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[HellJumper]

great work done

even though i got no idea what is this all about....

Prosperity Park, on 31 May 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

WAITWAIT..

Saturday, May19th you say? Wanna see something from Saturday, May 19th...?
http://mwomercs.com/...post__p__254084

what am i looking at???

[stukinit]

Has anyone else noticed that the picture filenames are 32 characters long, and at the same time the redeem code entry has space for 32 characters?

Just a little conspiracy here

Edit:

I.E. http://static.mwomer...3ECD0675CED.jpg

Edited by stukinit, 31 May 2012 - 10:15 PM.

[Naduk]

um park, what on earth is that mech in the background of that large picture ?
i don't recognize its profile with anything we have seen lately

[stukinit]

Naduk, on 31 May 2012 - 10:24 PM, said:

um park, what on earth is that mech in the background of that large picture ?
i don't recognize its profile with anything we have seen lately

Wow didn't see that until I tilted my screen!

*burrows back into sarna to look for something like it*

Edit:

It looks like a quad...

Edited by stukinit, 31 May 2012 - 10:44 PM.

[Hawkeye 72]

Mal, on 31 May 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

Except... converting that "IP Address" from the Artemis log doesn't get you that.. to come up with that UNIX time, a different number was used..since a zero was added on.. that's more forcing the "problem" to match the solution you want (in my opinion).

Yes this is true. However what is more likely?

A) Paul threw a random set of numbers down that spell '1337' in the beginning just to troll everyone
They are arbitrary numbers that mean nothing
C) They are arbitrary numbers that mean nothing but are related to a secret website launched and just so happen that if I add any other arbitrary digit to the end it produces a 10 digit sequence that when translated into Unix time give a date that is just 3 days before the launch of the Closed Beta, not to mention this time system is used by a seemingly random useless webpage. in all reality why on earth would they make mwomercs.com/heartbeat even available otherwise?
D) They mean something else.

While A does seem appealing, you could have changed just one number in that sequence and it could have given a date that was ten years in the past or thirty years in the future, yet by adding any random number to the sequence gives a date that is mere days apart from a significant date in the game.

I wasn't even trying to make these numbers work. I originally just figured out the heartbeat was a Unix timer and afterwards remembered there was some random digits floating around the website and decided to see if they worked in Unix time. I very well acknowledge that this is a stretch, but what are the odds this happens too?

[Evex]

Well its better then what I had guessed it to be. I figured the commands were being entered into a command prompt, and the numbers were some sort of binary code. Unfortunately without knowing the base I can't honestly translate the numbers. I was thinking they might decode into the model number to a battlemech, but all random translations have turned up bust.

[Hawkeye 72]

Naduk, on 31 May 2012 - 10:24 PM, said:

um park, what on earth is that mech in the background of that large picture ?
i don't recognize its profile with anything we have seen lately

stukinit, on 31 May 2012 - 10:28 PM, said:

Wow didn't see that until I tilted my screen!

*burrows back into sarna to look for something like it*

Holy **** I did not see that! Interesting!

[Orion Pirate]

Prosperity Park, on 31 May 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

WAITWAIT..

Saturday, May19th you say? Wanna see something from Saturday, May 19th...?
http://mwomercs.com/...post__p__254084

I see a four legged walker...

P.S. I like the IP numbers as someone else suggested to be Leet for Elite...

Edited by Orion Pirate, 31 May 2012 - 10:35 PM.

[Mal]

Hawkeye 72, on 31 May 2012 - 10:28 PM, said:

Yes this is true. However what is more likely?

A) Paul threw a random set of numbers down that spell '1337' in the beginning just to troll everyone
They are arbitrary numbers that mean nothing
C) They are arbitrary numbers that mean nothing but are related to a secret website launched and just so happen that if I add any other arbitrary digit to the end it produces a 10 digit sequence that when translated into Unix time give a date that is just 3 days before the launch of the Closed Beta, not to mention this time system is used by a seemingly random useless webpage. in all reality why on earth would they make mwomercs.com/heartbeat even available otherwise?
D) They mean something else.

