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[FerretGR]

MadPanda, on 21 March 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

I'll let you decide if LRM's are still worth keeping around.

So... because you can't one-shot an assault to the CT, they're garbage?

Much needed change IMHO.

[Nightcrept]

Legolaas, on 21 March 2013 - 07:24 PM, said:

It must´ve nailed you eh. Thats why it makes no sence to you probably

No I really don't get what you tried to say to know if it nailed me or not....lol.

[Aaron45]

FerretGR, on 21 March 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

So... because you can't one-shot an assault to the CT, they're garbage?

Much needed change IMHO.

Exactly thats what i try to tell those ppl who are habited to use an op build

Nightcrept, on 21 March 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

No I really don't get what you tried to say to know if it nailed me or not....lol.

Then forget it or re read it. or just quit the game

[Nightcrept]

armyof1, on 21 March 2013 - 07:25 PM, said:

I don't know what you define as lrmboats, but the Stalkers that are the most common lrmboats carry at least 60lrms. And I certainly would not run towards 80 damage and laugh while doing it.

I don't usually see many stalkers. Other then after this last patch I haven't seen many lrm boats at all.

[Skaroth]

MadPanda, on 21 March 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

I'll address you directly, but this one goes out to others too saying the same thing. Are you guys not understanding what happened there? I did not shoot "one volley", I shot five. So I'm not sure where you got that "2 shots" will now kill an enemy. If we are now assuming that it takes two similar volleys as shown here, that means it takes 10 shots to kill an enemy. Nobody in their right mind is running a 5x LRM20 stalker. That is a joke build made for one purpose only; to test out the extreme situation with LRM's, and in such an extreme situation yes I fully expect to wreck my target when conditions are so perfect for it. If anyone thinks it was easy before to run a joke build like 5x LRM20 stalker and totally dominate, you are sorely mistaken. That thing moves like a snail and gets totally wrecked by ecm and light mechs.

The conclusion should be clear from what you've seen here; LRM's are not worth their tonnage anymore. If someone thinks its a good idea to bring in a weak weapon and call it a "support weapon", then by all means knock yourself out. But for the rest of us who are looking for effective builds and weapons, having such a huge weapon type to be a lot less than optimal is a huge game breaker.

Would five ppc's have killed said cataphract in one alpha from the front?

No

[Nightcrept]

FerretGR, on 21 March 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

So... because you can't one-shot an assault to the CT, they're garbage?

Much needed change IMHO.

Sure if you never want to see any.

[Aaron45]

Nightcrept, on 21 March 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:

I don't usually see many stalkers. Other then after this last patch I haven't seen many lrm boats at all.

You just have no clue and open ya mouth or click anything on ya keyboard to express your anger while your op advantage is gone

Edited by Legolaas, 21 March 2013 - 07:31 PM.

[Nightcrept]

Skaroth, on 21 March 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:

Would five ppc's have killed said cataphract in one alpha from the front?

No

ppc's don't have the drawbacks either.

[armyof1]

Nightcrept, on 21 March 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:

I don't usually see many stalkers. Other then after this last patch I haven't seen many lrm boats at all.

Well they are by far the best lrmboats and certainly the mech most commonly used for that purpose.

Edited by armyof1, 21 March 2013 - 07:32 PM.

[Nightcrept]

Legolaas, on 21 March 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

You just have no clue and open ya mouth or klick anything on ya keyboard.

No apparently Im in a higher elo bracket then you.
Because lrms are useless. Only thing they have ever been good for was killing noobs and bad players.

[Nincompoopery]

I wonder how many of these guys who say "support role" or "they're fine" actually run with LRM boats. I'm guessing zero. They're too hard and fast in love with their "I win" gauss and PPC builds.

It is a plain fact that LRM the way they are now are worthless. You can hide, you can dodge, you can block their targeting, and you can destroy them. You can't do any of those things with PPC or gauss.

Edited by Nincompoopery, 21 March 2013 - 07:32 PM.

[Aaron45]

Nightcrept, on 21 March 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

No apparently Im in a higher elo bracket then you.
Because lrms are useless. Only thing they have ever been good for was killing noobs and bad players.

Whats your Elo Lrm pro bro?

Edited by Legolaas, 21 March 2013 - 07:33 PM.

[Skaroth]

Nightcrept, on 21 March 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

ppc's don't have the drawbacks either.

like overheating every alpha?

[Nightcrept]

Nincompoopery, on 21 March 2013 - 07:32 PM, said:

I wonder how many of these guys who say "support role" or "they're fine" actually run with LRM boats. I'm guessing zero. They're too hard and fast in love with their "I win" gauss and PPC builds.

It is a plain fact that LRM the way they are now are worthless. You can hide, you can dodge, you can block their targeting, and you can destroy them. You can't do any of those things with PPC or gauss.

Isn't that the truth.

Guess I'll just go back to my direct fire sniper builds for long range. I hate to though cuz they are just soo easy it drives me nuts.

[Nightcrept]

Legolaas, on 21 March 2013 - 07:32 PM, said:

Whats your Elo Lrm pro bro?

I don't know what my score is.

All I know is that i never see lrms unless I run med mechs which is my worst weight and therefore my loweest elo. In my higher elo weight classes I almost never saw lrm builds and they generally got eaten failrly fast.

Mind you I haven't played since the last patch and the lrm bug.

[Vassago Rain]

They look like the crit-seekers and support weapons they were always intented to be to me.

Are you saying the sacred lore and sarna are wrong?

[Nightcrept]

Thontor, on 21 March 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

they have drawbacks too.. just different ones

They are soo easy to use though and you don't run out of ammo. Aim fire bang.

[Sheraf]

the Wiki can't be wrong?

[Nightcrept]

Vassago Rain, on 21 March 2013 - 07:37 PM, said:

They look like the crit-seekers and support weapons they were always intented to be to me.

Are you saying the sacred lore and sarna are wrong?

lol...the old TT rules and game are hilarious. You know I think it's funny.

[Solis Obscuri]

Nightcrept, on 21 March 2013 - 07:20 PM, said:

OMG...he fired 100 missiles.

If he was even a normal boater with 40 lrms that mech would have laughed at him, ran up and eaten him for dinner.

If he had 40 LRM tubes, I'd hope he had some supplemental weapons in his loadout.

Also not sure I'd call 2x LRM-20s a "boat", at least not in the assault class.