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[Smk]

MischiefSC, on 09 April 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

If it'd be released with the rest of the Highlanders I was going to buy it - even at $35, I figured PGI had earned some more money from me I've played the game plenty. Not real enthused with the 'hero mech released 2 weeks early' thing though so I've decided to just buy the regular ones when they come out and have found myself not playing much the last week.

See them all over though. Tons of people did buy them, it's rare to drop in a match that doesn't have at least one Heavy Metal if not a couple on each side.

We'll see what happens with the next hero mech though. All the people with low impulse control and minimal patience bought the mech and now can't even get speed tweak or any of the Elite perks for 2 weeks after they bought it. What we'll probably see is a correspondingly small response to the next hero mech as all the impatient folks are getting taught to associate buying a hero mech for a huge pile of money with a corresponding sense of frustration.

Or not. We'll see. Taken in and of itself though the Heavy Metal clearly sold like an SOB.

Yeah I need that speed tweak for the extra 5 kph. Whatever am I going to do without it. If the next hero mech is any good I'll consider buying it regardless of when it is released. I doubt it will be very impressive though unless it's a clan mech considering we're going back to light mechs now.

[MischiefSC]

Smk, on 09 April 2013 - 05:35 PM, said:

Yeah I need that speed tweak for the extra 5 kph. Whatever am I going to do without it. If the next hero mech is any good I'll consider buying it regardless of when it is released. I doubt it will be very impressive though unless it's a clan mech considering we're going back to light mechs now.

Speed tweak on an atlas is pretty much the difference between rocking it and being rocked. Elite unlocks are pretty significant in competitive matches but whatever floats your boat.

We'll see how it turns out. I'm glad PGI is making money - there's a big difference though between people buying something because they are excited about it and it's an option they chose and a sense of 'if you want it now you have to pay extra'. It's the difference in many ways between someone coming in to buy something and someone being sold something. It has a pretty significant impact on 30/60/90 day churn and buyers remorse. Because Heros and the like don't offer a significant edge for the money you want to make sure everyone is as happy as possible with their purchases or market fatigue, the slow trickle of people getting burned out by feeling sold to or 'saturated', will bleed your sales off over time.

That's all armchair marketing crap though, I'm the first to say that. However you have to admit that some people didn't like how it was handled. Some people didn't feel good about the prices they've paid for their hero mechs after the fact. The question is are you bringing in enough new people wanting to buy new stuff to replace the trickle who feels burned or dissatisfied.

One opinion on it is the same as any other though. We'll see how it plays out.

[Xx Albain xX]

30 dollars on a mech is insane. If they were 5-10$ I would buy them all, companies don't seem to understand this.

[Ilwrath]

Xx Albain xX, on 09 April 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

30 dollars on a mech is insane. If they were 5-10$ I would buy them all, companies don't seem to understand this.

Its not different from spending 30 dollars on something else. If you are a starving children in Africa,, well then it would be insane to spend 30 $ on a digital toy in a silly online game. But we are not starving children in Africa. I am even White and happy with that. So its okay for us to waste our cash on whatever we feel like wasting it on. It does not matter unless it makes us feel bad for some reason. Giving the devs cash for the game as it is now makes me feel like **** so I don't.

I would rather give 30 $ to some random junkie on the street than spend it on this game right now.

[Xx Albain xX]

Ilwrath, on 10 April 2013 - 01:41 AM, said:

Its not different from spending 30 dollars on something else. If you are a starving children in Africa,, well then it would be insane to spend 30 $ on a digital toy in a silly online game. But we are not starving children in Africa. I am even White and happy with that. So its okay for us to waste our cash on whatever we feel like wasting it on. It does not matter unless it makes us feel bad for some reason. Giving the devs cash for the game as it is now makes me feel like **** so I don't.

I would rather give 30 $ to some random junkie on the street than spend it on this game right now.

I do not know why i am even responding to you your post made no sense at all. My point is if these mechs were rare and you only bought 2 or 3 a year ok, but there are tons of mechs to buy + the other things in the game to spend money on. I firmly believe they would make much more money if they lowered the prices.

[Aim-Bot]

Still wonder why people are suprised about Hero mech pricing.

1 TON Hero Mech = 75 MC

Calculate yourself

[Solomon Ward]

I rather have PGI earn money via Hero mechs than upping prices for things which effect everyone with more impact -
like mechbays for 1k MC.

You get your Highlanders next Tuesday.

[Ohsh]

FarEYE, on 09 April 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

The way I see it if something in this game like a hero mech costs something like 1 drink at a bar people don't bat an eye to spending $5-$10 on something. I notice other games I play are priced accordingly. However $30-$35 is like a night of drinking. Now instead of saving money by buying something in this game and playing all night, it is priced equivalently or even more than going out, since I know my bartenders and they hook me up, unlike PGI.

you dont drink very much do you


necroposting is fine by me ok

Edited by Ohsh, 10 April 2013 - 02:28 AM.

[Kyynele]

A large part of the target audience of MWO is obviously people like me who enjoyed MW2 and other old games of the brand. Most of these people are pretty much guaranteed to have jobs at this point, and thus have money available to spend. The target audience is these people, not 1 billion random casuals who would spend 10c in the game, because MWO will never have that kind of mass appeal even if the prices were ridiculously low.

