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[B E E L Z E B U B]

i have been a heavy/assault pilot since day 1. but recently i have found my true love.
funny, but i think playing assault mechs this whole time has made me an expert light mech pilot.
when i got in that spider the first thing i made sure of, was.. that it had ecm. there are a lot of RVN-3Ls and COM-2Ds using streaks out there and i didnt want to get eaten alive. i knew ecm is OP but i didnt care, i wanted it for protection against streaks.
then i got DHS and Endo steel. i then put inside it the biggest XL engine that fit and stuffed it with 3 pulse ML, 12 m of jetpacks and as many DHSs as i could
its a spider built for the kill. or should i say built for the troll (almost looks like a little troll too).
my first round with this was astonishing, i loved every little bit about it. FAST as hell, small and quick, dodging 4 AC2s like neo in the matrix, with no sweat. it was amazing, i even got 2 kills with it, which one of whom was a brand new pink hero mech. i was singing the music out loud as i had no in game speakers like the Heavy Metal does.
the only way this mech will be hard to play is if they bring back collisions.
until then, i think this little devil should be a lot more popular than it is right now.
i guess people think spiders arent capable mechs, maybe they think they can only scout.
but what i found out is that spiders are very dangerous, in a good match you can get up to about 500 damage and 3 maybe 4 kills with it.
anyone else had this expirience?
or maybe this is all do to the fact that my light class elo score is possibly low?

[MadPanda]

Spiders are fun. Only thing you need to let go is hopes of winning the game and getting kills. Not saying you can't get both, but the big weigth (literally) is on the rest of your team. I also went from assault/heavies to the spider and that is the biggest realisation I've had. Forget about trying to win and try to have fun, the win will come if your team is up for it.

[Hayashi]

Nothing surprising, it just means you're a good pilot.

Raven 3Ls can breach 700 damage though, and JR7-Fs, 900... =D

[Carrioncrows]

Boom headshot



Spiders have the capacity to be some of the best light fighters in the game.....unless the other guy has streaks. Which is why I advocate just removing streaks. They create so many problems I don't even care about fixing them anymore, i just want them gone until they can be fixed.

*Sigh*

I would love to run my spiders, commandos and jenners, you know all the other mechs without ECM + Streaks but honestly i've just given up, it is way to frustrating considering the sheer number of raven-3l's floating around out there.

Edited by Carrioncrows, 05 April 2013 - 03:15 AM.

[AnnoyingCat]

Roll in a 100 ton mech or you are doing it wrong

[stjobe]

Now do the same with a 5K.

The 5D is the best of the bunch, not only because it mounts ECM, but because it has a whopping three energy hardpoints.

The 5V only has two energy hardpoints (both in CT), and the 5K has one. And four useless ballistic slots.

It's nimble, sure. But that doesn't help you get damage and kills - and hence you won't get much XP/CB in them. My 5K has an average XP/match of only 350 or so.

[B E E L Z E B U B]

stjobe, on 05 April 2013 - 03:28 AM, said:

Now do the same with a 5K.

The 5D is the best of the bunch, not only because it mounts ECM, but because it has a whopping three energy hardpoints.

The 5V only has two energy hardpoints (both in CT), and the 5K has one. And four useless ballistic slots.

It's nimble, sure. But that doesn't help you get damage and kills - and hence you won't get much XP/CB in them. My 5K has an average XP/match of only 350 or so.

ahh yes, forgot about the money part. devs should make it more profitable then.. i mean a good scout can mean the difference between victory and defeat.

[Zylo]

Carrioncrows, on 05 April 2013 - 03:07 AM, said:

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Spiders have the capacity to be some of the best light fighters in the game.....unless the other guy has streaks. Which is why I advocate just removing streaks. They create so many problems I don't even care about fixing them anymore, i just want them gone until they can be fixed.

*Sigh*

I would love to run my spiders, commandos and jenners, you know all the other mechs without ECM + Streaks but honestly i've just given up, it is way to frustrating considering the sheer number of raven-3l's floating around out there.

I suspect streaks will get some minor changes after collision knockdowns are returned. All lights are currently a bit OP since they can just hug a larger mech that may not be able to aim low enough to hit them but if collision knockdowns were returned this would no longer be possible.

I still run the Raven 3L and will continue to do so until collision knockdowns are returned. Then I'll probably go back to my DDC when I can knock down all those lights that get too close to me.

