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#61 IG 88

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 05:44 AM

View PostSifright, on 17 March 2013 - 04:47 AM, said:


you just told people to use lrms on a mech that can't fit tag.

You are forever not worth listening to.



lol you don't need a tag when you have 7 teammate

and I play a 6x lrm 5 + artemis with great sucess

CATAPULT CPLT-A1 29 / 19 / 10 / 1.90 / 37 / 15 / 2.47 / 10,312 / 26,371 / 02:47:12
LRM 5 20 / 16,890 / 4,620 / 27.35% / 01:54:42 / 7,690
LRM 15 21 / 6,690 / 1,635 / 24.44% / 01:49:22 / 2,665

sifright, you don't know what your talking about

Edited by IG 88, 17 March 2013 - 05:55 AM.


#62 Commander Kobold

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 05:45 AM

View PostGhogiel, on 17 March 2013 - 04:48 AM, said:



polls don't really prove anything because results are easilly biased by people who don't want their easy kills to be made difficult.

View PostIG 88, on 17 March 2013 - 05:44 AM, said:



lol you don't need a tag when you have 7 teammate


as the game is currently an LRM boat like the catapult/stalker would be making a very big mistake not to take tag.

Edited by Omni 13, 17 March 2013 - 05:45 AM.


#63 Psikez

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 05:45 AM

OP is top notch troll

#64 IG 88

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 06:01 AM

View PostOmni 13, on 17 March 2013 - 05:45 AM, said:


polls don't really prove anything because results are easilly biased by people who don't want their easy kills to be made difficult.



as the game is currently an LRM boat like the catapult/stalker would be making a very big mistake not to take tag.



lol lol lol ......

look am one of the most lrm hardcore player in this freaking game and i tell you, you don't need a tag its useless , and it don't stack with Artemis so your all wrong, + what can a tag do for you when you don't have line of sight, nothing...., all you need is a dedicated spotter that i always have because am never pugging with that cat but playing with friend that are really happy to jump in there raven 3l and spot/tag for me and I praticly always have a atlas/stalker guarding me

I almost finish all my match with over 800 damage, 1st of the team , and I dont carry a F* tag

all you guys tough about the a1 with lrm are wrong. build one and go play it
if you can't kill or get kill in the first 3-5 min you have no skill at all and should go back to srm

Edited by IG 88, 17 March 2013 - 06:13 AM.


#65 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 06:21 AM

Or we could... not nerf it and deal with the fact that boating will happen, get used to it because boating is a fact of life in Battletech?

#66 Commander Kobold

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 06:30 AM

View PostIG 88, on 17 March 2013 - 06:01 AM, said:



lol lol lol ......

look am one of the most lrm hardcore player in this freaking game and i tell you, you don't need a tag its useless , and it don't stack with Artemis so your all wrong, + what can a tag do for you when you don't have line of sight, nothing...., all you need is a dedicated spotter that i always have because am never pugging with that cat but playing with friend that are really happy to jump in there raven 3l and spot/tag for me and I praticly always have a atlas/stalker guarding me

I almost finish all my match with over 800 damage, 1st of the team , and I dont carry a F* tag

all you guys tough about the a1 with lrm are wrong. build one and go play it
if you can't kill or get kill in the first 3-5 min you have no skill at all and should go back to srm

actually tag does stack with artemis so you're wrong, if you play LRMs so much you'd think you'd know that :)

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 17 March 2013 - 06:21 AM, said:

Or we could... not nerf it and deal with the fact that boating will happen, get used to it because boating is a fact of life in Battletech?


Boating is a fact of life yes, but it should never be a one shot easy mode button there has to be some balance (weapon wise not mech wise)

#67 Oy of MidWorld

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 06:33 AM

Just remove two missile hardpoints...

#68 Commander Kobold

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 06:34 AM

View PostOy of MidWorld, on 17 March 2013 - 06:33 AM, said:

Just remove two missile hardpoints...


no because then there's no reason to take it over the catapult C4, better to just do something about the SRM dmg or recyclerate or accuracy or heat when fired en mass

Edited by Omni 13, 17 March 2013 - 06:34 AM.


