57 replies to this topic

[Teralitha]

Dennis de Koning, on 14 March 2013 - 12:51 PM, said:

We are currently working on slope degree limitation and relative ascension speed.
Once these fixes are made, the game-play will be effected quite a bit as access to steep-sloped peaks will be slowed, limited or cut off for many (or all) 'Mechs.
Have patience young Grasshoppers, we hear you.

Excellent.

[Megurine Luka]

I like Alpine a lot. I'll agree about the view distances though. Firing at where you assume shots originate from is a bit difficult.

[von Pilsner]

I enjoy ALpine, had some great games there.

I can not wait until they fix the draw distance.

[Hobietime]

El Bandito, on 14 March 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:

So funny that you can travel the same speed while climbing an 80 degree incline. So stupid.

Hills are suppose to slow your speed down considerably, the steeper it is. MW4 had implemented it, but it is not yet here in MWO.

Yeah, but at least it isn't as bad as Tribes: Ascend. When not skiing, your horizontal component was constant, and your vertical would scale to match. You could literally walk up hills faster than you could jet pack in some places. I love Tribes, but damn that is annoying.

Edited by Hobietime, 14 March 2013 - 01:13 PM.

[Merky Merc]

Map needs more cover. There are certain areas that become completely off limits if you're a sub 90kph medium and you want to not die horribly.

[Helsbane]

Yeah, I like Alpine, but why is it on other maps, I can't climb slopes to save my life, but in Alpine I have the powers of a Skyrim horse?

[Icepick]

-The slopes need a more "terraced" topography - I can climb an almost vertical slope, but slide to the bottom if I stop. In a lot of places, you have to either be at the top, or the bottom. In general, more rocky and less slopey.

-Need more sheer cover. That is, a place that, when harried by lights, you can keep them from getting behind you.

-More character. Alpine is a great starting place, but needs more wrecked vehicles, craters, and such, especially on the roads. It's just a tad boring after you have played it a hundred times.

-Other than rush capping and staying together, ther does not seem to be a lot of battlefield strategy to this map. Charge each other across a kilometer of open field seems to be the end of every battle.

Alpine just feels unfinished, like drawing a few stick figures on a giant, white canvas. It has great potential, just needs to be filled in.

[Wolf Clearwater]

I really like Alpine, the only thing that bothers me (other than the slope movement, already mentioned) is that one of the bases should move. I hate fighting over that same ridge between the bases in assault. There is so much nice terrain elsewhere.....

[Yokaiko]

Dennis de Koning, on 14 March 2013 - 12:51 PM, said:

We are currently working on slope degree limitation and relative ascension speed.
Once these fixes are made, the game-play will be effected quite a bit as access to steep-sloped peaks will be slowed, limited or cut off for many (or all) 'Mechs.
Have patience young Grasshoppers, we hear you.

Any plans of adjusting the game modes so resources are gathered more slowly and every mech that isn't a 100kph plus has an opportunity to go somewhere not E6?

[sarkun]

I absolutely love the map on the account of it being massively different than the rest. Both Cities feel similar to me, and the main difference between Forest Colony maps and Caustic is the heat IMO.

Then you have Alpine - which is not perfect, but it feels great to have an other set of challenges.

[Karl Split]

I love alpine, although I do currently feel the map is unbalanced. The side starting at the top does have an advantage over the side starting at the bottom unless the side at the top are total tools due to the large hill at f6 that can easily be reached and dominated by the side starting at the top

Edited by Karl Split, 15 March 2013 - 07:34 AM.

[Rayah]

My only issue is that everyone just runs up the middle, because flanking leave you open to cap from a middle rush.

I'm fine with this part, the more combat the better, the part that upsets me is the amount of extra space on the map that is hardly used...

[MoonUnitBeta]

Dennis de Koning, on 14 March 2013 - 12:51 PM, said:

We are currently working on slope degree limitation and relative ascension speed.
Once these fixes are made, the game-play will be effected quite a bit as access to steep-sloped peaks will be slowed, limited or cut off for many (or all) 'Mechs.
Have patience young Grasshoppers, we hear you.

This is so nice to hear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!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[Rayah]

MoonUnitBeta, on 15 March 2013 - 07:38 AM, said:

This is so nice to 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It appears as though you broke the page, good sir.

+1 cookie

[Chris Morris]

It's a great map IMO. One of my favorites. If you guys are not seeing enemies at range, that is a problem however (assuming that is not intended).

[Mechrophilia]

Timuroslav, on 14 March 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

Finally, I'd like to see Blizzard conditions...

Please no... We have enough vision-challenged maps already.

[Ozric]

I love Alpine, if we had a map choice function I'd be running it all the time (with a bit of Caustic/RC daytime). All I would suggest it needs is more detail, more finishing touches. Caustic was pretty bland when it was first introduced too and it's all manner of awesome now, so I'm expecting Alpine to follow the pattern. Roll on Tourmaline Desert.

[General Taskeen]

Big Maps don't work without respawn type game modes and longer match time. Warned people of this issue before. No Respawn is balanced only for the smaller maps.

Edited by General Taskeen, 15 March 2013 - 07:59 AM.

[Ozric]

General Taskeen, on 15 March 2013 - 07:59 AM, said:

Big Maps don't work without respawn type game modes and longer match time. Warned people of this issue before. No Respawn is balanced only for the smaller maps.

This is an entirely subjective opinion. I think no respawn works far better on larger maps than than it does on smaller maps. In fact, I'd also say that respawn modes suit smaller maps more than larger ones. But this is also an entirely subjective opinion of course.

[Bilbo]

General Taskeen, on 15 March 2013 - 07:59 AM, said:

Big Maps don't work without respawn type game modes and longer match time. Warned people of this issue before. No Respawn is balanced only for the smaller maps.

I think the size is perfect for 12v12.