My favorite trick is getting a single enemy light to follow me while 1 of my other corpmates is waiting out of sight in another 3L. Then he jumps in behind and we rip that enemy light apart in a matter of seconds.

Sorry, sometimes I just enjoy being mean to other lights. It's nothing personal.

[Jimmy Page]

I love Spiders. My favorite is the 5K which everyone says is the worst in the game. They are great for distracting heavy mechs allowing your team to focus fire on them. I don't get many kills and those i do get are luck ones. I just look for team wins. I even took an AC20 to the face while jumpjetting in front of my teams DDC because i was about to die anyway. I love the ECM spider too, it's a bit more forgiving. And i agree, just REMOVE streaks from the game, auto hit is stupid. All problems solved.

[stjobe]

Karma Police, on 05 April 2013 - 03:31 AM, said:

ahh yes, forgot about the money part. devs should make it more profitable then.. i mean a good scout can mean the difference between victory and defeat.

Indeed it can, but sadly the game only rewards damage and kills. Scouting, relaying target info, TAGging/NARCing, capping etc gives only a trickle of XP/CB - while every point of damage you do gives XP/CB, and every kill/assist you make gives XP/CB twice if you're a bit lucky (Saviour/Defensive kills/assists).

There's almost zero incentive to run a light as anything other than a Striker in the current state of the game.

[Shepherd]

I'm really trying to like the Spider chassis, but it just isn't doing it for me. Compared to my stable of Jenners, the Spiders just don't offer me very much. Better jumping? Yes Spiders do that, but do I really need better jumping? Debatable. Better speed? Yes, Spiders do offer better speed, and there have been many times when my slower Jenner has paid the price for not being faster.

I guess right now I'm of the opinion that the Jenner gives me enough speed, so long as I'm not playing dumb, and since it has better armor and weapons payload it's better in all other respects (I agree with stjobe's argument).

However I can see that the Spider CAN be a great mech if it's in good hands and if the team it is in is willing to make use of the recon data it can gather.

[Xendojo]

My RVN-4X with with 2LL and an SRM4:

can break 800 DMG on a really good match, but usually it stays around 500 DMG per match which is fine IMO for a hit & run playstyle. But then again....that's without ECM or streaks so maybe i'm i'm doing better than i think?

Edited by Xendojo, 05 April 2013 - 03:59 AM.

[Corvus Antaka]

687 Damage in a Spider.

Spiders RULE!!!

[Disapirro]

My favorite mech to play by far. Not sure what it is exactly, but it seems to have an intagible benefit. Could be the scouting, or it could be the disruption it causes when you are slicing through enemy lines, but whatever it is I win more with it.

Mech' Matches Played Wins Losses Ratio Kills Deaths Ratio Damage Done XP Earned Time Played Dmg / Match
SPIDER SDR-5D 86 52 33 1.58 36 37 0.97 18,055 46,545 8:28:47 210

Edited by Disapirro, 05 April 2013 - 05:01 AM.

[Klaa]

The need for speed.

[Chavette]

Carrioncrows, on 05 April 2013 - 03:07 AM, said:

Boom headshot



Spiders have the capacity to be some of the best light fighters in the game.....unless the other guy has streaks. Which is why I advocate just removing streaks. They create so many problems I don't even care about fixing them anymore, i just want them gone until they can be fixed.

*Sigh*

I would love to run my spiders, commandos and jenners, you know all the other mechs without ECM + Streaks but honestly i've just given up, it is way to frustrating considering the sheer number of raven-3l's floating around out there.

Seems like you have a video today for everything

[Corvus Antaka]

man if SSRMS where pulled from lights fights would actually be challenging. ssrms need to relock after every firing and / or do less dmg, right now they are still such easymode for light fights its sad.

[Training Instructor]

I think a fair temporary fix for streaks would be to have them curve back around and crash into the cockpit of any mech that fires them if they're south of 40 tons.

[DevilJade]

I use the 5D and 5V a lot. The 5D with arm mounted ERPPC is a blast to play. Sitting at 3.2 KDR with it right now.

[CrunchTheRobot]

I absolutely love my SDR-5D. It's completely possible to do well in this. Heck, this thing can defeat a RVN-3L in a 1v1 circle of death, since not being affected by enemy ECM and having lower arm actuators are glorious.

Besides, it's crazy fun to get to the highest point on Alpine or Tourmaline and jump as far as you can off them.