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[Buckminster]

The UAC has a slightly longer range, takes up one more space and one more ton, and can "double tap". You can fire a second shot during the cool down period, but it has a 20% chance of jamming.

So UACs can put a lot more shots down range in a given time period, but there is a gamble.

[Sug]

Xarian, on 15 March 2014 - 01:56 PM, said:

The lasers are nice so you don't have to sit around and do nothing (or waste ammo) when you and your buddies are being harassed by a spider or three.

If you hit them the ammo is not wasted : /

Buckminster, on 15 March 2014 - 06:25 PM, said:

So UACs can put a lot more shots down range in a given time period, but there is a gamble.

Yeah definitely need to shot and duck with UACs. If you lead the charge you're gonna find yourself out in front with jammed weapons pretty quickly.

[ELITE SABER]

I run an A and an S

My A runs Quad streaks + 3 ton ammo, 2 machine guns + 1 ton ammo, a tag and med pulse laser, 2 cases either torso.I am running a STD 275 engine + 7 single heat sinks getting a heat mgmt. of 1.46.Max armour, no endosteel or armour upgrades and you will have 1 ton left over.

My S runs Quad Ac2s + 5 ton ammo, 2 med lasers. I am running an XL 280 + 4 single heats and 304 armour used (chose your own areas to max out). No endosteel or armour upgrades. Be warned heavy Dakka Dakka.

[Buckminster]

How much luck do you have with your A? I'd think that 4 SSRMs and a MPL would be kind of lacking, especially in a mech the size and weight of a Jager. Also, do you run BAP and Artemis?

I know that DHS will be a huge upgrade once you get it, it'll free up 7 tons do add other stuff, but finding 1.5mil C-bills floating around isn't always easy.

[Plaguetongue]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a0ff04c77d09c8f

better heat efficency and faster one =)

[Hiii Power]

Plaguetongue, on 14 April 2014 - 10:00 AM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a0ff04c77d09c8f

better heat efficency and faster one =)

Leg armor to 29 (with 20 armor you get legged very fast)
Strip the arms armor to 31 (arms hard to hit)

Edited by Hiii Power, 22 April 2014 - 01:11 AM.

[kesuga7]

93.2 kph - 1 AC 10 - 45 shots
6 medium lasers - 18 doubles
384 armour
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ab4f46e14235286

looks fun on paper

[daehawk]

Im running a DD right now with

300 Xl
2 LBX10
4 MG
2 ML

Fun build but I need to get in close. tears stuff apart. Im considering changing out the 2 LBX10 and testing a pair of AC20.

If I could spare 0.5 weight Id replace the 2 ML with 2 MPL

Edited by daehawk, 01 May 2014 - 11:55 AM.

[daehawk]

In my last match a Atlas came roaring around the corner but after 3 salvos it was dead. next up was a Orion or something big and I klled it with 2 shots to the legs.

this double barreled LBX10 setup wit h4 mgs is working well. Ive not tested the dual AC20 build yet cause this one is so damaging and fun.

[Hiii Power]

daehawk, on 05 May 2014 - 07:22 AM, said:

In my last match a Atlas came roaring around the corner but after 3 salvos it was dead. next up was a Orion or something big and I klled it with 2 shots to the legs.

this double barreled LBX10 setup wit h4 mgs is working well. Ive not tested the dual AC20 build yet cause this one is so damaging and fun.

LXB can't **** with AC20^^

but you got to chainfire the ac20 now

[ramp4ge]

Just bought a DD and I've been running it with 2 AC/2s, 2 AC/5s and generally been enjoying it.

I'm thinking about trying this build, tho.

How horrible is it?

[Barkem Squirrel]

So what are we seeing now in May 2014.

Jagermech A
Mix of LRM 15, 10 and 5's. with ML's or one tag. Some times with MG's for when you run out of LRM ammo just to have Dakka the ones that survived the LRMing to death.

Some times 4 SSRMs with maybe some AC's or MG's with LL instead of ML.

SRM 6 splat jager. with MPL's or ML's and MG's to taste.

Jagermech S
4 AC 5's, or the hammer.

2 AC 5's, 2 AC 2's, 2 ML's or 2 SL's One note, this does not melt an atlas armor as much as before and you will run out of AC 5 ammo faster than the AC 2 ammo since the AC 2 nerf in late April 2014.

Quad AC 2 and laugh in the face of ghost heat with a micro or chain fire.

Jagermech DD

6 MG's, with LPLs, LL, ERLL, ERPPC or PPC's.

LBX 10 with 4 MG's and 2 ML's


Fire Brand
2 AC 5 or 2 UAC 5's with 6 ML's or 4 SL's with 2 ML's remaining in the arms.

