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[Franchi]

PANZERBUNNY, on 26 March 2013 - 08:46 PM, said:

Don't let PGI buy you a drink. It may have roofies in it....actually...please buy me a drink PGI. It will dull the pain.

IVe got gin, rum, moon shine and triple sec mixed in varying quantities with Pepsi and tonic water, getting smashed is the only way I can ply this game anymore, otherwise I get all depressed about what PGI is doing to it.

I would be more than happy to poor you a drink ill make it strong enough you won't need the roofies.

[Stone Profit]

Vassago Rain, on 26 March 2013 - 02:05 AM, said:

The core players don't matter. The core doesn't know what it wants. We must improve the new player experience, by adding 3rd person for REASONS. We're adding 3rd person, and that's just how it is. Coolant shots are here to stay. Gold artillery. No news forever.

Etc.

Yet more untrue hyperbole from Vassago Rain. Totally expected, and par for the course. No evidence, no information, just wah wah wah theyre mean to us. Theyre adding 3rd person because it will make them money. The "Core players" are only a very small part of the population and they dont need to cater to them at the expense of other players, Coolant shots ARE here to stay, because theyre harmless and far from the Iwin button you claim they are, no such thing as gold artillery, and they give us plenty of new for those of us who have a real life to live instead of MWO news being the only reason to get up in the morning. Well, that and whiskey. Sure, its too early to start drinking, but its never too early to start THINKING about drinking.

Edited by Stone Profit, 26 March 2013 - 08:54 PM.

[BlackAbbot]

jakucha, on 26 March 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

First mistake was assuming this was a simulator. 3rd person has a place in Arma 2/3 which are considered fairly hardcore sims by the way, not that I will be using it if it is released in this game.

First mistake was buying a Founder's package or believing what PGI said in the sales material for them, because it was pretty clearly stated when the Founder's Packages were sold that MWO was going to be a simulator, that 3rd person and Coolant Flush would never be in the game, that Community Warfare would be in 90 days after Open Beta and that we would be following a strict 1:1 timeline with 2012=3049.

[Franchi]

MrPenguin, on 26 March 2013 - 08:50 PM, said:

You see, people keep saying this. But never bring up a context. The only thing I could ever find is Paul saying that mechwarrior is a "first person shooter". I can't find anything on them stating that it would be first person only. Only that it would have first person in it.

So, unless I've missed something here... This is a classic example of you guys twisting PGI's words around for your own asinine posts.

First perosn was refereed to as one of the design pillars, third person will be the default mode for any competitive play if it can be used, becasue it is superior in every way.

but even if you are right and its context (it's not) I would like to point you to the 16th or 26th post in the coolant melt down threadnaught where we are told that coolant will not be in MWO because it invalidates heat management and heat as a balancing factor.


You can look it up for yourself I'm to drunk to find it.

[anonymous175]

[Stone Profit]

Franchi, on 26 March 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

First perosn was refereed to as one of the design pillars, third person will be the default mode for any competitive play if it can be used, becasue it is superior in every way.

but even if you are right and its context (it's not) I would like to point you to the 16th or 26th post in the coolant melt down threadnaught where we are told that coolant will not be in MWO because it invalidates heat management and heat as a balancing factor.


You can look it up for yourself I'm to drunk to find it.

Bring me something that says they said only first person. Ill save you the time, you cant, because they didnt.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Stone Profit, on 26 March 2013 - 08:52 PM, said:

The "Core players" are only a very small part of the population and they dont need to cater to them

again, why the hell are most ppl posting here?
They dont NEED even to listen to us; they have their silent majority to listen to.

[MrPenguin]

Franchi, on 26 March 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

First perosn was refereed to as one of the design pillars, third person will be the default mode for any competitive play if it can be used, becasue it is superior in every way.

Except they explicitly said it will never, I repeat, never be put into a competitive gamemode.
In fact, its currently only confirmed for the training grounds. Anything else is still in the early planning stage with nothing confirmed as of now.

You can give me the old "WELL PGI IS LYING TO US!" Horse *** all you like. But I work with facts, not crack pot theory's some angsty teenagers made up out of pure boredom.

Edited by MrPenguin, 26 March 2013 - 09:05 PM.

[BlackAbbot]

Stone Profit, on 26 March 2013 - 08:56 PM, said:

Bring me something that says they said only first person. Ill save you the time, you cant, because they have locked/hidden/deleted all those posts now.

Fixed.

[Stone Profit]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 26 March 2013 - 08:56 PM, said:

again, why the hell are most ppl posting here?
They dont NEED even to listen to us; they have their silent majority to listen to.

