a mech role of which is to stand in one place, wait for TAG/NARC and then launch the missile/fire the cannon?

*Raises hand*

[Cairbre]

Joseph Mallan, on 11 March 2013 - 05:34 AM, said:

Long Tom Artillery Cannons. Ahem.

I saw that as well- was it deployed on any canon variants? I couldn't find a mech that used anything heavier than a Sniper.

[Joseph Mallan]

Not to my knowledge. Which is out of date. It is experimental so could be on a chassis in one of the XTROs.

[Congzilla]

Cairbre, on 11 March 2013 - 05:54 AM, said:

I saw that as well- was it deployed on any canon variants? I couldn't find a mech that used anything heavier than a Sniper.

It was never really used because on TT you could deploy a full Long Tom for less BV.

[sC4r]

all i hope is arrow 4 is not implemented as an weapon equipable for mechs

lrms as fire support already do the job well and having someone siting in the base with range about 3km that can one shot most mechs is not very good idea

as for long tom... i dont know if it was equipable by mechs but if it was then just as with arrow4 i hope its not implemented

[Redshift2k5]

They're poorly suited to direct mech combat, and a more appropriate use if for launching from off the map.