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#1 Leonnorus

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:07 AM

HUD Bug, Map bug (disappeared map, multi-color map, torso twist bug), Kalidescope bug, IFF bug (missing and missing on zoom bugs), various graphics glitches, maps with invisible holes to get stuck in... the list goes on and on. These make the game nearly unplayable in 25-50% of matches and fully unplayable with the dreaded HUD bug. I haven't seen these bugs get better, they are only getting worse. Why isn't something being done about these issues? "It's only a Beta test!" is the default answer. If that's the case, then why are we seeing the release of new content (maps and mechs), the progression of storyline and continual 'sales'? These are things you do during a LIVE version of a game. You don't release new content during a beta test, you work out the bugs in the main graphics engine/client, see if there are any glaring balance issues, etc. It's seeming more and more like this whole "Beta Test" is just a cop-out used to justify an extremely buggy game so that the $$ keeps rolling in. Personally, I'm no longer spending any more $$ (and I've spent around $100 already) on a game that becomes more unplayable with time.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:08 AM

This thread is new and exciting.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:08 AM

Take a break. Read a book. Go outside. Come back when this gets fixed.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:10 AM

Hello new thread

Welcome to K Town



#5 Leonnorus

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:14 AM

The fact that this post was instantaneously removed from the general discussion forum tells me EXCACTLY the kind of mentatlity I'm dealing with. My position has now moved from "no $$ till bugs are fixed" to "no $$ EVER". Censorship will not be tolerated!

Edited by Leonnorus, 13 April 2013 - 09:14 AM.


#6 Daggett

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:33 AM

I just spend 15$ last weekend to support this great game because the fun i have exceeds the problems with bugs.

And i see that bugs are getting fixed over time (for example the dreaded yellow-screen bug is gone), and that the devs listen to the community (for instance they changed their planned consumables design due to community feedback).

Sure, it would be great that some bugs would be fixed faster, but every programmer knows that some things are really hard to fix and take ages.

Oh, and creating content is not limited to the retail version of the game. Each and every game in beta i know of has released new content during beta and will continue to do so.
The guys who create content like mechs and maps are artists, and not programmers. They simply can't fix any bug and this is the reason why EACH game developer always brings new content regardless on the number and severity of bugs the game has.

And do you want to know why your post was jettisoned?
Because it is a rage/troll post without any motivation to start a rational discussion. This simply does not belong in the 'General Discussion' Forum.

BTW: You are playing the game for about 1 month now. That's not a long time to state that the bugs "are getting worse". You simply have no time-frame to base your comparison on.

#7 Leonnorus

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:40 AM

View PostDaggett, on 13 April 2013 - 09:33 AM, said:

I just spend 15$ last weekend to support this great game because the fun i have exceeds the problems with bugs.

And i see that bugs are getting fixed over time (for example the dreaded yellow-screen bug is gone), and that the devs listen to the community (for instance they changed their planned consumables design due to community feedback).

Sure, it would be great that some bugs would be fixed faster, but every programmer knows that some things are really hard to fix and take ages.

Oh, and creating content is not limited to the retail version of the game. Each and every game in beta i know of has released new content during beta and will continue to do so.
The guys who create content like mechs and maps are artists, and not programmers. They simply can't fix any bug and this is the reason why EACH game developer always brings new content regardless on the number and severity of bugs the game has.

And do you want to know why your post was jettisoned?
Because it is a rage/troll post without any motivation to start a rational discussion. This simply does not belong in the 'General Discussion' Forum.

BTW: You are playing the game for about 1 month now. That's not a long time to state that the bugs "are getting worse". You simply have no time-frame to base your comparison on.



I've been playing since December. I didn't make a forum account until more recently.

Why is it trolling to be angered at buying a defective product? If you go to the store and buy a product and it sucks or is broken you return it and tell others not to buy it. This is the online equivalent. I'm not trying to start a "rational discussion" as you call it since, imo, there is nothing to dicsuss. I'm expressing my displeasure with this product and encouraging others to withhold further funds until it is fixed. Period.

Edited by Leonnorus, 13 April 2013 - 09:47 AM.


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 12:37 PM

View PostLeonnorus, on 13 April 2013 - 09:40 AM, said:



I've been playing since December. I didn't make a forum account until more recently.

Why is it trolling to be angered at buying a defective product? If you go to the store and buy a product and it sucks or is broken you return it and tell others not to buy it. This is the online equivalent. I'm not trying to start a "rational discussion" as you call it since, imo, there is nothing to dicsuss. I'm expressing my displeasure with this product and encouraging others to withhold further funds until it is fixed. Period.


You literally cannot play without a forums account.


You don't need to post to play, but it helps.


Anyway,

Holla Holla, Get Dollaz

#9 Leonnorus

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 01:45 PM

View PostGearBoxClock, on 13 April 2013 - 12:37 PM, said:


You literally cannot play without a forums account.


You don't need to post to play, but it helps.


Anyway,

Holla Holla, Get Dollaz


All I can tell you is that I've been playing since December. Whatever date it shows on my profile is inaccurate.

#10 Daggett

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 04:12 PM

View PostLeonnorus, on 13 April 2013 - 09:40 AM, said:

Why is it trolling to be angered at buying a defective product? If you go to the store and buy a product and it sucks or is broken you return it and tell others not to buy it. This is the online equivalent. I'm not trying to start a "rational discussion" as you call it since, imo, there is nothing to dicsuss. I'm expressing my displeasure with this product and encouraging others to withhold further funds until it is fixed. Period.

You can't compare a physical product to an evolving online game.
If the product sucks, no one can do a patch and make it work unless it is a software problem in your product.

And physical products can always be produced broken. Absolutely no company is able to only produce 100% working products.
So if you return such a broken product and then write a bad review, than you are doing the exact thing as you are doing here: You are doing the company/developer wrong.

And seriously, no one cares if you stop spending money, there is no need to encouraging others. If they feel the same as you, they will stop spending all by themselves.
This is why your OP has no substance and helps no one.

And if you really were playing since December, then why didn't you mentioned that the bugs you are facing were nearly all introduced with the latest patch? We all agree that this patch was a bad one, but this is no reason to imply that the devs are as evil as you state.

Before that patch the game had not that much serious bugs. The only one that bugged me was the freeze bug.
Most other serious bugs like the yellow-screen bug have been fixed by PGI, so your argument that PGI does nothing to improve the game stability is void.

Oh, and "It's beta" is the default answer from the community, not the devs themselves.
This is another false accusation made by you. B)

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:12 PM

View PostLeonnorus, on 13 April 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:


All I can tell you is that I've been playing since December. Whatever date it shows on my profile is inaccurate.


I've been playing since before beta opened and yet, assuming that your original post is in any way accurate, I have not had anywhere near as many issues as you.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 10:32 PM

this game was in my head and I told it to some stranger named russ at a rest stop on I-95 back in ought-seven.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 12:48 AM

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 05:13 AM

Does this topic mean no money for anything? No nudey magazines? No more pop tarts? No more cheap hooch? Deal breaker if that is the case! It seems so broad! No bling?!!!!

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Edited by IceCase88, 16 April 2013 - 05:16 AM.


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 05:18 AM

View PostTexas Merc, on 13 April 2013 - 10:32 PM, said:

this game was in my head and I told it to some stranger named russ at a rest stop on I-95 back in ought-seven.


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Rest stops? They are the bath houses of the 90s.

#16 Voridan Atreides

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 06:09 AM

:P That is fine....it's a F2P game after all...

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 12:56 AM

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:47 PM

Or Fast and Furious.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 09:48 PM

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