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[Mycrus]

Tabrias07, on 22 March 2013 - 07:41 AM, said:

I'd rather have a dead franchise I can look back fondly on than give someone money to **** that franchises corpse.

i wish i had said that... i'm troll juju is off tonight... tough to troll in 3PV...

[snowfalcon8]

zverofaust, on 22 March 2013 - 07:26 AM, said:

The FACT is most of you Founders and spenders have already peaked your expenditures in this game. Your in-game wallet is fat with hundreds of millions of C-bills, you've bought all the MC-exclusive crap you'll ever want, and PGI's income is probably at this stage bottoming out to levels not seen since closed beta. This certainly doesn't apply to every single one of you, but I'm willing to bet it applies to the majority of you.

Frankly put, the reason PGI isn't listening to you is because you already stopped spending money, and they need to exponentially increase their sources of income.

Man there are some people playing this game that dont really bother to read the post's that they reply to.
Now I've probley spent about lets see:$100 for the founder's+$450+since open beta and if PGI would stop making so many flip ti flops about issuse's and start fixing the issue's that need fix then my wallet would still be open and the outflow of real world dollar's for a game and community that i really love.

But Pgi have to go and listen to the people that dont even post in these forum's and do these silly thing's, well this is what is going to make MWO fail and not anything else.
so if you are going to be chipping in to the PGI sarley accnt then you had better match my contubution's +about $100.00 a mth that i would be normally spending on this game and would be happy to keep spending said money if PGI would just listen to there on poll's for the info that they need and not doing the thing's that they are currently doing

[Dishevel]

Gallowglas, on 22 March 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

So what you're saying is that you're going to predicate your opinion of the game and its direction based on the most pessimistic outlook of what MIGHT happen as possible? I really, really don't understand some of you people.

Think about what happens if 3rd person get more support from COD players than first.
How does that end up boding for us?

[Gallowglas]

Dustein, on 22 March 2013 - 07:50 AM, said:

My feedback: if 3rd person view sees live game play(even if I do not have to vs other who have it) I want a refund on my founders!

Isn't that essentially the same philosophical stance as asking for a refund because they introduced a map or game mode (which is optional, mind you) that you didn't like?

[Nonsequitur]

Mycrus, on 22 March 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

@nonseq - don't mind the carebear...

LMAO!! How'd you know I was a .....

Seriously, being a part of MC in EVE is totally the opposite of carebear.

[El Penguin]

Dovvol, on 22 March 2013 - 07:44 AM, said:

Did anybody complaining actually read the post? There is a part there that says, "Players will never be forced to play against other players using 3rd person."

As long as this stays the way they are saying it, who cares?

Almost like what they said about 3rd person view being added or coolant flush... We don't know for sure that they will not change things again. Wouldn't be surprised if they forced both views on CW and gave excuse like "It wouldn't make sense to have 1st and 3rd POV players fighting different battles and impossible to fight each other for specific land. So we decided it would benefit everyone to have them together to solve this issue."

It's been seen many times where game companys will change plans against there words to attempt to squeeze more money/customers. My trust for PGI has been lost

Edited by El Penguin, 22 March 2013 - 07:58 AM.

[Mycrus]

Iron Frost, on 22 March 2013 - 07:44 AM, said:

Don't queue for 3rd person? I absolutely detest the idea of playing in 3rd person as much as the next guy but I would love to see more players and more money for PGI to make this game great. I play racing sims from the drivers seat, full dashboard turned on. It really boils down to whether accessibility will attract more people who eventually turn to 1st person than 1st person players we lose from the current player base to 3rd person.

ahem... my tears are for DOUBLE TALK not 3PV...

DOUBLE TALK is OP

[Assiah]

KinLuu, on 22 March 2013 - 07:54 AM, said:

I am undecided.

I feel very bad about the future of this game, but I want this game to succeed. But I do not want it to be World of Mechs.

Then pull your support, continued support tells them that what they are doing is ok with you. If you want them to keep making "world of mechs" as you put it keep supporting them, because that is exactly what they will do, pull your support and you let them know instantly that you do not support this direction. If enough people pull their support for this, they then have to reevaluate their direction. If you just mildly complain but keep supporting they will likely ignore your complaints and only look at your money, thinking to themselves, he still pays, so he must not be that upset with our current direction.

[Whompity]

REFUND my DONATION? Really?

I guess the best way to convince them that they're not headed in the direction you like is to STOP buying MC, yes. At least, it makes the most sense.

Edited by Olivia Maybach, 22 March 2013 - 08:00 AM.

[Ihasa]

Tekadept, on 22 March 2013 - 07:12 AM, said:

I agree, I am not rich, but i have disposable income for my leisure time, and I consider my gaming time valuable so I am willing to part with my cash to get what i want quicker.

I Don’t want to Pay to win, I want to pay for convenience which is what MC is all about (Allegedly).

