849 replies to this topic

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

daemur, on 20 March 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

Who is this 3rd person?

He's THAT guy. The one NO ONE wants around, but he's still there.

He's THAT guy, that you bring in to attract more potential customers to try and expand your player base. But he instead is SO obnoxious since he's THAT guy, that he chases off your current loyal playerbase. So you instead wind up with no playerbase, because the one's that didn't want him around said "F*ck it," and the players that would be attracted by 3rd person don't have the motorskills to put on their own pants.

[MegaBusta]

daemur, on 20 March 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

Who is this 3rd person?

Some guy who keeps going places where he isn't wanted.

Vermaxx, on 20 March 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

Then maybe more of the 'hardcore' fans should have paid money. No, I'm not digging you. I'm digging the people who sit there admitting they've paid zero so far and complain about everything PGI does. PGI is a business, with evil overlord businesses who want to make money off Mechwarrior. Bosses do not care about IPs, or fans, or legacies. They care about bonuses. Bonuses come from financially successful products. If people wanted the true-to-legacy game, more of them probably should have paid. PGI's evil overlords went the way of the most likely payout.

PGI got about 5 million USD gross off of the founder's program. Now if someone wants to point me to the contrary, feel free to do so and I'll shut up. But it seems IGP put a significant portion of those funds (which founders expected to be used on making MWO good) into supplementing Mechwarrior Tactics, a pretty (lol) looking Megamek with an off-putting booster pack system, and Sins of a Dark Age, which basically amounts to a dota clone in an already oversaturated market (honestly, they expect to compete with DotA 2 and LoL? waste of time and resources).

So instead of one good game, we get three ones that are mediocre at best. Should have used the money to expand the studio so they can increase their development pace.

Edited by MegaBusta, 20 March 2013 - 08:02 PM.

[Infernus1986]

Vermaxx, on 20 March 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

Then maybe more of the 'hardcore' fans should have paid money.

Wait what
Wasn't the 5+ Mill from founders money or does that not count.

[FupDup]

QuantumButler, on 20 March 2013 - 07:40 PM, said:

Unfortunately, that's the CoD playerbase.

While I don't particularly want MW4's poptart wars to happen again, it's noteworthy that CoD is a first-person game.

Edited by FupDup, 20 March 2013 - 07:55 PM.

[Acid Phase]

NKAc Street, on 20 March 2013 - 07:38 PM, said:

If they go 3rd person only, that will be the last day I play.

Agreed. Absolutely and utterly game breaking...and flat out PGI will lose a long time follower. NO MONEY FOR YOU!

[Rozav]

Even with all the kiddie controls that's already implemented and will be implemented, it still won't equate to experience and the thrill of 1st person cockpit combat.

I'll still fight, because I've been here since closed beta, and will adapt to remain the hunter, not the prey.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

NKAc Street, on 20 March 2013 - 07:38 PM, said:

If they go 3rd person only, that will be the last day I play.

they rather obviously dont give a ****.
Our money doesnt spend as well

[El Penguin]

Just when the battle was over against blatant p2w consumables... the 3rd person threat has been called to rise, a new battle awaits ahead as we must strike it down before it hatches from its eggs

[Vassago Rain]

Infernus1986, on 20 March 2013 - 07:53 PM, said:

Wait what
Wasn't the 5+ Mill from founders money or does that not count.

They needed that to fund this masterpiece.

[Davers]

Rikard Mauer, on 20 March 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

I worded it poorly.

In what manner do you believe third person can be implemented without providing an advantage over first person while also not being completely pointless?

Well, if your view was restricted to what you can actually see out your cockpit? All the mechs just appearing next to you would be so annoying everyone would just turn it off.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Tennex, on 20 March 2013 - 07:39 PM, said:

give it a shot. they can always take it out.

i hope they don't screw up tho.

Riiiight... like ECM?

[darkkterror]

I can imagine that guy getting twitter bombed if third person view gets implemented.

[Mazzyplz]

game situation is pretty worrying; i wonder... if people made a mediatic fuss about simcity;

if things keep going this way maybe we should boycott the game by talking to game news outlets; so that the rep is so negative there would be a severe lack of new players joining

[Josef Nader]

Vermaxx, on 20 March 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

Then maybe more of the 'hardcore' fans should have paid money.

I'm sorry dude, but your argument is totally invalid

This is from the founders ALONE. More than enough to fund the entire production of the game. Fans are holding this game up. Fans are the only ones really interested in this franchise. If you don't pander to fans, you're going to ruin your profit potential. Plain and simple.

Your average console chucklenut isn't going to be attracted to Mechwarrior. It's too slow, too deep, and too complex for him to be interested in it. This is a simple fact. The fans of the franchise are going to be your core. Milk them for all they're worth.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Vassago Rain, on 20 March 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:

They needed that to fund this masterpiece.

I'm convinced that MWO and MWT are still just cash grabs to garner more money for another project.

[jakucha]

Wait guys, they might mean UAV with command view or something. Regardless, stop whining until we actually have details.

Edited by jakucha, 20 March 2013 - 07:58 PM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

benth, on 20 March 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

We tried to stop them.

We tried to tell others what they would do.

It seems we've failed.

PGI is going back on their word. On Coolant. On Golden Ammo. Third person.

Even if they come out to deny Garth's comment and this twitter post, why should we believe them?

Game over man, Game over.

[valkyrie]

Rozav, on 20 March 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:

I'll still fight, because I've been here since closed beta, and will adapt to remain the hunter, not the prey.

So in other words, you're just going to start using 3rd person as well so you can get that situational awareness advantage over cockpit jockeys.

Cool story bro. Why don't you just save yourself some time and go play MW4 some more?

[Tarman]

Mazzyplz, on 20 March 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:

game situation is pretty worrying; i wonder... if people made a mediatic fuss about simcity;

if things keep going this way maybe we should boycott the game by talking to game news outlets; so that the rep is so negative there would be a severe lack of new players joining

They apparently do not need help in the Shooting Their Own Foot department. That area seems fully staffed. If true=dead worthless game. If false=needless poosticking. Neither of these things is productive or inspiring.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

Josef Nader, on 20 March 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:

I'm sorry dude, but your argument is totally invalid

This is from the founders ALONE. More than enough to fund the entire production of the game. Fans are holding this game up. Fans are the only ones really interested in this franchise. If you don't pander to fans, you're going to ruin your profit potential. Plain and simple.

Your average console chucklenut isn't going to be attracted to Mechwarrior. It's too slow, too deep, and too complex for him to be interested in it. This is a simple fact. The fans of the franchise are going to be your core. Milk them for all they're worth.

This. My roommate it is a "COD or bust" type and doesn't understand why I almost quit playing other shooters overnight. All other modern shooters are just CS1.6 clones. They want a simple, easy to play time sink when they aren't barhopping.