296 replies to this topic

[Slater01]

Well I can't wait for an offical response to all this, hopefully today.

I know if it was me, I would spend some time writing it, then review it an hour or so later, then post.
Maybe I'll apply to be a new PR guy.

Edited by Slater01, 02 April 2013 - 10:18 AM.

[PalinRMA]

They just need to make everyone sub or keep the game free to play with only micro transactions As a founder and 20 years playing mech games I will not be playing this game if the current price structure moves ahead.

[Abivard]

It seems they are going to ignore this, a brief look at the newest price structures demonstrates an underhanded and to me unethical business practices. Too bad, been waiting 20 years for a good MW game, guess I can wait another 20 years, Or just give it up, it was a children's make believe game and you can't ever go back to that magic. But It seems you can always find someone willing to sell it to you , you just need to not ask questions and keep spending money.

[Mystere]

Abivard, on 02 April 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

It seems they are going to ignore this, a brief look at the newest price structures demonstrates an underhanded and to me unethical business practices. Too bad, been waiting 20 years for a good MW game, guess I can wait another 20 years, Or just give it up, it was a children's make believe game and you can't ever go back to that magic. But It seems you can always find someone willing to sell it to you , you just need to not ask questions and keep spending money.

Please expound on your "underhanded and to me unethical business practices" line. Statements like these simply cannot be left as they stand.

Edited by Mystere, 02 April 2013 - 02:15 PM.

[Belorion]

Abivard, on 02 April 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

It seems they are going to ignore this, a brief look at the newest price structures demonstrates an underhanded and to me unethical business practices. Too bad, been waiting 20 years for a good MW game, guess I can wait another 20 years, Or just give it up, it was a children's make believe game and you can't ever go back to that magic. But It seems you can always find someone willing to sell it to you , you just need to not ask questions and keep spending money.

Free is just too much money for you?

[Matt Minus]

Abivard, on 02 April 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

It seems they are going to ignore this, a brief look at the newest price structures demonstrates an underhanded and to me unethical business practices. Too bad, been waiting 20 years for a good MW game, guess I can wait another 20 years, Or just give it up, it was a children's make believe game and you can't ever go back to that magic. But It seems you can always find someone willing to sell it to you , you just need to not ask questions and keep spending money.

Yes, giving away games for free is completely unethical! Ye gods, there's a lot of stupid in this thread, but I think this takes the cake.

[vrok]

Matt Minus, on 02 April 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

Yes, giving away games for free is completely unethical! Ye gods, there's a lot of stupid in this thread, but I think this takes the cake.

Your post does indeed take the cake for most stupid. Good call.

[Matt Minus]

vrok, on 02 April 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

Your post does indeed take the cake for most stupid. Good call.

I think you can do better than "I know you are, but what am I", champ.

[Bishop Steiner]

Matt Minus, on 02 April 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

I think you can do better than "I know you are, but what am I", champ.

Sadly, he probably cannot. Welcome to the sad truth of internet forums.

[Kaemon]

EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD NEEDS A HUG...
So someone else, please hug them.

[Gremlich Johns]

Syllogy, on 01 April 2013 - 06:47 PM, said:

And it's because of your extensive experience in the Video Game Industry that you know how much skill they actually have?

And yet amateurs made MW:LL with such features as combined arms.

@Syllogy - Your tone is consistently insulting. You should drop it for it makes you seem petty.

They have not made any substantive explanation which would settle, among other things, the issue of how or if they are going to monetize Factions (which would include "The Clans"). There are too many contradictory statements from the PGI staff in the gaming press to be sure WHAT PGI intends to do. Taking their statements at face value when they have changed their mind since they first announced production of the game would make even apologists as yourself give pause. You can continue to provide money to a company which continues to produce a flawed game with an unclear future, I won't beyond the money I spent on the founder's package.

No combined arms aspect
Potential for P2P (I state here potential for, not probability)
Potential P2W (ditto)
Limited mech selections
Limited map selections
For now a questionable Elo/MM system
Buggy (I've experienced HUD issues (mini-map in particular), mech freezing, controls not working (like the "B" and "Q"))

Regardless if I win or lose or the fact they keep stating that this is a BETA (which it patently is no longer), MW:O has not been a consistent pleasurable gaming experience and PGI's firefighting skills are suspect.

Edited by Gremlich Johns, 03 April 2013 - 03:04 PM.

[pjnt]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 April 2013 - 08:23 AM, said:

@pjnt,

While I do agree with you in general, I would point out the same reason that no one can admit when they are wrong here, even when proven beyond a doubt. People can't admit when they are wrong anymore.

