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[TibsVT]

There is no proof they haven't already got it right. Or at least have some concrete concept as to how to balance them. They could just be attempting to draw in a larger market at risk of losing players. If the odds are good enough they may forsee it profitable.

There is no solid evidence that supports a lack of balance over a marketing ploy so I really wish people would stop assuming that's the reason. After all, if they were that concerned about the Clan implementation something would have been hinted at by now. Instead PGI has blatantly said there is no reason to rollback the timeline nor have they chose to comment on the Clan stuff ahead of time. On top of that they have mentioned their growth has been steady; to me that screams marketing.

Edited by KelesK, 09 April 2013 - 09:35 PM.

[Halwin]

Forgive me for pointing this out but this is just a beta it will probably reset or some thing when it goes to vanilla like it did when we went from closed to open beta i have have yet to find any thing saying that they would not again

Edited by Halwin, 09 April 2013 - 10:43 PM.

[JuiceKeeper]

@halwin if this would be proper beta we would be testing clan tech in the end of last year or if development slipped we would be testing it right now. which obviousli isnt happening so beta tag is getting little bit useless when we cant see second part of game and we can just quess it will dont brake gameplay when it will be implemented. This indicates just 2 things one is they dont have lot ready for clans atm and they even didnt started (excuse to milk cash from IS mechs for whole year i can imagine that might work) to let the players to buy most of IS hero mechs and mechs so they earn cash firstly on them and then release all clan tech to milk those same people once again. So personaly i think they will come around end of this year or maybe even next one under excuse of balancing or something similar so even future clanners will keep buying mech which they wouldnt need if clans would be out. personaly i was really looking forward for march date and 1:1 !!!!! wasnt done in any other game so far but they missed it :\. I was looking forward to fight uneven matches getting smashed by clanners or smashing some IS in first 4 waves but didnt happened. I am curious when and how they will roll out content becouse i dont wanna attack them or anything but it start to looks like more and more like marketing releasing of content and not to test stuff in beta.

[TibsVT]

Halwin, on 09 April 2013 - 10:36 PM, said:

Forgive me for pointing this out but this is just a beta it will probably reset or some thing when it goes to vanilla like it did when we went from closed to open beta i have have yet to find any thing saying that they would not again

This is a rather obsolete comment. Resetting or not I'd like to play content. All of us are well aware that they may reset upon release, it's not uncommon, however how can they reset the stuff we blatantly do not have. This isn't a discussion of losing our 'Mech XP/GXP, this is a conversation on how PGI is milking the money out of us while constantly waving the Clan tech we are, at this stage of the timeline, entitled to.

They have said that players will be able to join the invading Clans by doing something. Open it up and let us do it already unless of course they plan on draging this pathetic marketing ploy out longer then it needs to.

I know there are dedicated I.S. players out there who want to have a crack at the dedicated Clanners and I'm sure this situation upsets them just as much as it does us.

Edited by KelesK, 10 April 2013 - 04:19 AM.

[William Warriors]

So much for the 1 day is 1 day 3050, no wonder they are shying away from the real news of clan hitting the inner sphere.

Cowards.

[Lord Ikka]

CW properly implemented and stable, with a few months of steady competition is more important than Clans right now. Once that is in, the Clans will be posed for a decent showing.

[TibsVT]

Lord Ikka, on 10 April 2013 - 05:32 AM, said:

CW properly implemented and stable, with a few months of steady competition is more important than Clans right now. Once that is in, the Clans will be posed for a decent showing.

As lore goes, no. If we leave it that long it will be November next year before the Clans get any kind of showing. PGI leeched us all, period.

Not to mention CW is a straight forward system. It's not rocket science that goes into taking a bunch of people from column A and column B and throwing them against each other. It's basically a filtered version of what ever matchmaking system we use already. On top of this most people in player-made clans already all play as the same faction so its pointless. Also I can hardly see CW being so grandiose as to implement planets any time within the year. With the current pace of development, I simply cannot see it happening. All you will likely get is a shadow of what was promised.

All it gives you in return is loyalty points to gather for some unknown "prize". Utterly pointless for a Clanner as the loyalty points will mean nothing once they jump ship to their respected Clan. I've said it before and I'll say it again; I signed up for MechWarrior Online, not Inner Sphere Online.

At this point in time I think it's safe to say that we will not play our part until at least November next year when the Invasion reignites. Congrats I.S. sooks, you got your wish.

Edited by KelesK, 10 April 2013 - 06:28 AM.

[Dr Killinger]

It's just some fancy mechs. Community warfare and other features are far more important. By a very long shot.

[Hawkeye 72]

Dr Killinger, on 10 April 2013 - 06:13 AM, said:

It's just some fancy mechs. Community warfare and other features are far more important. By a very long shot.