While A does seem appealing, you could have changed just one number in that sequence and it could have given a date that was ten years in the past or thirty years in the future, yet by adding any random number to the sequence gives a date that is mere days apart from a significant date in the game.

I wasn't even trying to make these numbers work. I originally just figured out the heartbeat was a Unix timer and afterwards remembered there was some random digits floating around the website and decided to see if they worked in Unix time. I very well acknowledge that this is a stretch, but what are the odds this happens too?

A) seems pretty likely

In all likelihood, the heartbeat is probably being used for two things currently:
1) Synchronizing Beta Clients/Server to one time source (as I suggested earlier)
2) Providing the time for the timer on the /artemis page to work with to do the countdown and keep it from drifting.

Part of the countdown (at least, I assume this) is basically the timer doing quick math between 'now' (the heartbeat) and 'then' (when the timer ends).. I realize this goes along with what you suggest..but, I don't think it's anything other than a method of keeping the countdown on time..

[Naduk]

also has anyone translated the txt from the center ring on that picture?

[tynaiden]

tynaiden, on 31 May 2012 - 07:33 PM, said:

Returns the current Unix epoc time. Could be for debug or a return value for their (timed based) scripts.

Considering it appears the web devs updated the Artemis page, it may run a double check of time (from the heartbeat) to keep the countdown proper. A sync system as stated up thread is also a distinct possibility.

I have already back-parsed too many pages on here to see what changes were made to the Artemis countdown this time. It was in the first iteration starting the countdown from a specified time and date value.

[MacSquizzy]

Mal, on 31 May 2012 - 10:36 PM, said:

A) seems pretty likely

In all likelihood, the heartbeat is probably being used for two things currently:
1) Synchronizing Beta Clients/Server to one time source (as I suggested earlier)
2) Providing the time for the timer on the /artemis page to work with to do the countdown and keep it from drifting.

Part of the countdown (at least, I assume this) is basically the timer doing quick math between 'now' (the heartbeat) and 'then' (when the timer ends).. I realize this goes along with what you suggest..but, I don't think it's anything other than a method of keeping the countdown on time..

Judging by the /artemis page source, the timer is actually built into the page via javascript. There's also a few calls to javascript files hosted via static.mwomercs.com, but none of them reference /heartbeat in any way. If it is serving a benign purpose and isn't intended to mess with the tinfoilers then it like is simply to synch the beta clients or something else we haven't seen yet. It has no bearing on the /artemis countdown.

[Orion Pirate]

Naduk, on 31 May 2012 - 10:40 PM, said:

also has anyone translated the txt from the center ring on that picture?

I can only read some of the letters. Someone with photoshop can probably pull them out.

Caelen Rivers, on 31 May 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

Judging by the /artemis page source, the timer is actually built into the page via javascript. There's also a few calls to javascript files hosted via static.mwomercs.com, but none of them reference /heartbeat in any way. If it is serving a benign purpose and isn't intended to mess with the tinfoilers then it like is simply to synch the beta clients or something else we haven't seen yet. It has no bearing on the /artemis countdown.

heartbeat is used for timing, refresh etc. Prevents tampering if things are time stamped, or so I assume.

[Orion Pirate]

Prosperity Park, on 31 May 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

WAITWAIT..

Saturday, May19th you say? Wanna see something from Saturday, May 19th...?
http://mwomercs.com/...post__p__254084

Also... What I find interesting... If you look at nub nub, and nubnub profiles, they both have the exact same signatures, but why different accounts? *boggle*

[Damion Stranik]

A few theories


1. The static console uses javascript that many of us have read through and decided it holds few secrets
Facts:

• It utilizes an internal chrome file system and allows you to bring your own files into the system</p>
  
• No files by default have any contents
  
• We are logged into the terminal with nubnubs forum id
  
• Suspect #4 is Paul Inouye (4 is Pauls forum id)
  
• The only way for anything on the comstar terminal to be accessed by the servers back at PGI would be through some other web app or server technique that checks for the file systems existence and retrieves that information from the local machine. This is concluded after having done a reasonably thorough inspection of the javascript and realizing that the chrome extension built to install on your machine crashes.