I bought founders, and I “foolishly” spent 30bucks on mc a few weeks ago, which I haven’t even used yet as I am disappointed with the same issues as the OP.

According to PGI I am not in their demographic so they don’t want my money even though I am willing to part with it, so I guess I won’t be giving it to them “At this stage”. Until they can address some of the community outrage.

I am not rage quitting, I will continue to play the game albeit less likely, I worked it out and PGI will miss out on around $50-100 a month from me.

Looks like Syllogy is offering to make up all our shortfalls so shall we start a running total?? Somebody please do the math for him.

Add me to the count. If I wanted to pvp in a 3rd person, power-creeping, pay 4 power game developed by third rate studio I'd go back to Star Trek Online. If PGI is going to act like Cryptic Studios, then no more money from me either, somewhere around $20 a month.

[Gallowglas]

Dishevel, on 22 March 2013 - 07:55 AM, said:

Think about what happens if 3rd person get more support from COD players than first.
How does that end up boding for us?

Why does it have to mean anything for their 1st person players? If people enjoy playing exclusively 1st person, I have no idea why PGI would remove that as an option. I don't even see a scenario where that scenario seems likely or even makes sense. The only potential scenario I see is that people stop playing 1st person and there is no player base to match against in 1st person. If that were to happen, do you really think the absence of 3rd person would have been the difference maker, particularly in light of how many of us rabidly prefer 1st person?

[Mycrus]

Nonsequitur, on 22 March 2013 - 07:56 AM, said:

LMAO!! How'd you know I was a ..... Seriously, being a part of MC in EVE is totally the opposite of carebear.

geez... i'm talking zverofaust....

[Tekadept]

Mycrus, on 22 March 2013 - 07:58 AM, said:

ahem... my tears are for DOUBLE TALK not 3PV...

DOUBLE TALK is OP

Agreed, this isnt about just One issue such as 3PV.

[rgreat]

As long as i never forced to play with 3PV kids - i support 3PV.

Pros: Will be less Rambo/Emo kids playing with me.

Cons: Split development?

Edited by rgreat, 22 March 2013 - 08:05 AM.

[Gallowglas]

I'm done even debating this. Some of you are putting your pitchforks in the air over some really silly stuff and nothing anyone says is going to talk you down from your rampant paranoia and pessimism. I'm all about accountability and objective criticism, but some of this fanbase is downright emotionally dysfunctional.

[Mycrus]

snowfalcon8, on 22 March 2013 - 07:55 AM, said:

Man there are some people playing this game that dont really bother to read the post's that they reply to. Now I've probley spent about lets see:$100 for the founder's+$450+since open beta and if PGI would stop making so many flip ti flops about issuse's and start fixing the issue's that need fix then my wallet would still be open and the outflow of real world dollar's for a game and community that i really love. But Pgi have to go and listen to the people that dont even post in these forum's and do these silly thing's, well this is what is going to make MWO fail and not anything else. so if you are going to be chipping in to the PGI sarley accnt then you had better match my contubution's +about $100.00 a mth that i would be normally spending on this game and would be happy to keep spending said money if PGI would just listen to there on poll's for the info that they need and not doing the thing's that they are currently doing

you know whale killing is on-going if snowie starting to complain...

compared to snowie -- i'm just a little whale...

Edited by Mycrus, 22 March 2013 - 08:15 AM.

[rgreat]

Gallowglas, on 22 March 2013 - 08:03 AM, said:

but some of this fanbase is downright emotionally dysfunctional.

Not only emotionally, man...

[Chris Morris]

Going to have to agree with the OP. I don't like where this game seems to be going. I understand that they need to make money and pursue the most lucrative markets, just good business. But I am going to hold off investing any more in this product for now (only spent $73 but I have only been playing a week).

Maybe there will be enough players to support a fragmented community, maybe PGI will add some nice simulation-like features in the future that will draw me back in. I'll try to keep an open mind, but 3rd person in anything other than the training grounds just doesn't sit well with me. Wallet closed for now.

[Ransack]

Nonsequitur, on 22 March 2013 - 07:29 AM, said:

I think a lot of Founders would agree with me when I say that most of us spent money on MWO because of the initial promises that they made. Now that PGI/IGP has the base and the momentum to get up and go, we, the Founders, are no longer the "demographic we're interested in".

I think that is what stuck in my craw the most. Seriously, like whiskey tango foxtrot? So, they are not interested in the demographic of the people who actually READ the forums, and provide feedback (positive or negative), but moreso in the people that "never visit, post, or read the forum content".

Interesting.

[Mycrus]

Gallowglas, on 22 March 2013 - 08:03 AM, said:

I'm done even debating this. Some of you are putting your pitchforks in the air over some really silly stuff and nothing anyone says is going to talk you down from your rampant paranoia and pessimism. I'm all about accountability and objective criticism, but some of this fanbase is downright emotionally dysfunctional.

yes its perfectly okay for a company to DOUBLE TALK...