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[Rippthrough]

CoyDK, on 22 March 2013 - 01:13 PM, said:

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WHAT IS THE POINT IN 6 BALISTIC SLOTS THEN YOU CANT USE THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a 6 ac2 build, with armor, no issues. Mechlab fail.

[CoyDK]

Rippthrough, on 22 March 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

I have a 6 ac2 build, with armor, no issues. Mechlab fail.

Stop lying.

[mania3c]

Yea..hate me because I like MGs.. but this build just works for me.. of course.. MGs hate is big one on this forum..but hey.. I have fun
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d4504df360ee674

[Ranzear]

Part of the problem is trying to fit just one weapon type, or trying to fit two of something for symmetry, or trying to fit only the largest things tonnage will allow. This is a terrible way to build a mech.

JM6-DD

Can also adapt this build:
JM6-S

If your brain can't handle four weapon groups and their overlapping ranges, don't play Mechwarrior.

[Mercules]

Ranzear, on 22 March 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

Part of the problem is trying to fit just one weapon type, or trying to fit two of something for symmetry, or trying to fit only the largest things tonnage will allow. This is a terrible way to build a mech.

JM6-DD

Can also adapt this build:
JM6-S

If your brain can't handle four weapon groups and their overlapping ranges, don't play Mechwarrior.

I like that build... Gauss for punch, AC/2s constantly annoying things, Lasers up close and when ammo runs out, and MGs just because.

[Alistair Winter]

When MGs are fixed, imagine the crits you would get with 2 x LBX10 and 4 x MG. Anything without armor would be stripped of weapons instantly.

Hell, even with other weapons, 4 MGs are a nice way of destroying weapons. In theory, if PGI had balanced them properly.

[CoyDK]

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Ranzear, on 22 March 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

Part of the problem is trying to fit just one weapon type, or trying to fit two of something for symmetry, or trying to fit only the largest things tonnage will allow. This is a terrible way to build a mech.

JM6-DD

Can also adapt this build:
JM6-S

If your brain can't handle four weapon groups and their overlapping ranges, don't play Mechwarrior.

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Ranzear, on 22 March 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

Part of the problem is trying to fit just one weapon type, or trying to fit two of something for symmetry, or trying to fit only the largest things tonnage will allow. This is a terrible way to build a mech.

JM6-DD

Can also adapt this build:
JM6-S

If your brain can't handle four weapon groups and their overlapping ranges, don't play Mechwarrior.

Naa I think I will stick with mechs that make sense, my +700 dam pr match Stalker fx. The jagermech is cuite, i kinda like it. gives me free exp sins the loadouts this "mech" can carry is a joke a big joke. Use it and your fantasy builds I will stick to good old superior firepower instead.

[Tickdoff Tank]

CoyDK, on 22 March 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

so you run 2x AC20 with around what 28 rounds? thats 560 dam you can deal pr match.... waue....

This mech is pointless

The Dual AC20 Catapult would disagree with you. And the Dual AC20 Jager is a solid mech, it can mount an XL and still use the 20s while the K2 can not. That has it's own advantage and disadvantage.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

CoyDK, on 22 March 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

And then you run around naked just wating for that hit to take out your ammo with one hit.... year...


Feel free to buy this mech, you will be nice easy free exp for my stalker... *GG*

Shut up. You clearly have no clue what you're doing.

JM6-S

Edited by JohanssenJr, 22 March 2013 - 01:51 PM.

[Gaan Cathal]

Walter Soebchak, on 22 March 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

I haven't build a bad design with this platform yet. I am a big fan, and have run 4x ac2s- 2xac2s and an 20, 2 lb10x - 4 mgs and a PPC.

[nitra]

I have been having fun with 6 mg 2 erppc build have. i got the pleasure of sawing of a trebuchet legs in mid air with them

sawing another lights legs with the mg's and stripping various mechs of all the weapons ..

i have seen the ac/12 builds and will probably mess around with those after i get some more cbills saved up to purchase what ever engine is going to be necassary to power the build.

the macro builds with the rapid fire seem particulary nasty.


but thus far i have quite a bit of fun with 6mg build but dont think that the larger weapons are not necassry to strip that armor first.

[armyof1]

This is about the best I can do with 6xAC2, can't say I would want to run it though

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f52b878b56876d9

[Mercules]

JohanssenJr, on 22 March 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

Shut up. You clearly have no clue what you're doing.

JM6-S

Whoa... fix that back armor. You have to get closer with those 20s which means you can be easily flanked and shot in the back.

armyof1, on 22 March 2013 - 01:55 PM, said:

This is about the best I can do with 6xAC2, can't say I would want to run it though

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f52b878b56876d9

Yup... that is what I put together only issue is if anything starts to get close. It's fine for shooting over someone else's shoulder in a support role, but once someone gets close you don't have enough damage to take them out easily, have to point your front at them, and you are too slow to get away.

[Dudeman3k]

lol hahahaha, wtf people?? I'm reading, "well you can still pack 2 AC20's!".. HAHA!!! these guys are missing the point.

the point is: With 6 ballistic points, you can not fill them with useful weapons. (the MG isn't useful, PGI is really bad at this whole "balancing")

I'm pretty sure the OP is stating how useless 6 ballistic points are if your going to actually only use 2 or 3 of them.

[Ranzear]

JohanssenJr, on 22 March 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

Shut up. You clearly have no clue what you're doing.

JM6-S

Not that I disagree, but 'says the guy using case with an XL engine when he could put that six tons of ammo in legs and CT instead'.

Dual AC20 is so uninspired though. The lack of range just kills it with the advent of Desert and Alpine.

Dudeman3k, on 22 March 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:

lol hahahaha, wtf people?? I'm reading, "well you can still pack 2 AC20's!".. HAHA!!! these guys are missing the point.

the point is: With 6 ballistic points, you can not fill them with useful weapons. (the MG isn't useful, PGI is really bad at this whole "balancing")

I'm pretty sure the OP is stating how useless 6 ballistic points are if your going to actually only use 2 or 3 of them.

"It has six ballistic hardpoints, I must fill them" is the most noobish way to fit a mech, ever.

Edited by Ranzear, 22 March 2013 - 02:02 PM.

[armyof1]

Mercules, on 22 March 2013 - 01:59 PM, said:

Yup... that is what I put together only issue is if anything starts to get close. It's fine for shooting over someone else's shoulder in a support role, but once someone gets close you don't have enough damage to take them out easily, have to point your front at them, and you are too slow to get away.

Yeah I wouldn't want to use this mech unless I had 2 Altas in front of me soaking up all the damage while I can fire away a little behind and above them. If you become the focus of enemies? Might as well get ready for the next match.

[TempestWolf1]

my 5 ac2 dd is quite fun... and can pull a 6 ac2 with an xl200

[Sheraf]

Jagger with 6 ac 2 gotta watch out for those 4 machine guns spiders

[Mercules]

Dudeman3k, on 22 March 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:

HAHA!!! these guys are missing the point.

Someone else is missing a point. That point being they have to have 3 variants. There are not a lot of variants for the Jager out there at this timeline point. This one has a similar weapons to many of the others. Basically the Jager is very typically 2 ballistic weapons in arms and 1 in each torso. So they gave one more energy and one more ballistic. Now they are at least different and maybe someone will come up with something creative OR some other weapon system added or upgraded will make 6 ballistic a golden choice.

[MileyCyruz]

What the hell is OP's problem? It's useless and point because you can't fit all the hardpoints? rofl..
You have the best weapon location with either 2x ac20, 3x uac5, 5xac2, 2xgauss+mls (you can fit all of those with max armor enough ammo to average 700-800 dmg per game)