And, he might not be. But if Bryan gave out 27 interviews that day, and floated a monetization scheme (sorta, kinda in a vague way) and didn't apparently in the other 26, it seems likely he was testing the idea for reactions, or just throwing out possibilities to see what sticks.

End of the day, there first job is to make money, whether we care to admit it or not. Some ideas sound better before you say them out loud, though. If I was to take 1comment at my discretion from almost anyone on here, I could make almost anyone in here seem like a greedy jerrk, lol. Again.... Lets see the official announcement first. We can sharpen our pitch forks until then.

Also, I agree with you in general. I would point out a few issues that are less twitter quote content involved that leave me waiting on the response. a) It was stated to be a f2p game and 5.2 million was generated on a concept. I agree it can change, but we don't need to like it. f2p does not mean they can't make money - not at all. Just that the money the make can't deny players content if they can't/won't pay. However, they can change this strategy and we don't need to like it. c) The ongoing process of dropping ideas into the media to gauge the nerdrage on their own forums is less than kosher. It allows them deniability over accountability.

[ChildeRoland]

can we stop with the stupid banter and whining? I will admit I am as eager as the next person to see what news comes forth on community warfare. I certainly would not be happy to see involvement in this necessitate money but i am not unwilling to spend money on a good game.

this game so far is quite enjoyable and as a consumer I choose to spend my time and money on it, until such time that I am either bored or feel it is unfair or un-enjoyable in any way that it may happen. we rarely pay $X for most games (unless you were stupid like me and had faith in Diablo3, alas...) this game is in beta still, it is free. i played it in closed beta and it was not nearly as enjoyable.
...yes there are bugs, deal with it. you think equipment doesnt fail in real life too...are you gonna whine on the real battlefield? ...you think good stuff doesnt cost money and better stuff costs more? MC vs Cbills, you wanna play for free and not supportt, that's cool. you just wont have dice or a few other things..make up for it in skill as you grind away everything else that you are getting for free.
...if you feel a sense of entitlement because you contributed $30-$120 of the 5mill that was raised as a 'founder' put forth from efforts far exceeding yours in this game and continue to do such, go cry to your mommy and stop cluttering up the forums with negativity. maybe you should play x-box instead!

but at the heart of all of this, someone is going off of a few words. maybe this backlash will change ideas, maybe not...but we are all just waiting for more information. and lets put faith in the Canadian office eh!

anyway rant over...see you out on tourmaline

Edited by ChildeRoland, 02 April 2013 - 07:39 PM.

[Belorion]

Gremlich Johns, on 02 April 2013 - 05:53 PM, said:

And yet amateurs made MW:LL with such features as combined arms.

I don't think they were not really amateurs so much as industry people working on it as a hobby... wasn't the lead on that a Crytek employee?

Edited by Belorion, 03 April 2013 - 03:56 AM.

[Mystere]

Kaemon, on 02 April 2013 - 05:43 PM, said:

EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD NEEDS A HUG...
So someone else, please hug them.

I for one don't need it as I already get enough ... plus a whole lot of extras.

Edited by Mystere, 02 April 2013 - 07:51 PM.

[Mystere]

Gremlich Johns, on 02 April 2013 - 05:53 PM, said:

And yet amateurs made MW:LL with such features as combined arms.

I have a serious question: In the entire life of MWLL, how much was its player base at its peak?

[Bishop Steiner]

The only myth greater than the igp funds absconding conspiracy..... That MWLL was some sort of immaculately conceived wonder game, instead of the barely supported biggest that it really was.

The only myth greater than the igp funds absconding conspiracy..... That MWLL was some sort of immaculately conceived wonder game, instead of the barely supported biggest that it really was.

[Mystere]

Buddahcjcc, on 02 April 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

double post?

Hmm. It wasn't like that the first time I read it. Also, I have been seeing some double quotes too lately.

Has anyone else been getting database errors while reading/using the forums?

[Bishop Steiner]

*sigh*

Things have been buggy for me since the patch including a lot of double posts and such. Updating the driver seemed to help on game.... Until the whole dang thing went bloody mid match.

Some of these posts probably ain't being helped by this wimpy little. Windows phone I am using to post here in Mexico. Gotta get my photon unlocked.

[Devil Fox]

Still waiting on an official PGI post on this subject... afterall their PR department has had 4+ days to work their magic to make this disappear until the dev's finally bring it about a week prior to CW introduction. Considering the broken patch they released today, their just made their own workload so much larger... again.