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[Nth Adonis]

Lately 50% of matchs are ruined by LRMs. You take just one volley and your dead (or close to it)so your whole team is forced to hide the whole match unless you have one of the 5 mechs with ECM. Big engaged battles are whats fun Im sure most would agreeIts just not fun being pinned down the whole match. I guess the guy with the LRMs might be enjoying himself if winning is more important to him then having fun or if hes worried about his Kill/Death ratio like so many people are lately. (since most matchs a boat gets 5+ kills.) How about get rid of Kill/Death ratio or reset it once Netcode is fixed.
So my recommendation is that only girls should be allowed to Cap and for someone to use LRMs or streaks they need to be under 10 years old.

P.S. Please fix large lasers they are ****. I can shoot a light mech thats standing still 15 times with 4 large lasers right in the torso and it barely makes a dent when he should have been dead on the first blast. Or I shoot an Atlas in the head and his legs take damage etc etc I have plenty of videos if you need to see it.

[Praeses]

Saying this is like saying war fps shouldn't have snipers because someone can kill you from afar, LRMs is a game's weapon, if someone use it it's ok, you shouldn't be in the open if you know someones is shooting you missiles (even if you have AMS).

If a game mode have cap as a winning option then you shouldn't get angry if someone use it to win, I think it's way smarter to win a match without having to fight, you could argue that capping in assault should be taken away because it doesn't give any rewards. In Conquest capping gives you a reward (you could argue that the mode should be revised) and again, it's a winning option so you can't expect that the enemy won't be using it.

About one volley getting you killed, maybe against a light or a low armor medium... I play a cataphract (with one ams) and never got killed by only missiles (except when someone go and missile shotgun me... but then you are receiving like 20 plus missiles at point blank )

And you shouldn't be saying that girls and 10 years old play that way.... you are saying that people who don't play the way you want are girls or 10 yo...

[Volthorne]

TL;DR:

"Someone dropped 80+ LRMs on my head cause I was out in the open like a noob so all LRMs ever should be punished."

No fragging thanks.

[Rhuid]

I haven't played a match in several days that allowed me to lock onto anyone with LRMs since the prevalence of ECM is so high.

[Fut]

Rhuid, on 17 January 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

I haven't played a match in several days that allowed me to lock onto anyone with LRMs since the prevalence of ECM is so high.

Spotters help, but if you're playing on your own (like I do) get yourself a TAG and practice keeping your target lit up while you rain fire down on them. It's always very gratifying when you manage to hit an ECM-Equipped Mech with LRMs.

[Carl Wrede]

The is one of the dumbest posts i have seen in a long time! LRMs are totally nerfed now with every mech sporting an anti-missile system and then we have the ECM on top of that.

LRMs are very close to useless now after the ECM introduction.

[Praeses]

Carl Wrede, on 17 January 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

The is one of the dumbest posts i have seen in a long time! LRMs are totally nerfed now with every mech sporting an anti-missile system and then we have the ECM on top of that.

LRMs are very close to useless now after the ECM introduction.

I use AMS (only one) and it doesn't stop to many missiles, the best way to not get shot is still getting your mech's *** behind some big rock or building

[StalaggtIKE]

This is proof that ECM is a failure. A team without ECM will die to LRM just the same. It becomes worst if that same team is playing against a team with ECM. They can not return indirect LRM fire, nor can they spot the enemy until within 200m. While the ECM team can spot them from 800m+.
So, all ECM does is allow some people to bend the rules; completely unfair. Instead:

• Increase AMS ability
  
• Decrease LRM damage
  
• Drop stealth ability of ECM (it's supposed to be for information warfare only)
  
• Add stealth armor and null signature.

Edited by StalaggtIKE, 17 January 2013 - 01:35 PM.

[Carl Wrede]

Praeses, on 17 January 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

I use AMS (only one) and it doesn't stop to many missiles, the best way to not get shot is still getting your mech's *** behind some big rock or building

AMS is fine actually, its the ECM that makes LRMs obsolete.
Best way not to get shot is under ECM cover.. not that many even takes LRMs to battle anymore.

[Praeses]

Carl Wrede, on 17 January 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

AMS is fine actually, its the ECM that makes LRMs obsolete.
Best way not to get shot is under ECM cover.. not that many even takes LRMs to battle anymore.

I don't know, a solid wall feels safer than a (usually) tiny mech

[Garrath]

Volthorne, on 17 January 2013 - 12:28 PM, said:

TL;DR:

"Someone dropped 80+ LRMs on my head cause I was out in the open like a noob so all LRMs ever should be punished."

No fragging thanks.