2. The artemis transmission numbers appear to translate to a particular day during the unix epoch - chiefly May 19 2012 - the same nub nub releases a cryptic background image in the Desktop Thread with a number of puzzling idiosyncracies-

• The Inner Sphere is upside down from its usual presentation
  
• There appears to be text in the center near the comstar logo that I am having difficulty identifying. It does not appear to be any known Comstar or Star League motto after a brief search for such canon on Sarna.
  
• There is an unidentified large mech in the background of the image.
  
• The text posted with this image was "This may redeem but anticipate its redaction" this text is wayyyy out of place in the desktop thread and almost certainly a reference to redeeming a code in your profile and the redaction taking place to the artemis log.

3. Taking all of this together, my theory is that Nubnub is actually Paul. There is some relation to the image and it being able to be "redeemed." What exactly? I am not sure, but it seems very suspicious to have paul as suspect #4, a number that directs us to a day during nub nubs history when he posted his only posts, and then those posts conveniently enough being the aforementioned image.


There are a few other ideasI've been trying but none seem to have panned out so far. More information as people discuss.</li>




Should someone else happen to solve this with the information provided - good on ya! But let us know what the trickery was =)

Edited by Damion Stranik, 01 June 2012 - 12:00 AM.

[John Clavell]

Your not actually logged in under nubnubs account. That is just plain text shown when you run 'who' on the terminal.

[Damion Stranik]

John Clavell, on 01 June 2012 - 12:18 AM, said:

Your not actually logged in under nubnubs account. That is just plain text shown when you run 'who' on the terminal.

Obviously, we're not using a real console - just a poorly emulated one with javascript that anyone can disect. This means that since it s plain text being shown that somebody hardcoded that value. AKA. its not randomly showing you nub nubs forum id - its showing nubnubs id to everyone,

Edited by Damion Stranik, 01 June 2012 - 12:25 AM.

[tynaiden]

If you lighten the desktop image above it does make a 'mech watermark stand out. However it does not appear to be of a style like FD's current line of concept art presented thus far on this site.
The phrase above the symbol is "nolle (something)". I do not particularly know much Latin so I can't fathom much of a guess on the second word.

[John Clavell]

Damion Stranik, on 01 June 2012 - 12:23 AM, said:

Obviously, we're not using a real console - just a poorly emulated one with javascript that anyone can disect. This means that since it s plain text being shown that somebody hardcoded that value. AKA. its not randomly showing you nub nubs forum id - its showing nubnubs id to everyone,

Sorry I was not intending that to seem like you did not already know. But there are a lot of people read here who don't know anything about code seemingly, I should or worded it better.

Someone posted about this already and I think I agree with them. I think it's just out of homage to NubNub in some kind of twisted, funny way. Maybe it means more, he did post a screenshot that showed him accessing the site, though it could be doctored screenshot. The beta stats don't seem logical to me though, 99.9% US, 0.1% Aussie? No EU? Seems a bit odd.

[War Dogz]

Damion Stranik, on 31 May 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

A few theories

[*]The Inner Sphere is upside down from its usual presentation
[*]There appears to be text in the center near the comstar logo that I am having difficulty identifying. It does not appear to be any known Comstar or Star League motto after a brief search for such canon on Sarna.
[*]There is an unidentified large mech in the background of the image.
[*]The text posted with this image was "This may redeem but anticipate its redaction" this text is wayyyy out of place in the desktop thread and almost certainly a reference to redeeming a code in your profile and the redaction taking place to the artemis log.
[/list] 3. Taking all of this together, my theory is that Nubnub is actually Paul. There is some relation to the image and it being able to be "redeemed." What exactly? I am not sure, but it seems very suspicious to have paul as suspect #4, a number that directs us to a day during nub nubs history when he posted his only posts, and then those posts conveniently enough being the aforementioned image.



There are a few other ideasI've been trying but none seem to have panned out so far. More information as people discuss.</li>




Should someone else happen to solve this with the information provided - good on ya! But let us know what the trickery was =)

I am no expert on PS but i did dig this up and the center word is to parts No**** **********

Edited by War Dogz, 01 June 2012 - 01:04 AM.