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[Treye Snow]

Hey yall, been loving my brand new Jager since day one and I have to say, this thing is kinda nice when running AC/10's.

Just wondering if I can get some pointers on this Gauss build I was thinking of working towards.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...6bd3c6b305e02ef

I'm still fairly new, so I appreciate any advice and tips on this build. Thanks much!

[RickySpanish]

I'd lose some of that ammo personally, I used to run my Ilya with three tons and that was plenty to last to the end, especially with your medium lasers for backup whenever you've not got a clear shot.

[Mr 144]

I run an XL225, 5 tons gauss ammo, and 368 armor in mine....keeping the 4xML of course.

Absolutely painful to level up the pilot skills. If you have the patience, it's not a bad build. I don't have this one elited yet, and by god, it NEEDS speedtweak something fierce. I'm sticking to it, and hoping elite's will sell it to me.

Advice....level up in the standard AC/40 build, and swap to this once elited to try it.....I'm stubborn though, so doing it the hard way

Mr 144

[jakucha]

You could do with dropping a ton or two of ammo.

[Tennex]

the K-2 is a lot better for most of the builds you can do on the Jager.

its side torso profile is 1/3 that of the jager. your going to be getting your XLs blown out a lot

[Treye Snow]

I appreciate the feedback guys, really do!

This build is strictly something to aim for right now. I don't have the XL (And honestly that's what i need the msot feedback on since it's a ***** to farm for) and as far as the gauss ammo, I'm used to running out on fights with dual AC20s.

[MadPanda]

Move the ammo to legs. Gauss rifle blows up so easily, you don't wanna lose 3 tons of ammo for that. Remember that you got another gauss that can use that ammo too.

[Ralgas]

drop 1 ton of gauss ammo and beef up those legs son!! you'll be flat on your face to a missile salvo or 2 no sweat with only 20 armor.

[Mr 144]

Mr Terribad, on 23 March 2013 - 06:45 PM, said:

I appreciate the feedback guys, really do!

This build is strictly something to aim for right now. I don't have the XL (And honestly that's what i need the msot feedback on since it's a ***** to farm for) and as far as the gauss ammo, I'm used to running out on fights with dual AC20s.

You should usually buy engines in Heatsink threshold sizes if money is tight. I started with 6 tons myself, but really, 25 double gauss shots (5t) is fine, and where I ended up. with 4xML, you do have nice backup weapons. I can't stress enough how PITA slow it is though. If it's a choice between buying the XL, or farming other variants....buy the variants first..you really really want elite skills on this one. Good Luck!

Mr 144

[jakucha]

Tennex, on 23 March 2013 - 06:45 PM, said:

the K-2 is a lot better for most of the builds you can do on the Jager.

its side torso profile is 1/3 that of the jager. your going to be getting your XLs blown out a lot

Not true. I've been out-damaging and generally doing really well compared to a lot of K-2s I see, even with just 1 guass rifle. Jager is one of the best weapon swapping mechs I've played with, I don't use an XL though.

Also boost leg armor at least 20 in each if you can OP.

Edited by jakucha, 23 March 2013 - 06:59 PM.

[p00k]

MadPanda, on 23 March 2013 - 06:47 PM, said:

Move the ammo to legs. Gauss rifle blows up so easily, you don't wanna lose 3 tons of ammo for that. Remember that you got another gauss that can use that ammo too.

i disagree
keeping ammo with the gauss rifle means if your arm gets hit, there's a chance the crits will affect the ammo instead of the rifle, potentially giving you more longevity with the rifle itself. for that matter any time you're ever running a gauss rifle in any build, i would try to fill every single crit in whatever component it's in

and if you lose a rifle, you won't need as much ammunition anyways

[Treye Snow]

p00k, on 23 March 2013 - 07:14 PM, said:

i disagree
keeping ammo with the gauss rifle means if your arm gets hit, there's a chance the crits will affect the ammo instead of the rifle, potentially giving you more longevity with the rifle itself. for that matter any time you're ever running a gauss rifle in any build, i would try to fill every single crit in whatever component it's in

and if you lose a rifle, you won't need as much ammunition anyways

This was actually my assumption. On the wiki, it says -

[color=#FFFFFF]Each time the internal structure of a 'Mech takes damage, there is a chance that the hit will cause at least 1 critical hit. There is a 25% chance of causing 1 critical hit, a 14% chance of causing 2 critical hits, and a 3% chance of causing 3 critical hits (for a total of a 42% chance of any sort of critical hit). Each critical hit will randomly hit a weapon or piece of equipment in that location; the chance of a particular piece of equipment being hit is proportional to how many critical slots it occupies. Each critical hit damages the weapon/equipment an amount equal to the damage that caused the critical hit[/color]

http://mwowiki.org/w...-_A_Brief_Guide - Source

[Pygar]

Dual Gauss is what I run, but you aren't allowed to use that...please continue to use AC/10s with inferior range and damage instead.

