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[SirLANsalot]

So after reading all the bellyaching about 3P, everyone seems to be forgetting that there is one game out there that literally has the best compromise.

World of Tanks literally has the best system out there for both 1P and 3P. They are hot swappable you can go into either mode in a single button. In WoT you use 3P mostly for driving around and taking pot shots at enemy's but not really for any specific targeting of components (tracks in this case) unless you are point blank with one another. Its better suited for fast tanks (or mechs here) like lights or mediums, but you still swap to 1P when you want to track (or in MWO take a leg/arm) a bigger tank (mech) with a well placed shot (or alpha for MWO). Also 1P only lets you use zoom in WoT you cannot zoom at all in 3P, this means you can't snipe with a Tank Destroyer unless you are in 1P mode. Meaning you cannot see left or right of you to see if another tank is sneaking up on you, since even your tank can't spot them.

Here in MWO this hot swap system of 1P/3P could apply very well to the very issue the players are clamoring over. In 3P you cannot zoom at all, in MW4 you could still use the zoom box even in 3P so you could still snipe. PGI here has a chance to fix that issue and disallow any zooming at all. Meaning you cannot use the advanced zoom module when in 3P, nor can you even use normal zoom you get now. You will have to swap to 1P mode to zoom in to take a sniper shot. The advantages of 1P become apparent now, meaning you will have the advantage of being able to place your firepower where you want it, even while brawling, over what 3P can. In 1P you will have a better sense of where your guns are, and where they are landing, in 3P you will just know your shooting at something and will be spraying everything all over the place. While in 3P you would be able to pilot your mech better, as you would have a better sense of where your legs/torso are and a better awareness overall of where you are in relation to the terrain.

So overall, 3P would be better for mid/short range combat but be less accurate and be better for driving your mech. 1P would be better for overall combat and you would have better accuracy as you are much closer to your guns but piloting your mech becomes slightly harder. No need for separate game modes for 1P/3P, as EVERY pilot would have them both active at all times, and it would be up to them if they wanted to swap between the two at a whim. Both views would have there advantages/disadvantages but no one mode would be "better" then the other. All the while the spotting system we have now would still stay intact. While in 3P you wont see weapons fire or mechs if your pilot did not see it happen in the first place.

Having an option to check what mode you wish to start the game in would be needed too.

[Dreamslave]

To put in it the easiest-to-comprehend manner, 3rd person will still obviously give you a much better view of your surroundings, which is a HUGE advantage. This is not a compromise. 3rd person is bad bad bad.

This is supposed to be a mech sim and an fps. Anything else and it's no-go.

Edited by Dreamslave, 31 March 2013 - 12:27 AM.

[Sean von Steinike]

NO..

[Duncan Fisher]

You're missing the entire point of the anti-3rd person sentiments

[Kiiyor]

Dreamslave, on 31 March 2013 - 12:26 AM, said:

To put in it the easiest-to-comprehend manner, 3rd person will still obviously give you a much better view of your surroundings, which is a HUGE advantage. This is not a compromise. 3rd person is bad bad bad.

This is supposed to be a mech sim and an fps. Anything else and it's no-go.

THIS.

The only third person view I would like to see would involve badass animated death scenes, like that dude at the end of platoon.

There would also have to be a commando there reaching out a hand in slow motion, shouting NOOOOOOOOO in slowmo while being held back by a trenchbucket.

[darkfall13]

Kiiyor, on 31 March 2013 - 12:32 AM, said:

THIS.

The only third person view I would like to see would involve badass animated death scenes, like that dude at the end of platoon.

There would also have to be a commando there reaching out a hand in slow motion, shouting NOOOOOOOOO in slowmo while being held back by a trenchbucket.

I for one can get behind this 3PV

[SirLANsalot]

Really? Because this is the only way to implement this and still please everyone. The FoV is the ONLY bloody advantage you get in 3P and you can't even hit stuff well while in it. You don't get zoom, you don't get anything else that makes 1P better. Doing this hot swap would allow both modes to be available at ALL TIMES.

Oh and as for the BS about this being a SIM.....3P is what makes it a effing simulator, 1P makes this game into a FPS, and is why PGI is putting 3P in.

[AceTimberwolf]

SirLANsalot, on 31 March 2013 - 12:36 AM, said:

Really? Because this is the only way to implement this and still please everyone. The FoV is the ONLY bloody advantage you get in 3P and you can't even hit stuff well while in it. You don't get zoom, you don't get anything else that makes 1P better. Doing this hot swap would allow both modes to be available at ALL TIMES.

Oh and as for the BS about this being a SIM.....3P is what makes it a effing simulator, 1P makes this game into a FPS, and is why PGI is putting 3P in.

::Sigh::　仕方がない。。。

[Egomane]

The developers are researching ways to make 3PV viable for MWO. If you want them to notice it, post your idea into the official thread.

http://mwomercs.com/...095-3rd-person/

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