Rifleman build. 2 LL's, 2 AC 5's, 2 ML's

2 PPC's, 2 MG's, 4 ML's

2 MG's, 6 SPL's or 6 ML's with a 340 standard engine and all the heatsinks that you can fit.


some common builds for all the Jager's.
2 AC 20's with the option of 2 ML's or 2 SL's
dual gauss with the option of 2 ML's or 2 SL's
then there are the non asymmetric builds and I can go on and on about those.

Edited by Barkem Squirrel, 05 May 2014 - 09:14 AM.

[ramp4ge]

I tried the 4x AC/5 build I paper-built above. I can't use an XL with my Jager. Even max-armored, the left and right torsos seem to be far too easily destroyed while the rest of the 'mech's in relatively solid condition. Died 4 times with yellow/orange armor in other critical areas (armor, not internals) and a dead left/right torso.

Thinking about trying this one next.

[Buckminster]

Hiii Power, on 05 May 2014 - 08:04 AM, said:

LXB can't **** with AC20^^

but you got to chainfire the ac20 now

I prefer the 2xLBX 4xMG build over twin AC/20s any day. Sure, the AC/20 build has that punch, but it also has that "target me in the face from long range" effect that seems to get me killed faster than I can return the favor.

ramp4ge, on 05 May 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

I tried the 4x AC/5 build I paper-built above. I can't use an XL with my Jager. Even max-armored, the left and right torsos seem to be far too easily destroyed while the rest of the 'mech's in relatively solid condition. Died 4 times with yellow/orange armor in other critical areas (armor, not internals) and a dead left/right torso.

Thinking about trying this one next.

It's a risk/reward thing. I run XLs in all my Jagers, and while I certainly die from ST shots a lot, the increased firepower makes up for it. That quad AC/5 is a beast, and even with an XL I could only manage 7 tons of ammo, which just isn't always enough. Dropping in a STD engine would make it way too slow.

I know a lot of people say to drop the 4th AC and just run three, but I probably only chain fire about half the time, I'm usually shooting all four, or shooting the pair that isn't blocked by cover. Dropping to three reduces my alpha by 25%, and if I'm firing per arm one arm loses 50% of it's damage potential. I'd rather be a little slower and pack the punch.

Edit: I've also just recently discovered the joy of holding the alpha and chainfire weapon groups while firing. My biggest gripe with chainfire was that three AC5s chainfires just as fast as four, so you're essentially not using one of the ACs. But by holding doen the alpha fire weapon group, it mixes in that 4th AC. So you get that nice consistent chainfire, with an additional shot mixed in every three shots. It just rips stuff up.

And oddly enough, heat just still isn't an issue. I only have 10 DHS, and I decided to go to terra therma to play around. Consistently firing all 4 ACs chained (like above) goes through about 130 rounds before you overheat. If you need to fire that often for that long, heat is the least of your issues.

Edited by Buckminster, 07 May 2014 - 05:30 AM.

[Lysander Davion]

The second mech I bought on here was A JM6-DD So far its the mech i played the most matches with. First build was with 2x uac5 4mg and 2 flamers and lots of ammo. I had lots of fun with it. then i switched the flamers with med pulse lasers. then tried 2 lbx10 instead of the uac5. in all configurations i like the potantial as a brawler. with the lbx10 and the 4 mg i earn a lot of component destructions and if you sneak on an assault from behind (naughty naughty) and hit them with the mg they tend to ignore you because they think u are a light until u play a melody of death with the lbxes..

I also tried the JM6-DD with 6mg and two LPL. Its amazig how fast u can get down enemies with that build if you manage to come close enough. but its a kill thief build... and I found it unfair stealing kills hence i dont use this build much...

I never tried AC40 or DualGauss builds and i dont dare to try because i dont see a challenge playing with those...

All in all i must say beside the Firestarter the Jaegermech is my favourite mech.

[BigFatGator]

Just did a match with 2AC10, 4ML, STD250 -S. Had three other Jagers on my team, all running something like this build as well. See more 2AC10 or LBX builds now than 2AC20.

[Tzion]

I run the DD and I've run the common dual AC20 build but I recently switched to the following:

Stock engine
Dual LB-10X
4 MGs
2 ML

Maxed out armor. This thing is actually pretty effective at range even. Though you do have to be careful when you fire at the enemy since its possible to accidently spray your team mates also. The DPS on my according to smurfys is a little over 10. I also made sure to max it out with ammo for the 10X.

[Galathon Redd]

I've been having a lot of fun being cheesy and sleazy in an old classic JM6-DD build:

[Hiii Power]

AC40 still a beast

[151st Light Horse Regiment]

Bumping this thread.

Whats the best builds these days with the DD?

I've been runninx 2x AC10, 1ML 1 LL. Quite fun but I need a change. Tried 4x AC5 and got derped. Gonna try the 2x LB suggested earlier.