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[Trauglodyte]

The X-5 is fine, the OP is bad

[Jetfire]

The stock is almost perfect. I have easily beaten fresh heavies one on one with it.

[Appogee]

X-5 is my favourite Mech. Run fast, attack from flanks.

[TruePoindexter]

The X5 is pretty awesome - it should crush pretty much all the other fast mechs except for the RVN-3L and maybe the CDA-3M. I replace the SRM2s with SSRM2s understanding that in either case they're not really going to be useful against an ECM enemy. Running this and it works well:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...6ee7a0d3b47b036

I'm not a fan of SRM4s or SRM6s because each hard point only has 2 missile tubes making larger racks awkward to use.

[Lupo the Butcher]

X5 is the 1st and only mech I've spent MC on and I love it.

XL330 = top speed just under 150 with tweak
4 x Med Lasers
2 x Streak SRM
Full Ferro armour
Endo Steel
DBL heat sinks

I eat anything without ECM and and even without the streaks, at that speed, I rarely get beat by ECM lights.

I've done upwards of 600 damage plenty of times and kill/death ratio is at least 2 to 1.

[Red3]

with the upcoming changes to BAP i changed my configuration to this:

XL285 =127kph with speed tweek
4 med lasers
2 SSRM's with 2 tons ammo
15 DHS
BAP
Armor 256/274

With sensor range 2 and BAP I make a very effective scout, and once the BAP changes go live, I will be able to eat 3L's for lunch

And I'm hopeing that they will add the effects of SR2 to the BAP so that the BAP's ECM countering effects are extended beyond the 150m range, but that might be wishful thinking

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

I've been super successful with this:

XL340, 3 SL (two in arms), 1 ML, 2 SSRM2s (2 tons of ammo), full armor except for three on each leg, BAP, and fill in the rest of the weight with engine heat sinks (you can get one or two).

Alternatively, keep the XL330 and get an extra heat sink.

Once the BAP buff goes through this will be murderous against lights, and if you have a friend who you can drop with who can run an ECM light then you can do amazing things even now.

[Ngamok]

Mizzmo, on 27 March 2013 - 10:07 AM, said:

I got the x5 and i am disappointed. Anyone have any suggestions for it's build? It just seems sad. Maybe I am missing something.

2 Large Lasers, 2 SRM2s, XL280 (dropped the 330).

X-5

I do pretty good with it though it's 30 KPH slower than faster lights.

[RedrumnCoke]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 11 May 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

I've been super successful with this:

XL340, 3 SL (two in arms), 1 ML, 2 SSRM2s (2 tons of ammo), full armor except for three on each leg, BAP, and fill in the rest of the weight with engine heat sinks (you can get one or two).

Alternatively, keep the XL330 and get an extra heat sink.

Once the BAP buff goes through this will be murderous against lights, and if you have a friend who you can drop with who can run an ECM light then you can do amazing things even now.

This is true. Once lights will no longer be immune to streaks, the x-5 will be a great light hunter. I already have mine built as follows and am only waiting for that patch to drop to dust it off. http://mwo.smurfy-ne...657bb84195fd5c0

Edited by RedrumnCoke, 14 May 2013 - 08:58 PM.

[627]

It's already a good light hunter. You don't need streaks for that.

Here's mine:
X-5

Max engine gives you the edge on fast lights and you can outrun nearly all other Cicadas. Stripping the armor was a joke testrun but it seems to go well. 99% of my death are center torso and only in maybe 10% i loose an arm. If you really want full armor on legs, i'd take some cockpit armor of, i was never headshotted in this ride.

It runs a little hot and you could take srm2 instead of streaks for an extra heatsink, but i'll wait for missile HSR for that.

Edited by 627, 15 May 2013 - 01:35 AM.

[topgun505]

BAP fix is coming. Then this will be perfectly viable.

focuspark, on 27 March 2013 - 11:06 AM, said:

Streaks are too conditional now, and do too little damage. SRM4 or 6 is a better choice currently.

<aside> love the YouTube vids.

