I Use A Joystick In My Left Hand And A Mouse In My Right. People Say It "gimps" Me... How?
#41
Posted 04 April 2013 - 06:52 AM
I use solely a Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS setup with CH ProPedals to play this game and fare OK. Do not feel gimping myself the slightest. Sure you can swing the reticule around the screen at idiotical speeds with the mouse, but the torso itself does not move any faster than programmed. I have got so used to the joystick as used it since Closed Beta. And of course flight simming has made the use of it a 2nd nature in a way.
PGI has improved the peripheral support and hopefully refines it more in the future. This way you can cater to the both ends of the spectrum, m/kb to full HOTAS users and those in between. A true win win for all of us. No reason to loudmouth anyone for their style of playing.
#42
Posted 04 April 2013 - 06:55 AM
#43
Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:09 AM
I do not have any problems with that as using pedals to turn the Mech Every button needed is mapped to the throttle and joystick, even the TS PTT, so rarely need to even touch keyboard. Unless writing to chat or something.
#44
Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:12 AM
I find a HOTAS throttle is by far superior then a keyboard.
Reference I use a Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS X.
#45
Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:17 AM
Roadbeer, on 04 April 2013 - 06:48 AM, said:
This is applicable to basically all human endeavours. People just assume that they are the measure of the world, and have a really hard time seeing there might be other ways of doing things - some of which may actually be both smarter, easier, and more rewarding.
#46
Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:23 AM
slimebucket, on 04 April 2013 - 03:21 AM, said:
So some times bugs arise.
So I make a post about my problem. My problem only happens on my joystick, NOT ON the keyboard.
So I HAVE to say its my joystick.
So then the post gets filled with people bashing me about how I suck. 3 pages of insults so I tell them how lame they are being insulting me.. I made 1 post that wasn't even rude, or used any swears or was directed at any one person and my thread gets locked.
I just want to submit bugs, or figure out how to get my game working, not deal with getting insulted and having to be fearful of telling people I use a joystick.
Also I am not concerned with criticism at all. If it improves me I WELCOME IT.
My point is, people tell me it sucks and gimps me, but THEY DO NOT EVER SAY WHY. Thats why I am asking.
this is also mechwarrior, im pretty sure the reason this IP hasnt been picked up in 10 years is directly because of those people also throw in the fact that the internet, not beer, brings out peoples real personality free on the consequences of being punched in the mouth for being little punks
#47
Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:48 AM
I use the throttle in my left hand, mouse in the right. Joystick sits behind my monitor. Work well for me.
#48
Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:54 AM
#49
Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:10 AM
#50
Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:18 AM
My left hand stick. Have some footpedals as well. I use the a mouse for aiming though.
#51
Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:23 AM
The Left Hand Joystick + Mouse Aim is the best setup if you are attempting to use a Joystick while playing a Mech Warrior game. It gives you the precision aim capability.
http://www.mechwarri.../trm/Config.htm
Steering is less precise than aiming. So aiming should always be left to the mouse if you want to be the best shooter in the galaxy, or if you are pro at PC FPS games.
#52
Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:52 AM
PS: Now imagine a two joystick setup...
#53
Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:32 AM
#54
Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:55 AM
Works a dream, the rudder control (analogue) is perfect for steering a mech.
#55
Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:25 AM
GRay111111, on 04 April 2013 - 10:55 AM, said:
Works a dream, the rudder control (analogue) is perfect for steering a mech.
Don't know ... that's just the throttle right? where is the *left/right* controls?
I am starting to not like the keyboard for piloting the mech so I have been giving this some thought lately. In the old Mech Warrior games (and I mean really old) you just used the joystick, and that was fine ... back then. Now I am so used to using a mouse, I would not want to change that ... so mouse = aim with basic firing attributes.
So that leaves movement. What I used to like about the joystick was "torso twist" ... but that is now under the control of the mouse. What I don't like about the JS is throttle decay when returned to center. So that really doesn't leave much for the JS to do ... so I guess JS is out for me.
So if a keyboard is out, and a JS is out, what does that leave? a Gaming Pad with a HAT? The idea of a hat switch for left / right I think would work ... as well as forward / back being on the hat as well.
I really miss having keys/buttons for 1/3 and 2/3'rd speed settings ... as well as full throttle / full reverse keys / buttons and a good PAD with programmable keys could possibly take care of that? Is there a way to program in 33% throttle / 66% throttle?
#56
Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:38 AM
I'd love to see people tell me that I've gimped myself. (yeah, I'm pulling the I'm better than you at 80's stompy robuts and I know it card)
#57
Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:46 AM
See below the lights......I got each weapon group right there........All I gotta do is pull the switch.....easy.
#58
Posted 04 April 2013 - 01:57 PM
Kissamies, on 04 April 2013 - 04:16 AM, said:
To me, using the Y-axis for throttle is natural and doesn't strain my wrist at all. Not using the handle twist might have something to do with it. I have learned from my over a decade of playing FPS with a stick that constantly holding it forward may eventually break the stick's centering, though. Therefore, I tend to compromise. I use the keypad throttle when moving from point A to point B and stick Y-axis throttle when in actual combat.
I agree that the gimp comments are either trolling or come from the assumption that you use the stick to aim from those who don't bother to read your post. I do plan to try 2 stick combo one of these days just to see how it's like, but I don't expect aiming with stick to be very good.
I tried ....aiming with a stick is so frustrating if you do not own a really expensive stick that has a really high DPI(not sure if this is the term) it honestly feels like playing using a console controller but worse. Aim left.. too far, back right, too far, back left, too far... yeah, it's fun sure, but incredibly frustrating.
#59
Posted 04 April 2013 - 02:01 PM
NOTE: The mouse is awfully close to the right stick - makes sniping a bit quicker and easier... (again better JS support in-game would be nice).
#60
Posted 04 April 2013 - 02:06 PM
Gimping "NO", best of both worlds without having to use a flight stick..?? YUP
Edited by Odins Fist, 04 April 2013 - 02:06 PM.
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