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[Chazmatron]

Trying to get mileage out of my Founders Atlas:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...edb876275f111a9

Wish I had room for Artemis or more Heat Sinks, what do you think?

[Just wanna play]

KhanCipher, on 02 April 2013 - 02:06 AM, said:

AS7-D

when you thought a bad atlas build couldn't get any worse...

and yes i actually do wonder if you could do anything to "try" to "improve" it

not much can be improved with it set-up like that, if you put in regular large laserz that would work better at the ranges of the other weapon, you could either put in a bigger engine, that would also have more heat sinks and give it a 30% heat eff rating, or you could put in artemis, that would also allow a bigger engine, but not as big as without artemis
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...fec914d80ecf96d
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ffcaac20da6241d

oops, those are both the same thing, here is the one with Artemis
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...803c63c9aeed535

[SchwarzerPeter]

KhanCipher, on 02 April 2013 - 02:06 AM, said:

AS7-D

when you thought a bad atlas build couldn't get any worse...

and yes i actually do wonder if you could do anything to "try" to "improve" it

Well i would drop the LRM20 for 2 LRM15 and stick a faster engine and more ammo in it. With artemis there isn't a big diffrence: AS7-D

Chazmatron, on 02 April 2013 - 02:50 AM, said:

Trying to get mileage out of my Founders Atlas:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...edb876275f111a9

Wish I had room for Artemis or more Heat Sinks, what do you think?

Dropped the CT LL for 2 ML. Has the same alpha and should be more heat efficient. Plus you can have Artemis. A heatsink will only fit in there if you drop some ammo.

AS7-D

Edited by SchwarzerPeter, 02 April 2013 - 05:08 AM.

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also can slap in a 250 engine and get 27% eff with regular large laserz
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...924dda0a962ac18

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SchwarzerPeter, on 02 April 2013 - 04:22 AM, said:

Well i would drop the LRM20 for 2 LRM15 and stick a faster engine and more ammo in it: AS7-D
But it would be still to slow for me.


Dropped the CT LL for 2 ML. Has the same alpha and should be more heat efficient. Plus you can have Artemis. A heatsink will only fit in there if you drop some ammo.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...echlab#modified

Chazmatron, on 02 April 2013 - 02:50 AM, said:

Trying to get mileage out of my Founders Atlas:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...edb876275f111a9

Wish I had room for Artemis or more Heat Sinks, what do you think?

if you swap the srm 6s out for srm 4s, you can put on artemis, which will be better at a distance, and your mech is preety good all around when it comes to weapon range and becuase of the reduced ammo consumption, you can take out 1 ton of ammo and add another heat sink, or you can keep the ammo and no add the hs, its up to you

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5cc855845472db9

you can also mix and match one srm 6 and srm 4 at the cost of one heat sink, if you want more dmg then the srm4s can do, but also want extra tonnage of not having 2 srm6s

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SchwarzerPeter, on 02 April 2013 - 04:22 AM, said:

Well i would drop the LRM20 for 2 LRM15 and stick a faster engine and more ammo in it. With artemis there isn't a big diffrence: AS7-D




Dropped the CT LL for 2 ML. Has the same alpha and should be more heat efficient. Plus you can have Artemis. A heatsink will only fit in there if you drop some ammo.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...echlab#modified

i couldnt get the link to open, but getting 2 mediums would allow something like this:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9a52375f8c7ec6a

faster, and higher alpha, although you wouldn't be able to use the 2 mediums as well at longer ranges

[SchwarzerPeter]

Fixed the link AS7-D

I keept the engine but added artemis.

[Xumed]

Here is my Ilya build.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0064df52164f0fc

Any way to improve it?

Mostly just play it to make cash...so a build that boosts cash returns? hehe *I can always dream*

[Wilklaus30]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e07cfecd246a2b3

the armor is not right, and i have double heatsinks not standard.

also im at full armor - 24 on each leg, but not sure where the rest of it is.

i have 0.5tons left but is my mech setup good. 2 streaks and a med laser on a commando?
also i think it's cheap to use ecm so i dont use it.

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Xumed, on 02 April 2013 - 05:12 AM, said:

Here is my Ilya build.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0064df52164f0fc

Any way to improve it?

Mostly just play it to make cash...so a build that boosts cash returns? hehe *I can always dream*

is it ok if it is more expensive? there is room for improvement

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Wilklaus30, on 02 April 2013 - 05:13 AM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e07cfecd246a2b3

the armor is not right, and i have double heatsinks not standard.

also im at full armor - 24 on each leg, but not sure where the rest of it is.

i have 0.5tons left but is my mech setup good. 2 streaks and a med laser on a commando?
also i think it's cheap to use ecm so i dont use it.

could you put in the real armor values and double heat sinks?? it would be easier to optimize
plz and thank you

[Just wanna play]

Xumed, on 02 April 2013 - 05:12 AM, said:

Here is my Ilya build.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0064df52164f0fc

Any way to improve it?

