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[stjobe]

Thontor, on 26 March 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

so... dont

Ding-ding-ding, we have a winner.

[PropagandaWar]

Homeless Bill, on 26 March 2013 - 01:40 PM, said:

Honestly, I don't get it either. I'd unlock a couple camo patterns if I could use them on any 'mech. But restricting it to a single chassis (especially when I collect as many 'mechs as I can)? I'll pass.

Is anyone really buying the unlocks?

If I like them I do. I also only play certain mechs too. The ones I dont play so much I tend to unlock the single use for.

You might hate me even more for owning two hero mechs and over 20 colors (alot of them premium gasp).

Edited by PropagandaWar, 26 March 2013 - 02:51 PM.

[Corvus Antaka]

yeah. make the camos full across all mech unlocks and Ill do it. Until then, no interest in any of those sweet camos.

[Homeless Bill]

Thontor, on 26 March 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

so... dont

And I don't. I'm not saying it's worse than nothing; I'm simply suggesting they would make more money by allowing for a global camouflage unlock.

PropagandaWar, on 26 March 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

You might hate me even more for owning two hero mechs and over 20 colors (alot of them premium gasp).

If you have the disposable income, power to you. I would buy everything if I had the money for it. As it stands, I have to be picky, and most of the cosmetic options are just too pricey to be worth it right now.

Edited by Homeless Bill, 26 March 2013 - 02:59 PM.

[moneyBURNER]

No matter what, camo patterns need to be chassis-specific so PGI can keep generating revenue as they release new mechs.

I think the price is twice what it should be, but at least it buys some exclusivity as fewer people will pay.

They should add more tiers of options for discounted bundles, like a 5-mech pack, 10 pack, etc.

[stjobe]

Homeless Bill, on 26 March 2013 - 02:56 PM, said:

And I don't. I'm not saying it's worse than nothing; I'm simply suggesting they would make more money by allowing for a global camouflage unlock.

There's what, 16 'mechs in the game right now? And about five camos?
So, let's see... 16 * 5 = 85 chances of selling an unlock OR a single application
vs
5 chances to sell an unlock.

Yeah, that'd totally make them more money.

If the global unlock cost about 12,000 MC.

[Belorion]

I can see a per chassis unlock being useful if they give the option to switch loadouts/cammo schemes at the beginning of a match.

[OneEyed Jack]

Belorion, on 26 March 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

I can see a per chassis unlock being useful if they give the option to switch loadouts/cammo schemes at the beginning of a match.

It was mentioned by a dev that this will be possible to some extent with CW, at least with the camo.

[OneManWar]

750 does seem too high. Let's say I want to just keep the pattern, most of the time I'll get only 3 variants of any mech to get master, and less once I have each class unlocked. 3 x 75 = 225. For 525 I can swap it around? Seriously, too much for me. I rather have 2 and a half mech slots.


The 75 for a 1 use though, thats a decent price.

[WVAnonymous]

Also, in case no one has noticed, they periodically put stuff on sale.

When camo colors were on sale I bought a few.

I bought Cat and Dragon Phranken plus Phranken colors 2 for the price of 1 over the weekend. I now have Phranken colors available to spiff up my PC Gamer (better red).

Nobody needs any of this stuff. If you're good with the price, take it.

Colors are NOT P2W!

[Stone Profit]

AntiCitizenJuan, on 26 March 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

The only reason they are there is to get 1000% more profit from an unwitting player.
Seriously, think about it. There's no explanation that it is BattleMech type specific, and no one in their right mind would ever buy 10 variants of 1 mech.

I know someone who bought it just on accident, and then figured he'd be able to use it on all mechs.
I explained it to him and he wrote a ticket asking for a refund.

Oh but they don't refund for that.
How herpdy-*******-derp convenient.

Your friend is less than intelligent and doesnt DESERVE a refund. Call it a tax on stupidy/inattention. L2Read before you buy, problem solved. Stop acting like theyre trying to screw you over, sheesh.

[Homeless Bill]

stjobe, on 26 March 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

There's what, 16 'mechs in the game right now? And about five camos?
So, let's see... 16 * 5 = 85 chances of selling an unlock OR a single application
vs
5 chances to sell an unlock.

Yeah, that'd totally make them more money.

If the global unlock cost about 12,000 MC.

Your logic is awful. You assume that everyone is going to buy everything - and that's exactly the problem: very few people are buying chassis unlocks (based on the people I know, the whine in the forums, and I'd bet money their internal numbers show the same).

It's much easier to find 10 people that want to spend $10 than 2 people that want to spend $50. Everyone has a purchasing threshold, and right now, their prices cause a lot of people to simply not buy things. They're making $0 from most people (not your imagined $50) - a lot of whom they could be making $5-10 from simply by dropping prices (on some things) or creating more value (global unlock).

You also seem to think I want to get rid of single-use purchases, which is a blatant mischaracterization of my views. Single-use camo patterns are perfect. They're priced right, they're temporary, and they're a good value. The unlocks, on the other hand, are a complete waste of money unless you fall into the sub-sub-category of player that concentrates on one or two chassis and also likes to re-paint 'mechs all the time.

They can keep chassis unlocks around, but I'd drop the price to 500MC from 750MC, and then I'd add a global unlock for 1250MC.

[Grand Ayatollah Kerensky]

To be honest, I have never had an urge to change any of my mech's camo pattern. I am perfectly content just changing around the colors and putting new patterns on new mechs.

[Dran]

ive mistakenly purchased this "option" once, fool me once PGI shame on me!

[Bagheera]

Kobold, on 26 March 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

How is this complicated guys? Like Tennex said, speak with your MC.

It isn't, and I have been. Nothing wrong with answering the core question at hand.

[3ffigy]

PropagandaWar, on 26 March 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

If I like them I do. I also only play certain mechs too. The ones I dont play so much I tend to unlock the single use for.

You might hate me even more for owning two hero mechs and over 20 colors (alot of them premium gasp).

I hate you... but you kinda already knew that ;-) I haven't purchased any patterns, hero mechs, or premium paints at non-sale prices yet because I don't think the value is there. If I could keep up with such content on a monthly basis including premium time for $15/month, similar to many subscription based MMOs I'd bite, but at current rates I could easily spend $50-60/mo to keep up with new patterns, hero mechs and other flavor items as they are released and considering that I could buy a new title or fund 3-4 simultaneous subscriptions for that I think it is too much. Also keep in mind that in many of those subscription based games much of the recoloring, pets, flair and special content is grindable or purchasable within the context of the subscription which just isn't the case in MWO. Don't underestimate that many folks do want to have all of the content, and not just bits and pieces. That said, I do think PGI will continue to refine prices over time in an attempt to get people that can't see paying 750MC for a pattern per mech chassis and thus buy no patterns at all to suddenly purchase 3-4 when that cost is across all chassis.

Edited by 3ffigy, 26 March 2013 - 08:57 PM.

[Monsoon]

You know you could just wait for a sale...but then, that might require patience.

I bought the Tiger Pattern for my Cataphract at 50% off, sorry but that isn't pricey at all.

[Ransack]

I too have been bitten by this. Unlocked Tiger Cammo for 750 thinking that it was for all mechs, not realizing it was just the Cataphracts. Glad I didn't mess up with Phanken for 1250.

[PropagandaWar]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 26 March 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

yeah. make the camos full across all mech unlocks and Ill do it. Until then, no interest in any of those sweet camos.

I wonder how often this is said, yet actually doesn't happen.

[QuantumButler]

Unlike some boring people I change my camo specs all the damn time, if I only used the one time use ones I'd be out way more money than buying the unlocks, why wouldn't I do it?