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[JayVrb]

Lore? Balance? Oversight?

Sarna says "Space is made by removing the jump jets" for that variant... but I can "remove the jump jets" from my C2

Edited by Vrbas, 13 April 2013 - 01:17 PM.

[jeffsw6]

To make me QQ I would buy a K2 if it could use JJs.

[One Medic Army]

The stock variant had no jumpjets, therefore the variant has no jumpjet hardpoints.

From a game balance standpoint, if it did have JJs it would probably be the goto poptart rather than the 3D.

[Adridos]

Canon.

Technically, you cannot remove the JJs from your C2.

Besides, it's not like K2 wasn't the very best in the game since closed beta and still is really great.

[Team Leader]

Yes

[Yokaiko]

No real need with the Pharct -3D in the game.

[l4Dl]

Joke answer = It just cant handle it
Serious answer = Game/mech pool Balance

Most mechs have a few "non-jumpers", its all about balance.

[JayVrb]

Tell me how it breaks balance of the game.

[neviu]

[BoPop]

i wish centurions had jj

[Royalewithcheese]

It wouldn't be terribly unbalanced if it had JJs, but you would be seeing yet another poptart at that point.

[Yokaiko]

Royalewithcheese, on 13 April 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

It wouldn't be terribly unbalanced if it had JJs, but you would be seeing yet another poptart at that point.

You can poptart with a C1

[N0ni]

I can only imagine how many threads would be about a poptarting K2 with two AC/20s if it did have jumpjets. Not only that, but complaining that the Jager wouldn't be viable against it.

[Bloody Moon]

We'll have more jump capable "poptart" mechs in the future so i don't miss the K2 not having them.

[Victor Morson]

JJs are based on which canon variants have JJs. It's the way they went with the conversion. That is all.

[General Taskeen]

Adridos, on 13 April 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

Canon.

Not necessarily. More like 'canon realism' for balance purposes in a Mech game. Any Mech can build anything with open rules in TT.

[Aklor]

Why can't my Atlas do 150 kph? other mechs can.

[Stone Profit]

Vrbas, on 13 April 2013 - 01:16 PM, said:

Lore? Balance? Oversight?

Sarna says "Space is made by removing the jump jets" for that variant... but I can "remove the jump jets" from my C2

Lore. Canon. Take your pick, other than the fact that they are the same thing.

[Corvus Antaka]

mm jumpjets with dual gauss and tiny side torsos.

let the qq commence!

[OneEyed Jack]

For the same reason I can't run dual-AC20s in an Atlas. It was the devs choice to take certain limitations from canon and apply them to MWO build limits as a balancing and diversity factor.

I'd like to point out that the tonnage it gave up for the JJs, if it could, would make it a less capable Gauss pop-tart than they wish it would be, and AC20 pop-tarts would be amusing, but the range limits would take away from the pop-tarting advantage. (i.e: You wouldn't get the full damage until they were rather close, at which time they would be coming around/over your cover and removing the advantage)

Edited by OneEyed Jack, 13 April 2013 - 01:52 PM.