I must disagree. It may be fancy mechs to some people, but to others it is their faction they will identify with, just as the FRR is for you. While factions are meaningless at the moment, it still provides an organizational pivot for these units. Obviously Community Warfare is more important, because it is what gives any of these factions and mercenaries groups any meaning. But as far as other features besides content, I fail to see what else has priority.

And unlike some posters here I do not feel PGI has given us the shaft. As I said earlier, delays happen in development. It's normal. I am just expressing my disappointment from the Ask the Devs 35 answer that was given and its implications. This news may mean squat to some players here, but to some of us this is a small letdown. Granted I knew playing as the Clans this spring was not realistic, but summer still held optimism, even for an announcement of some sort

[Velraz]

i think its rather intresting how people think of the canon here just to update you on the status of the inner sphere yes the clans are atacking but no normally you would not know
as a normal soldier in whatever houses army or even as a mercenary despite beeing on some of these worlds for unfortunate reasons you would not know **** about the clans right now you would not know that there are battles somewhere in the periphery and even if you would it would be yeah some pirates some world nobody cares about why should i

it makes little to no sense implementing the events you stat here because the story is already told one side won the other lost where the fun beeing in a battle like that there iss no objective to achieve nothing but death for the inner sphere right now what kind of game would that make at this point got there and watch a videosequence of yourself beeing helplessly overrun by clans ?

(even if i think that would be an awesome ending scenario for the beta phase)

in my opinion it all make sense right now for both sides and even if i can´t wait to get my hands on clantech i think its worth the wait and community warfare will be a much better feature at this time

[Hawkeye 72]

Lucien Stray, on 10 April 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

i think its rather intresting how people think of the canon here just to update you on the status of the inner sphere yes the clans are atacking but no normally you would not know
as a normal soldier in whatever houses army or even as a mercenary despite beeing on some of these worlds for unfortunate reasons you would not know **** about the clans right now you would not know that there are battles somewhere in the periphery and even if you would it would be yeah some pirates some world nobody cares about why should i

it makes little to no sense implementing the events you stat here because the story is already told one side won the other lost where the fun beeing in a battle like that there iss no objective to achieve nothing but death for the inner sphere right now what kind of game would that make at this point got there and watch a videosequence of yourself beeing helplessly overrun by clans ?

(even if i think that would be an awesome ending scenario for the beta phase)

in my opinion it all make sense right now for both sides and even if i can´t wait to get my hands on clantech i think its worth the wait and community warfare will be a much better feature at this time

First...holy crappy use some punctuation please.

Second, MWO was gifted with the opportunity to tweak canon (see hero mechs). While perhaps in the books Rasalhague falls, maybe present the players with a campaign to save it, or hold on until the Prince is safely extracted. There were ways we could have actively participated if we used some imagination.

Third, I am so tired of people claiming to know the fiction and say that people are clueless in the Inner Sphere and still blaming "pirates". By the end of April/May most of the Inner Sphere high commands (FedCom, DC, FRR) know 90% of all the info about the Clans. The only two major pieces of intel they are unaware of is their origins and their motivation for invading. By this summer troops are being debriefed on them because the successor states are throwing regiments at the Clans to slow them down. Sure Comstar isn't broadcasting news, but the Successor States know information is being intentionally witheld. Regardless, Clan warfare would make sense by June/July.

[TibsVT]

They'd know our motivation if they'd ever let us play the damn things...

[Pando]

Ask 35 is the reason I'm taking a break. A long one.

[Manny Rhyde]

it's a possiblity that these events like Tukkayid and the battle of Luthien will not happen, but we will have events unique to only MWO so there will be large scale battles, but not the ones from canon.

[General Taskeen]

Meh "invasions" 40 times in a row on River City Night? Meh.

[Raptor Khatib]

I'll take 40 Invasions of River city at night if i was riding in my Timber Wolf. Hell based on the cannon configs using the current slot system I already have about 8 variants planned that would send an atlas running home screaming bloody murder.

[Uncle Totty]

manny082, on 12 April 2013 - 06:21 PM, said:

it's a possiblity that these events like Tukkayid......will not happen...

I may never take part in what could be Clan Wolf's greatest military victory EVER?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[CHH Badkarma]

Just saddens me to have to wait even longer. Many of us have been clansmen since NBT and before now have flocked to this game, Waiting to the chance to begin our homecoming. Guess we will wait and see, and then wait some more

Edited by Jason Radick, 13 April 2013 - 04:04 PM.

[Daneel Hazen]

I'm just happy to be living the dream at some point. The corruption of the Inner Sphere disgusts me.

[TibsVT]

Miragezero, on 13 April 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

I'm just happy to be living the dream at some point. The corruption of the Inner Sphere disgusts me.

The way things are going none of us will be living the dream. Unless your dream is Inner Sphere of course.