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Posted 17 March 2013 - 06:36 AM

View PostOmni 13, on 17 March 2013 - 06:34 AM, said:


no because then there's no reason to take it over the catapult C4, better to just do something about the SRM dmg or recyclerate or accuracy or heat when fired en mass

So?

#70 Commander Kobold

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 06:38 AM

View PostOy of MidWorld, on 17 March 2013 - 06:36 AM, said:

So?


so you can't just nerf one of the variants into the ground just because one weapon system is working to well, you're basically saying lets take the A1 and turn it into a C4 without the laser slots.

(I hate the splat cat as much as the next guy, but I don't want to see it go the way of the BF3 FAMAS)

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 06:51 AM

View PostIG 88, on 17 March 2013 - 06:01 AM, said:



lol lol lol ......

look am one of the most lrm hardcore player in this freaking game and i tell you, you don't need a tag its useless , and it don't stack with Artemis so your all wrong, + what can a tag do for you when you don't have line of sight, nothing...., all you need is a dedicated spotter that i always have because am never pugging with that cat but playing with friend that are really happy to jump in there raven 3l and spot/tag for me and I praticly always have a atlas/stalker guarding me

I almost finish all my match with over 800 damage, 1st of the team , and I dont carry a F* tag

all you guys tough about the a1 with lrm are wrong. build one and go play it
if you can't kill or get kill in the first 3-5 min you have no skill at all and should go back to srm


Don't assume that everyone plays in a premade where your little friends carry TAG for you.

Edited by Cferre, 17 March 2013 - 06:53 AM.


#72 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 06:57 AM

Why does it even have that many missile hardpoints? Doesnt the stock version have all of two LRM racks?

#73 Sheraf

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:04 AM

A good way to nerf the A1 is bettering scouting, and shoot its ear off before it touch you, and don't run into A1 around a corner :)

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:06 AM

lets wait to the SRM splash damage nerf on the 2nd April then we will see how hard the Srm Catapult punch without splashing SRM6

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:06 AM

Well, once they fix the splash damage issue in the April 2 patch, I have a feeling you are going to see A LOT fewer SplatCats, as they just won't be able to dish out the damage they currently are, and this will also affect LRM's, so that should take care of the Stalker LRM boats as well. My guess would be that they want to take their time, and implement the fix properly, as opposed to forcing some half-assed fixed in the next few days.

The other thing the devs can do, and this may come further down the road, is to specify hard points a little more. The A1, for instance, could have 2 SRM harpoints and 2 LRM hardpoints, instead of 4 missile hardpoints. Personally, I'll wait and see how the April 2 patch works out, as the problem will most likely rectify itself, when the SplatCat can't take down a mech in one or two volleys.

Edited by Sierra19, 17 March 2013 - 07:11 AM.


#76 Sheraf

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:08 AM

Less fear of LRM = more people will ignore incoming missiles warning and tank the missiles :)

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:11 AM

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 17 March 2013 - 06:57 AM, said:

Why does it even have that many missile hardpoints? Doesnt the stock version have all of two LRM racks?


the dragon 5n has 3 balistic points in its right arm, but only 1 weapon too.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:11 AM

Bad players are a bigger problem than any variant I have come across. I dont even run across many A-1's in a night. When you boat something it leaves you vulnerable to another so I say work on more maps and L2P = better game.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:12 AM

View PostSheraf, on 17 March 2013 - 07:04 AM, said:

A good way to nerf the A1 is bettering scouting, and shoot its ear off before it touch you, and don't run into A1 around a corner :)


shooting off the ears is much easier said than done (those things have like 60 ish health 40 armor+whatever the internal dmg is)

#80 Sheraf

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:12 AM

Play and enjoy the game guys, instead of nerfing this and that :)


View PostOmni 13, on 17 March 2013 - 07:12 AM, said:


shooting off the ears is much easier said than done (those things have like 60 ish health 40 armor+whatever the internal dmg is)


It is easier done than said, if your mech build is ok with heat and have ok damage output, and engage it from a distance.

Edited by Sheraf, 17 March 2013 - 07:14 AM.






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