849 replies to this topic

[Kaelus]

jakucha, on 20 March 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

Yeah, because I'm a founder and everything. I'm using common sense. Getting nerdarged because of something very vague you read in a twitter screenshot makes you look like an ***** and doesn't help game development.

I'm still waiting for you to have common sense.

It's because we don't trust them anymore. We are the disillusioned masses that were promised things that were and were not going to happen and there only so many mis-truths you can take before you lose your optimism and trust. I am truly sad now.

[Vassago Rain]

Tekadept, on 20 March 2013 - 08:07 PM, said:

This is another Glaring example of PGI/IGP lack of PR/Community Management .. Something as polarizing as this should not be put onto twitter. Things should be be said offhand without an official word either yay or nay.

Something like this shouldn't be considered in the first place.

[valkyrie]

Josef Nader, on 20 March 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

We have numerous on screen hud indicators for that. A simple tutorial to point them out to new players would be more than sufficient. Introducing 3rd person to teach players about torso/leg orientation is like using a wrecking ball to swat a fly.

I like this analogy. You go "OH MAN THAT LOOKS SO COOL" until you realized you just knocked down your entire support wall.

[Rikard Mauer]

Davers, on 20 March 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

It would tell you where you were facing, compared to your torso. So useful for a new player.

That information is already clearly relayed through your minimap.

[Vassago Rain]

Kaelus, on 20 March 2013 - 08:10 PM, said:

It's because we don't trust them anymore. We are the disillusioned masses that were promised things that were and were not going to happen and there only so many mis-truths you can take before you lose your optimism and trust. I am truly sad now.

Yeah, this and pretty much every dev post they've ever made. They make grand promises, but give us oilrigs and take 3 months to lower PPC heat by 1 point.

[Tabrias07]

Nathan Foxbane, on 20 March 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

May I assume no one going nuts over this knows how WoT's 3rd person view functions and if applied to MWO would deny many if not possibly all advantages gained from 3rd person in a 'Mech.

We know how WoT works.

We've also had numerous thread and polls showing a VAST majority of the userbase does not want 3rd person in any way shape or form.

[Vassago Rain]

Thirdstar, on 20 March 2013 - 08:10 PM, said:

It's amazing isn't it?

And yet 'the fans' will erect a shield around PGI.

"Hey man, stop harshing their vibe!"

"Why do guys have to keep pointing out all the flubs marketing/PR makes, don't you love this game?"

I don't see a single person in here who's doing that, except the one shill who needs to earn their 90 cents for today.

[Acid Phase]

PGI just can't stop dissapointing. You would figure that by making, a simulation/first person game, then you would stick to that. If you purposely make a third-person game like MechAssault was, then stick to that from the start. Unbelievable. Make up your minds! I stomached MechAssault because from the beginning it was to be a different game. So I accepted it. But PGI keeps telling lies. They said no coolant and no 3rd person. Blatant Lies!

[LaserAngel]

Tekadept, on 20 March 2013 - 08:07 PM, said:

This is another Glaring example of PGI/IGP lack of PR/Community Management .. Something as polarizing as this should not be put onto twitter. Things should be be said offhand without an official word either yay or nay.

This is how I feel about it. I'm not going to get too excited when I've seen their e-mail marketing make similar mistakes in the past. One hand does not know what the other is doing.

[QuantumButler]

Rikard Mauer, on 20 March 2013 - 08:11 PM, said:

That information is already clearly relayed through your minimap.

Only about half the time though, since it likes to bug out alot and turn into rainbows or just a blank void.

[MrPenguin]

I'm literally drowning in mellow drama.

[Thirdstar]

Nathan Foxbane, on 20 March 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

May I assume no one going nuts over this knows how WoT's 3rd person view functions and if applied to MWO would deny many if not possibly all advantages gained from 3rd person in a 'Mech.

Hogwash.

3rd person view in WoT is a clear advantage and also created a storm when it was introduced in that game.

If you swing your camera around you can see an enemy tank come around a building, something that's impossible in first person view. You can even see over a hill without exposing your turret.

You've clearly never played WoT.

Edited by Thirdstar, 20 March 2013 - 08:14 PM.

[Tabrias07]

Acid Phase, on 20 March 2013 - 08:12 PM, said:

PGI just can't stop dissapointing. You would figure that by making, a simulation/first person game, then you would stick to that. If you purposely make a third-person game like MechAssault was, then stick to that from the start. Unbelievable. Make up your minds! I stomached MechAssault because from the beginning it was to be a different game. So I accepted it. But PGI keeps telling lies. They said no coolant and no 3rd person. Blatant Lies!

This. The design for this game is horribly inconsistent.

[Tarman]

MrPenguin, on 20 March 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

I'm literally drowning in mellow drama.

That's because you're from Sudbury. There's nothing else to do there except stare at a giant nickel.

[Thirdstar]

Vassago Rain, on 20 March 2013 - 08:12 PM, said:

I don't see a single person in here who's doing that, except the one shill who needs to earn their 90 cents for today.

Yeah, I will admit I'm responding in anger at the moment.

The shills get me really mad.

[QuantumButler]

Thirdstar, on 20 March 2013 - 08:15 PM, said:

Yeah, I will admit I'm responding in anger at the moment.

The shills get me really mad.

Such is life in the Inner Sphere.

[jakucha]

Thirdstar, on 20 March 2013 - 08:10 PM, said:

It's amazing isn't it?

And yet 'the fans' will erect a shield around PGI.

"Hey man, stop harshing their vibe!"

"Why do guys have to keep pointing out all the flubs marketing/PR makes, don't you love this game?"

You're doing what you're trying to preach against just in a different direction.

Edited by jakucha, 20 March 2013 - 08:18 PM.

[Thirdstar]

"Conquest Mode a mode that combines a ticket system (reduce enemy tickets to win), capture points and armed, functional bases"

*sigh*

Why couldn't we have had this?

Ticket system! Armed functional BASES!!!!

ARAAARGGGHHHH!

Edited by Thirdstar, 20 March 2013 - 08:19 PM.

[Davers]

Kaelus, on 20 March 2013 - 08:10 PM, said:

It's because we don't trust them anymore. We are the disillusioned masses that were promised things that were and were not going to happen and there only so many mis-truths you can take before you lose your optimism and trust. I am truly sad now.

So much good ideas in that article. Where are they in game?

Rikard Mauer, on 20 March 2013 - 08:11 PM, said:

That information is already clearly relayed through your minimap.

Does it? LOL I thought it only showed which way you were facing, not the torso twist as well.

[Nathan Foxbane]

Tabrias07, on 20 March 2013 - 08:12 PM, said:

We know how WoT works.

We've also had numerous thread and polls showing a VAST majority of the userbase does not want 3rd person in any way shape or form.

Ah I see I forgot the question mark on my post. Let me go fix that.
As for majority, the poll only covers the user base that actually uses the forums and decides to participate in that poll. Useful, but not entirely determinate.

Thirdstar, on 20 March 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

Hogwash.

3rd person view in WoT is a clear advantage and also created a storm when it was introduced in that game.

If you swing your camera around you can see an enemy tank come around a building, something that's impossible in first person view. You can even see over a hill without exposing your turret.

You've clearly never played WoT.

I have five tier Xs actually. And while I think it would need a great amount of revision to work with MWO the principle behind the limiting factors to the function is sound.