[sarkun]

I bought it with the intention of running 4ML, BAP + streaks after May 21st as a light mech hunter - figured that with more armor than a light I could win an attrition war with one.

Right now I wait for the poptarter lines to engage, circle round enemy mechs and just choose one assault to hit in the back, fade, hit again, effectively taking it out of the main fight.

It works great, unless a raven pack comes knocking. More than one and they slaughter me. One on one I have a small chance - I've got more armor and one more laser.

[Pale Jackal]

Unfortunately, the X-5 is in a bad position with missiles being nerfed.

The only thing an X-5 can do that most other lights can't is mount a pair of SRM6 (and the 3L's one-tube launcher makes using dual SRM6s a bad idea, IMO) ... but currently SRM6s do 9 damage for 4 heat and weigh about 4 tons, have limited ammo and range.

Once SRM6's get buffed, then the X-5 would make a good flanking / ambush 'mech. 4 ML + 2 SRM6 would be a 50 damage alpha before the missile damage nerf.

The X-5 isn't awful, but the fact that all Cicadas are so bulky makes them inferior to lighter 'mechs.

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...echlab#modified

Decided to play around a bit with builds, and here's what I came up with. You could bump arm armor down a bit and move it to the legs if you want, but most of my cicada deaths are CT blow outs and I mostly get legged by things that would pretty much leg me in one shot no matter what. Arm armor can be used to shield your vulnerable side torsos, plus with half your lasers in arm mounts you don't want them to fall off when faced with a stiff breeze.

Once I get a chance to play around with it some I may change it up again, but in the mean time I expect this build will work out nicely.

Also, once you get speed tweak, you really don't need more than an XL315, as that will push you past 140 kph. Larger engines are very useful before speed tweak, though, with the XL340 getting you within spitting distance of the 140 kph marker. I'll probably be reconsidering my engine once I save up enough for speed tweak on my X-5.

[Fate 6]

Sedant, on 27 March 2013 - 10:47 AM, said:

XL300, SRM6's and 3 tons of missiles. Keeping the lasers and everything else as is.

This is exactly what I'm running. You have to carefully aim the 3 salvos of SRMs, but you get a lot more out of it. It's essentially a faster, lighter 4SP, which when you think about it is pretty damn scary.

[St10invalid_argument]

Red3, on 11 May 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

with the upcoming changes to BAP i changed my configuration to this:

XL285 =127kph with speed tweek
4 med lasers
2 SSRM's with 2 tons ammo
15 DHS
BAP
Armor 256/274

With sensor range 2 and BAP I make a very effective scout, and once the BAP changes go live, I will be able to eat 3L's for lunch

And I'm hopeing that they will add the effects of SR2 to the BAP so that the BAP's ECM countering effects are extended beyond the 150m range, but that might be wishful thinking

[Little Details]

next week, I don't see how anything could be more optimal than this:
X-5 325XL, 4ML, 2SSRM, BAP

could drop 1 HS for an extra ton of SSRM, I guess, if you spam ssrms constanstly.

Edited by LT Satisfactory, 15 May 2013 - 07:58 AM.

[Darwins Dog]

Red3, on 11 May 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

with the upcoming changes to BAP i changed my configuration to this:

XL285 =127kph with speed tweek
4 med lasers
2 SSRM's with 2 tons ammo
15 DHS
BAP
Armor 256/274

With sensor range 2 and BAP I make a very effective scout, and once the BAP changes go live, I will be able to eat 3L's for lunch

And I'm hopeing that they will add the effects of SR2 to the BAP so that the BAP's ECM countering effects are extended beyond the 150m range, but that might be wishful thinking

I'm not sure how you're building that. XL 285 is pretty small, and there doesn't seem to be enough room for the DHS.

Pretty much echoing what others have said at this point, but I either run the SSRM + BAP method (practicing for the BAP buff), or the SRM6 build. Both have been very effective for me.

[Edwyndham]

BAP changes will (possibly) make the X-5 stock build a lot more viable with its streaks in about a week.

[Lusankya]

I love the default build. Just keep moving to try to make it as hard for your enemies to hit you and you should do well.