So they should only cater to the so called "core players" at the expense of everyone who disagrees with those core players? who by the way are really just the core forumgoers but Bryan was to polite to say that. And they have far better means of collecting data than listening to whiny *** entitled forum users who feel they deserve to be catered to because they gifted pgi money to help them make this game. Thats right, gifted, not bought, not invested, GIFTED.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

MrPenguin, on 26 March 2013 - 08:56 PM, said:

Except they explicitly said it will never, I repeat, never be put into a competitive gamemode.
In fact, its currently only planned for the training grounds. With no plans to add it to anything else.

EXCEPT

Bryan Ekman, on 21 March 2013 - 03:38 PM, said:

You will have the following options as a player:

• Play against 1st and 3rd person players.
  
• Play against 3rd person players only.
  
• Play against 1st person players only.
  
• Players can set their preference in the options menu, or during the launch phase before matchmaking

They do

[MrPenguin]

BlackAbbot, on 26 March 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

Broken.

Fixed*

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Stone Profit, on 26 March 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

So they should only cater to the so called "core players" at the expense of everyone who disagrees with those core players? who by the way are really just the core forumgoers but Bryan was to polite to say that. And they have far better means of collecting data than listening to whiny *** entitled forum users who feel they deserve to be catered to because they gifted pgi money to help them make this game. Thats right, gifted, not bought, not invested, GIFTED.

You realize youre including yourself in those insults yes?

[Stone Profit]

BlackAbbot, on 26 March 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

Fixed.

Incorrect. I read all the info put out. So now its just your word against mine and I suppose we will have to agree to disagree.

Edited by Stone Profit, 26 March 2013 - 09:01 PM.

[Franchi]

Stone Profit, on 26 March 2013 - 08:56 PM, said:

Bring me something that says they said only first person. Ill save you the time, you cant, because they didnt.

http://mwomercs.com/...t-flush-module/

Post 18 suck on the screen shots. and please leave me alone with your inane and boring PGI defense force stupidity.

[Stone Profit]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 26 March 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

You realize youre including yourself in those insults yes?

Im not whiny. Im not entitled. So no, Im not including myself in those realistic observations of the vast majority of forum goers. Nice try twisting my words tho.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Franchi, on 26 March 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:

http://mwomercs.com/...t-flush-module/

Post 18 suck on the screen shots. and please leave me alone with your inane and boring PGI defense force stupidity.

second post in post down.... wish I knew the thread that was from

Stone Profit, on 26 March 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

Im not whiny. Im not entitled. So no, Im not including myself in those realistic observations of the vast majority of forum goers. Nice try twisting my words tho.

youyre JUST as whiny as the people you accuse oif being so lol just because you fanboi the devs doesnt make you less whiny than the people youre arguing against

also; you mighty wanna follow that link 'e just proved you wrong.

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 26 March 2013 - 09:03 PM.

[Stone Profit]

Franchi, on 26 March 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:

http://mwomercs.com/...t-flush-module/

Post 18 suck on the screen shots. and please leave me alone with your inane and boring PGI defense force stupidity.

They dont have coolant flush. The have coolant shot which works differently from coolant flush from mw4, which is what they were talking about. I understand you dont get the difference, some sort of reading comp issue on your end, which is made further clear by the fact that I was speaking of first person / third person and you seem to have missed that too.

[Roadbeer]

Thanks for asking..

Well, I told you about my lunch.

So after that, I worked a little more this afternoon, ate the leftover Chinese for dinner, did about 10-15 drops, walked the dog then started trolling the forums.

Ok, I'll admit that the server population on our house TS server has been a bit light over the last couple weeks, but it seems to ebb and flow... lighter on the weekends, heavier mid week nights. Content patch weeks are heavier than say, this week. But we're doing our Civil War and our Marik Monday Madness and we get great turnouts when those are going on.

With no real push for anything but the repetition of drop, tweak, rinse, repeat (lack of CW), right now you're just going to get the core players... when (if) CW comes out, you'll see a CRAPTON of our house come back.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Stone Profit, on 26 March 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

They dont have coolant flush. The have coolant shot which works differently from coolant flush from mw4, which is what they were talking about. I understand you dont get the difference, some sort of reading comp issue on your end, which is made further clear by the fact that I was speaking of first person / third person and you seem to have missed that too.

um.... the second SS in the post... the one youre ignoring? The one that says theyre putting you in the pilot seat... etc that was talking about 3rd person view