You can be target audience of the game gameplaywise, without being target audience monetizationwise. This is why they're not going to lower the prices even if they don't fit your budget even if you love the game. If the prices are too high for you, just enjoy what you get for free. I think it's a pretty sweet deal for nothing.

I have only 1 friend who hasn't bought a hero mech yet, and even he buys premium time. 1 of my friends has the HM. I have 3 heros. The prices are good, a bit on the high side but still easily affordable if you want it. Honestly I would still pay a lot more than 30$ for a mad cat or a marauder.

[MustrumRidcully]

Quxudica, on 09 April 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

Same, 10 bucks is at the extreme end of what I'd consider paying in any F2P. These are supposed to be Micro-Transactions, there's nothing micro about paying over half what a new AAA game costs.

Wouldn't it be cool if instead of however many are currently buying them at 35 $, 5 times as many buy it at 7 $?

Mustrum "Gold Sponge" Ridcully

[Thomas Covenant]

NRP, on 09 April 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

Well, I suppose you sponges should be glad that there are those of us who do actually spend money to keep the game you love to hate afloat.

If it was even $10 there would be more buyers than $30 for ever one right now.

[Alpha087]

If Hero mechs were cheaper then everyone would have one and they wouldn't feel very heroic anymore... While I do consider them too expensive for my taste, I'd rather have a mech with a custom paint job anyways.

[Ilwrath]

F2p stinks and its mission is to charge you far more than you would ever pay for a normal game, or even an entire series of normal games. That is if you go along with it and actually pay anything at all.

So either don't spend jack **** and enjoy the core game, the core game is 95% of this game and it is fine (for what it is)

Or do spend cash to get all the game has to offer but be ready to spend insane amounts of cash then.

That is what makes it so hard to spend cash on this game. its like signing a declaration of your stupidity. Or lack of life if you really don't have anything better to waste cash on.

If it was a bug free product with lots of contents like game modes and maps, and maybe even a LOBBY! Maybe then it would be okay to spend cash on this (apart from teh founders) but this is a buggy alpha with few maps, enforced map selection and a downright horrid community with little punks that think its just fine to let pubbie players face premades. Yesterday I even saw some ******* thinking it would be nice to increase the premade size to 6+ when 12 man arrives.

Edited by Ilwrath, 10 April 2013 - 03:10 AM.

[Kyynele]

Ilwrath, on 10 April 2013 - 03:10 AM, said:

That is what makes it so hard to spend cash on this game. its like signing a declaration of your stupidity. Or lack of life if you really don't have anything better to waste cash on.

So wasting more time on a game to get the same amount of C-Bills equals to having a life, and using a little bit of money to get that last 5% extra fun getting more ingame stuff in less time spent means you don't have a life AND are stupid?

A couple hundred of dollars isn't insane amounts of cash.

[F lan Ker]

S!

I did support PGI with buying the Legendary Founder pack + some MC after that too for buying the Fang. Even I was ridiculously tempted to get the Highlander I want to try out the regular ones first to see if they fit my play style and how they perform. The bane called F2P is here with it's more or less "micro transactions" so just have to live with it or go play other games.It all just boils down for me what I look for in the game. Simulation? Not MWO but DCS series and IL-2. FPS? Arma 3 or DayZ or such. Matter of preference really. I agree though that PGI could slightly adjust the pricing policy to lower the threshold of throwing money and credit cards on the screen

[Ilwrath]

Kyynele, on 10 April 2013 - 03:26 AM, said:

A couple hundred of dollars isn't insane amounts of cash.

A couple hundreds of dollars is kinda expensive for a game compared to what they used to cost. But people has spent far more on this game. We are talking about k's of $. That is when you are crossing the border into lala-land.

Edited by Ilwrath, 10 April 2013 - 03:52 AM.

[F lan Ker]

S!

Well, if you spend thousands of local currency to a game PGI should send you a free T-shirt with text Disposable Income, PGI thanks You! After that you could of course run to the forums and get a self appointed right to pound chest and point out that you are the reason why leechers can play this game. /end sarcasm.

[MrPenguin]

Quxudica, on 09 April 2013 - 11:44 AM, said:

A fool and his money..

I'm sorry that you can't accept this is how the market functions.
The majority will always be the ones to determine the price of the items. And the majority are buying hero mechs as/is.

Theirs no reason for PGI to lower the price when most people are buying them as is. A thread which says "I think hero mechs are overpriced" won't change there minds when the amount of money flowing in is saying otherwise.

It especially doesn't help when most people here are hypocrites and tend to buy said hero mech anyway.

[Kyynele]

Ilwrath, on 10 April 2013 - 03:51 AM, said:

A couple hundreds of dollars is kinda expensive for a game compared to what they used to cost. But people has spent far more on this game. We are talking about k's of $. That is when you are crossing the border into lala-land.

Depends a lot on how you view it all. Considering how much time I get to spend with my irl friends in the game, it feels more like a team sport hobby than playing a more traditional game like Skyrim. My other hobbies cost way more money than I put in MWO even though I actually spend less time in those.

[Joseph Mallan]

Rizzelbizzeg, on 09 April 2013 - 11:30 AM, said:

Sure, pay $30 for a "full game", play through it once, and never go back after you beat that final boss.

OR pay $30 for a mech and wreck face for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours...

You could always ask for a bigger allowance?

I bought two of them or alt-accounts.