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[Nightcrept]

mekabuser, on 21 March 2013 - 07:06 PM, said:

I felt guilty today trying out the stalker trial mech.. The one lrm 10 or 15 was just free damage on target. Getting my own locks btw. One lrm 10 on anything is easy mode. God help these people if they think missiles dont do enough damage. I guess they would nt be playing the game if there werent any lrms.
btw i think ill puke if i continue seeing people in game stating they are a lrm boat and to hold lock for them.. As if its difficult to get your own lock.. in a pug to boot.
pray.... there is never an alien invasion.. we will just be snuffed out

Uh huh. Because this game is oh so hard to play. This game is easy.

[Aaron45]

Nightcrept, on 21 March 2013 - 07:06 PM, said:

He cored him with 100 missiles. What does that say for the normal player who doesn't boat them?
It says don't use lrm's. That is the point.
Don't use lrm's.

It says the opposite. If ya have lrm 50 you need 3-4 volleys to kill a phract. Use them but you cant nerf ppl with OP Sheet anymoar . JUPPIIII

Edited by Legolaas, 21 March 2013 - 07:09 PM.

[Nightcrept]

Legolaas, on 21 March 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:

Exactly you got it. Using lazers and Ballistics are more Skill based Weopons. Sit and kill ppl is lame and only great for newbees.

Your ridiculous.
This game takes little skill. Which is why all the old guys play it.

Legolaas, on 21 March 2013 - 07:08 PM, said:

It says the opposite. If ya have lrm 50 you need 3-4 volleys to kill a phract. Use them but you cant nerf ppl with it anymoar . JUPPIIII

Lrms 50 is still boating.
You don't balance weapons around boating you balance the boat.

[KAT Ayanami]

WOW! Let me tell you something.

The MWO community is going down the drain. There is no need for such dumb and sarcastic comments each time you do not agree with someone.

If you do not think OP is right, comment your opinion and be on your way.

Tired of comments like: "OMG! OP Iz complaining because 1 millionz mizilez did not kill a mechathing! Lolz Back to my lagged raven"

OP has a valid point. 100 LRM should do 180 DMG (By wiki. 1.8dmg per lrm) and a straight shot right on the face did nothing.

He is NOT complaining about not getting a 1 hit kill. He is just saying that missiles did not even do half the 180 dmg he should have done.

You should not need Artemis or anything else at 300m people!

[Gaan Cathal]

Tichorius Davion, on 21 March 2013 - 06:10 PM, said:

Sacrifice most of our tonnage and abilities to bring our weapons to bear.

Catapult C4
STD 250 Engine
BAP
Sensory Module
4xLRM10 Artemis
6 Tons of Ammo
No JJ
Low Armor

Not only do I barely go 68KPH I have no JJ mobility. I sacrificed everything so that I could beat ECM. I sacrificed much to account for battles being short lived and being able to push out enough damage to support my team.

Erm.........put in an XL, then use the weight savings to compensate for all that stuff you're 'sacrificing'. Catapults have very XL-friendly side torsos, especially if you're using it stand-off.

Nightcrept, on 21 March 2013 - 06:23 PM, said:

This is a MMO.

No, it's not. It's an arena shooter. Like Blacklight, CoD, Counterstrike, Halo, etc.

[Alilua]

Only thing I've noticed is that light mechs are not taking enough direct damage from the missiles but are taking the full splash damage.

[KAT Ayanami]

BTW, I am guessing the DMG has been changed to less than 1.8. But it still did too little damage.

[Aaron45]

I feel ya "NON SKILL" Guys pains. Wanted to have a look into a Missile Whine thread. You are all here like a therapy group who need to whine. Need to leave now.

Love you PGI :*

Lrm /srm/ ssrm bobs will whine whine whine

Nightcrept, on 21 March 2013 - 07:09 PM, said:

Your ridiculous.
This game takes little skill. Which is why all the old guys play it.

HAHAHAHA

Edited by Legolaas, 21 March 2013 - 07:13 PM.

[Nightcrept]

KAT Ayanami, on 21 March 2013 - 07:09 PM, said:

WOW! Let me tell you something.

The MWO community is going down the drain. There is no need for such dumb and sarcastic comments each time you do not agree with someone.

If you do not think OP is right, comment your opinion and be on your way.

Tired of comments like: "OMG! OP Iz complaining because 1 millionz mizilez did not kill a mechathing! Lolz Back to my lagged raven"

OP has a valid point. 100 LRM should do 180 DMG (By wiki. 1.8dmg per lrm) and a straight shot right on the face did nothing.

He is NOT complaining about not getting a 1 hit kill. He is just saying that missiles did not even do half the 180 dmg he should have done.

You should not need Artemis or anything else at 300m people!

Warning y our going to get trolled by the skillz boyz.

Legolaas, on 21 March 2013 - 07:11 PM, said:

I feel ya "NON SKILL" Guys pains. Wanted to have a look into a Missile Whine thread. You are all here like a therapy group who need to whine. Need to leave now.

Love you PGI :*

Lrm /srm/ ssrm bobs will whine whine whine

You have no clue. Players who use lrms don't just use lrms. Get a clue. Most of us just like a balanced game were all builds are at least somewhat viable.