Mostly just play it to make cash...so a build that boosts cash returns? hehe *I can always dream*

if i keep ferro armor, i can put in a bigger engine by moving the ammo into the legs, and removing case, as well as taking off a slight amount of leg armor
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...cd42f60e9766e9d

if i put in endo stell, which is more expensive, i can do this
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c4132619d2af57d
you can use the extra tonnage however you want, i just put in a bigger engines to leave your basic set-up untouched

[SchwarzerPeter]

Xumed, on 02 April 2013 - 05:12 AM, said:

Here is my Ilya build. http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0064df52164f0fc Any way to improve it? Mostly just play it to make cash...so a build that boosts cash returns? hehe *I can always dream*

The CASE wont do you any good with the XL engine. Put the ammo in the feet. Also you should switch FF for Endo, it saves more tonnage. With that you can put more ammo in there or an AMS: ILYA MUROMETS

[Wilklaus30]

Just wanna play, on 02 April 2013 - 05:18 AM, said:

could you put in the real armor values and double heat sinks?? it would be easier to optimize
plz and thank you

I'm at work so I can't check 100%, but I knew that I had an extra .5 tons so it seems about right. I might have more armor in my fronts than my backs but im maxed out on armor also.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f18a80db0414414

[Xumed]

Just wanna play, on 02 April 2013 - 05:15 AM, said:

is it ok if it is more expensive? there is room for improvement

Absolutely.

[Just wanna play]

Xumed, on 02 April 2013 - 05:41 AM, said:

Absolutely.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0c8d37ceafa8d6b
i didn't alter the weapons or engines, so you can decide on what to do with the spare tonnage

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Wilklaus30, on 02 April 2013 - 05:38 AM, said:

I'm at work so I can't check 100%, but I knew that I had an extra .5 tons so it seems about right. I might have more armor in my fronts than my backs but im maxed out on armor also.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f18a80db0414414

how often do you use up at least 100 streak ammo?? you have 200 shots, thats 50 shots for your ssrm, is that a little to much for you??
if i take out 1 ton of ssrm ammo, i can do this (you will have 25 shot for your ssrm)
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c0ed7b39ad68788

.53 tons left to play with, you will have a medium pulse, which does slightly more dmg then regular mediums, and it does it faster, imo making it better against other lights

you could also remove some armor off of the basic set-up, keep 2 tons off srm ammo, and put in the medium pulse

[Xumed]

Just wanna play, on 02 April 2013 - 05:44 AM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0c8d37ceafa8d6b
i didn't alter the weapons or engines, so you can decide on what to do with the spare tonnage

How about the Armor assignments?

I don't know the strategy with that...is there one?

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Xumed, on 02 April 2013 - 06:34 AM, said:

How about the Armor assignments?

I don't know the strategy with that...is there one?

not really, with armor you just keep trying various values until it seems right, normally you can reduce leg armor for some weight savings since on certain mechs, including yours, no one aims for them, you don't really need to save any weight tho, normally for the front to back balance on the torsos, you just keep trying different values until you find what works

long range fighters who tend to have most enemies far away directly in front of them can get away with most of the armor on the front, so can the hunchie since it has lots of torso twist, i recommend just trying out the way it is now and watching to see what side you are normally killed from, then adjust it, test, adjust it some more, and so on

also, i you have lots of armor on your arms (which you do) you can tun away from what ever your fighting momentarily to shield yourself with the arm, it will help keep you alive longer

[Wilklaus30]

Just wanna play, on 02 April 2013 - 05:55 AM, said:

how often do you use up at least 100 streak ammo?? you have 200 shots, thats 50 shots for your ssrm, is that a little to much for you??
if i take out 1 ton of ssrm ammo, i can do this (you will have 25 shot for your ssrm)
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c0ed7b39ad68788

.53 tons left to play with, you will have a medium pulse, which does slightly more dmg then regular mediums, and it does it faster, imo making it better against other lights

you could also remove some armor off of the basic set-up, keep 2 tons off srm ammo, and put in the medium pulse

yeah I like the idea of the better laser, but occasionally I will use up that ammo, not often, but sometimes so it'll have to be a judgement call but I think ill pick up that laser only because when those ECMs come in i can only shoot the laser and it really weakens me.