Tennex, on 23 March 2013 - 06:45 PM, said:

the K-2 is a lot better for most of the builds you can do on the Jager.

its side torso profile is 1/3 that of the jager. your going to be getting your XLs blown out a lot

No, it isn't...in fact, the Jager is better for the simple fact of I can run the same Double-Gauss build on all 3 of my Jagers while running up my XP for elite perks, but if I flew a K2 I would have to fly 2 other Catapults that cannot have cannons at all and instead use missiles...and I don't like Catapults or missiles. The Jagermech is here to stay, and nobody gives a toss about the K2 anymore....get over it.

Edited by Pygar, 03 April 2013 - 07:43 AM.

[Spheroid]

Put the 260XL in and run it as pure gauss. That's the only loadout I use on my DD.

[Royalewithcheese]

I'd try to jam a faster engine in there so you have the mobility. Maybe you could downgrade those lasers and take out the two DHS? I'd also echo the "more armor in the legs" advice.

[Arete]

I would do it like this:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9f9a5bfab0856ef

225 for an extra built in HS and more speed. More armor in the legs. Dropped one ton of ammo. Keep the ammo in the arms, gauss ammo is great for critpadding the gauss rifle (less chance the gauss gets hit on a crit).

If you think 5 tons of ammo is not enough, learn to aim ;-)

[Lancer Deistler]

Spheroid, on 03 April 2013 - 07:54 AM, said:

Put the 260XL in and run it as pure gauss. That's the only loadout I use on my DD.

265XL (same weight, more speed)

Edit:
Just a little ad hoc build : http://mwo.smurfy-ne...11cb26bf9705493

Edited by Lancer Deistler, 03 April 2013 - 08:06 AM.

[Ph30nix]

Mr Terribad, on 23 March 2013 - 06:21 PM, said:

Hey yall, been loving my brand new Jager since day one and I have to say, this thing is kinda nice when running AC/10's.

Just wondering if I can get some pointers on this Gauss build I was thinking of working towards.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...6bd3c6b305e02ef

I'm still fairly new, so I appreciate any advice and tips on this build. Thanks much!

personally i think the ammo ammount is fine when i was donig a 2x gauss id haver longer matches where i ran out but thats something you will have to figure out by trial and error.

also you could dump the 2 heat sinks and upgrade engine. 2 heat sinks wont make a HUGE differnce and if enemy gets close enough that you have to use them then your already in some trouble. If you start overheating either chain fire them or stop using them and use the gauss only for a bit.

[Esarai]

A gauss Jager was the second build I did to the JM6-S after I got it. Personally, with that setup, I'd advise losing the energy weapons all together and installing a larger engine. The Jager, even at max armor, is still paper-thin, and your primary means of surviving in the sniper/fire support role is being able to maneuver and maneuver quickly. To that end I have no energy weapons, an XL300, and 7 tons of Gauss ammo. Also, do not skip out on the ammo. I have 7 tons and there have been numerous times where it's down to me and two other mechs versus 5 and I'm dry before the battle is even over.

Also, move the ammo from your arms to your legs and side torsos. Gauss ammo cannot explode; you're in more danger of a gauss rifle exploding and shattering your side torso. Your legs will also be behind cover most of the time you're firing on an enemy, so you won't really need to worry about losing it there. Also, this ensures that if one arm is destroyed (trust me, it'll get destroyed a lot), you can still use the ammo in your good gun.

Edited by Esarai, 03 April 2013 - 08:13 AM.

[Thuzel]

Just my 2 cents, drop a HS and a ton of ammo and put the difference in a significantly upgraded motor. It'll come with an extra HS, so your heat breaks even. All you lose is one ton of ammo and you gain 5+ kph and better turning speed.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...909f40fece0bac8

-- Edit --

And you might want to spread that armor out a bit more, you're really really light in the legs. If anyone paying attention catches that during a match (it's not hard to notice) you'll be dead meat.

Edited by Thuzel, 03 April 2013 - 09:19 AM.