QFT

[ElLocoMarko]

I've seen a lot more missiles in the sky's since the patch on Jan 15.

I don't know if it is the TAG bonus or the new range and target decay modules or all those flying spiders with TAG? ... none of them sound terribly effective against ECM but I'm finding that even when I'm in an ECM light I have to hug a wall all the time or be dead. It isn't fun. I hope it is just a phase. I will not be your spotter and I will not be a boat. But for two days now the brawler/sniper roles seem to be diminished.

EDIT. Last night was much better. Must have had some unlucky drops against LRM happy pre-mades who ran the gambit well.

Edited by ElLocoMarko, 18 January 2013 - 01:19 PM.

[Nth Adonis]

I didnt say get rid of them I said they wernt any fun. I may not be a war expert like Praeses or Carl Wrede but I am a former U.S. Marine and know better to hang out in the open and my post explained that where I said being pinned down a whole match is no fun.
When I made comment about Streaks and LRMs being for 10 years old I didnt really mean it I was just flaming a bit because even thou I am a noob I will crush any streaker with a couple med lasers once netcode is fixed.

Also great post StalaggtIKE those seem very good ideas and ElLocoMarko understands the spirit of what I was trying to say.

Edited by Dixie Normiss, 17 January 2013 - 02:48 PM.

[Praeses]

Dixie Normiss, on 17 January 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

I didnt say get rid of them I said they wernt any fun. I may not be a war expert like Praeses or Carl Wrede but I am a former U.S. Marine and know better to hang out in the open and my post explained that where I said being pinned down a whole match is no fun.
When I made comment about Streaks and LRMs being for 10 years old I didnt really mean it I was just flaming a bit because even thou I am a noob I will crush any streaker with a couple med lasers once netcode is fixed.

Also great post StalaggtIKE those seem very good ideas and ElLocoMarko understands the spirit of what I was trying to say.

War expert? xD

You will start shooting missiles mid-air when they fix the netcode.... riiiiiiight, because the missiles will always come in two's and always in a direct path so you can aim at them with ease

you deserve a Mo mo MONSTERLOL!

[Nth Adonis]

Praeses I could barely understand your last post but what I meant by "streaker" was the mech using streaks, not the streak missles themselves.

[Praeses]

Dixie Normiss, on 17 January 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

Praeses I could barely understand your last post but what I meant by "streaker" was the mech using streaks, not the streak missles themselves.

oh, that's right, I think you meant you'll be shooting down missiles mid-air, that would be funny

but you're still saying that even as a noob you will crush any streaker with a few med lasers, that's some statement!

[DeadlyNerd]

Rhuid, on 17 January 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

I haven't played a match in several days that allowed me to lock onto anyone with LRMs since the prevalence of ECM is so high.

3 tags.

But, do I smell a troll thread? And how is this not in general discussion?

[MQ9 Reaper Predator Drone]

StalaggtIKE, on 17 January 2013 - 01:32 PM, said:

This is proof that ECM is a failure. A team without ECM will die to LRM just the same. It becomes worst if that same team is playing against a team with ECM. They can not return indirect LRM fire, nor can they spot the enemy until within 200m. While the ECM team can spot them from 800m+.
So, all ECM does is allow some people to bend the rules; completely unfair. Instead:

• Increase AMS ability
  
• Nullify LRM damage
  
• Drop stealth ability of ECM (it's supposed to be for information warfare only)
  
• Add stealth armor and null signature.

dont forget pillows to hit eachother with so its more newbie friendly

[RussianWolf]

watch some of the youtube vids of MWO combat. Some of these guys aren't here for fun, they are here for....... I don't know what.


"Okay guys, Focus fire on alpha"

boom boom boom

"Bravo"

boom boom boom

"Charlie, no, Foxtrot"

boom boom boom

honestly that doesn't sound like fun to me. I'd rather be seeing how I stack up against someone else, not if I can organize a team to focus on one target (I do that kind of work enough in the real world). Anyone can do the later, takes more skill to do well at the former.

Edited by RussianWolf, 17 January 2013 - 08:56 PM.

[focuspark]

LRM should attack the location the target was at when fired without LOS. If the target has moved the missiles should miss. This means slow 'mechs get hammered, fast ones do not. LRM fired with LOS should work like SRM do now but with massive range to them and a really wide shotgun spread (Artemis tightening it up).

This would allow indrect fire without making LRM OP.

ECM needs to stop being a stealth suite and be reduced to only affecting 'mechs within its radius. It makes NO sense that my sensors are jammed because the guy I'm trying to sense is being jammed. ECM should have zero impact on 'mechs outside the 180m radius.