[Aerowix]

It's like blind nerdrage hate at LRMs in this topic. You do realise he is carrying 5x times more lrm than what a normal pilot does? Has anyone actually dueled another mech with 1x20lrm or 2x20lrm? You would lose every time Also dueling does not equal other players doing damage.

[armyof1]

I'm still waiting for the OP to put up an actual decent quality video instead of that mini gif where you really can't see what is happening. And I mean actually seeing what's happening, not guessing and filling in blanks by yourself.

[krolmir]

As posted prior:
For all the "my poor LRM QQ'ing","I can't one shot anyone anymore whilst herp derping" in this thread has anyone looked at the percentage values via in game testing, or Testing Ground. I have at least done the TG part,and tomorrow I will get help with the ingame testing

I.E. 3 LLaser shots is 27 damage (preferably in the leg or somewhere the missles won't hit), now shoot the same mech with 1 SRM 6 or LRM 15 which is supposed to do 12 or 15 damage with current values. Record the percentage lost with each of the weapon systems. Also, only shoot on fresh armor never the internals, restart TG if neccessary to do this.

Percentages to an Atlas D before, 3% for 3 LLaser shots, 4%-6% for a single SRM6 or LRM 10; after hot fix in the testing grounds 3 Large Laser shots did 3% damage to an atlas, the LRM 15 and the SRM 6 (one shot a peice) the average damage was 2%-4%.

Percentages to an Awesome Q before, 4% for 3 LLasers, 8%-14% for a single SRM6 or LRM 10; after hot fix in the testing grounds 3 Large Laser Shots did 4%, for one shot from a SRM6 or LRM 15 3%-6% was the average range of damage

The list can go on but why bother..... the simple fact was that the Splash Damage bugs were making anything 80 tons and down far more fragile than they should have been, while Atlai's and Stalkers suffered as well,it wasn't anywhere near as bad. The real problem is LRM boaters got used to face rolling their opponents, and now that they can't,they say its broke.

ITS A BUG,IT WAS BROKE TO BEGIN WITH...my condolances to those who wish to still abuse it.....

Are missles fixed in there current state, no they need work, and I'm willing to bet they will get it in short order.
Side note: LRM 40's boats with the splash damage bug, as it was, were hitting for 120 to 200 actual damage on average............
now I know I have seen some LRM 80 Stalkers so think about that...............

[Aaron45]

Nightcrept, on 21 March 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

Warning y our going to get trolled by the skillz boyz.



You have no clue. Players who use lrms don't just use lrms. Get a clue. Most of us just like a balanced game were all builds are at least somewhat viable.

Those Lrmers you described end in their Lrm 80 stalker or in their raven 3l after they get powned in row with their Non LRM Streak mech.

Cheers

[Nightcrept]

Aerowix, on 21 March 2013 - 07:16 PM, said:

It's like blind nerdrage hate at LRMs in this topic. You do realise he is carrying 5x times more lrm than what a normal pilot does? Has anyone actually dueled another mech with 1x20lrm or 2x20lrm? You would lose every time Also dueling does not equal other players doing damage.

Your seeing the part of the population who hate lrms because they think they are noob weapons. Many of them wouldn't mind if they were removed all together.

[Solis Obscuri]

MadPanda, on 21 March 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

100 LRM's stripped away his ~50 points of armor, oh I'm completely satisfied with that. Sounds totally right to me. I mean what the hell, that's only 50tons of weapontry (5x lrm20) and then ammo on top of it. Return is 50 points of armor damage? Hell yeah man!

(for the slow minded, above is sarcasm)

You also stripped at least another 40 damage from his side torsos by the sound of it, and tore into his internals a bit. I'm not seeing where that's low damage.

[Nightcrept]

Legolaas, on 21 March 2013 - 07:18 PM, said:

Those Lrmers you described end in their Lrm 80 stalker or in their raven 3l after they get powned in row with their Non LRM Streak mech.

Cheers

? That makes no sense.

Solis Obscuri, on 21 March 2013 - 07:18 PM, said:

You also stripped at least another 40 damage from his side torsos by the sound of it, and tore into his internals a bit. I'm not seeing where that's low damage.

OMG...he fired 100 missiles.

If he was even a normal boater with 40 lrms that mech would have laughed at him, ran up and eaten him for dinner.

[Aaron45]

Nightcrept, on 21 March 2013 - 07:19 PM, said:

? That makes no sense.

Then you have no clue bro. Just whine

[Nightcrept]

Your sentence didn't make sense. What were you trying to say?

[Aaron45]

Nightcrept, on 21 March 2013 - 07:22 PM, said:

Your sentence didn't make sense. What were you trying to say?

It must´ve nailed you eh. Thats why it makes no sence to you probably

Edited by Legolaas, 21 March 2013 - 07:25 PM.

[armyof1]

Nightcrept, on 21 March 2013 - 07:20 PM, said:

? That makes no sense.


OMG...he fired 100 missiles.

If he was even a normal boater with 40 lrms that mech would have laughed at him, ran up and eaten him for dinner.

I don't know what you define as lrmboats, but the Stalkers that are the most common lrmboats carry at least 60lrms. And I certainly would not run towards 80 damage and laugh while doing it.

Edited by armyof1, 21 March 2013 - 07:26 PM.