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[Lefty Lucy]

Jazzbandit1313, on 21 April 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

So according to you this is effort's definition
Effort - Throttle up to 130 KPH (or whatever) run around the enemy team without being Noticed. Throttle down. sit there.

that sir is a little bit of a wrong definition. You think it takes effort to back cap a team? HA.

Wow, way to not read the post at all.

[TOGSolid]

Lefty Lucy, on 21 April 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

Wow, way to not read the post at all.

It's kinda saddening how many arguments on these boards are due to people who just stick their fingers in their ears and go "la la la la la la".

[Davers]

Jazzbandit1313, on 21 April 2013 - 02:34 PM, said:

No i expect you to run around my ankles and at least try to fight

I think this is a lot of people's problem right here. Not everyone is playing to 'Win'. A lot are playing to 'Shoot Mechs'. With no CW, this is a bit understandable. But when CW hits it will leave a lot of people with bad habits, like not paying attention to caps. Worlds are lost that way.

[pjnt]

Oh please. The name of the game is to cap or kill. Which part is not being understood? Change your tactics.

[Greydek]

One word, tactics. That was the total point of the large maps. Not meet at epsilon and slug it out like there is no other part to the map. I run heavies and assaults....and I plan for the lights doing the end run.

[MuonNeutrino]

As long as I keep seeing games like this, I'm going to keep capping:



Seriously, playing against this sort of **** isn't any more fun for the rest of us than capping is for you.

It may be true that no individual person is responsible for their team consisting of 8 assault mechs, but at some point, as a community we have to sit back and ask ourselves 'should I really be contributing to this sort of insanity?' I own a PPC stalker, and had been playing it for over a month now. It's one of my favorite mechs, and I do quite well in it. I haven't played it, or any of my other assault mechs, since the highlander came out.

I doubt it'll make any difference, but if I can convince just a *few* people to put the assault mechs back into the garage and run something that moves faster than a geriatric snail, I'll take it, because this meta had got to be the least fun one I've seen since I started playing. And well, when it comes to metas like this you can run with them, or you can try to change them. I'm going for the second, one cap at a time.

[Rebas Kradd]

Jazzbandit1313, on 21 April 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

So according to you this is effort's definition
Effort - Throttle up to 130 KPH (or whatever) run around the enemy team without being Noticed. Throttle down. sit there.

that sir is a little bit of a wrong definition. You think it takes effort to back cap a team? HA.

Not all the time. I just do it when I see a blatant cheese team, like all Highlanders or all DDC's. My hope is that if enough of us do this, it'll discourage the cheese a bit. The rest of the time, I've no problem getting into a fair, straight-up brawl.

[the huanglong]

People running poptart highlanders, ECM atlases and 6 PPC stalkers are doing everything they can to turn it into assaultmech assault 4 online and deserve to be capped without ever popping their ridiculous alphas.

If you don't like being capped buy a centurion or a dragon.

[Treckin]

Yes everyone should learn how to pilot lights all over the map to avoid crummy game mechanics the developers created. Certainly dont think in BETA its OK to suggest they change it.

Capture Warrior 2013

[TOGSolid]

MuonNeutrino, on 21 April 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

As long as I keep seeing games like this, I'm going to keep capping:



Seriously, playing against this sort of **** isn't any more fun for the rest of us than capping is for you.

It may be true that no individual person is responsible for their team consisting of 8 assault mechs, but at some point, as a community we have to sit back and ask ourselves 'should I really be contributing to this sort of insanity?' I own a PPC stalker, and had been playing it for over a month now. It's one of my favorite mechs, and I do quite well in it. I haven't played it, or any of my other assault mechs, since the highlander came out.

I doubt it'll make any difference, but if I can convince just a *few* people to put the assault mechs back into the garage and run something that moves faster than a geriatric snail, I'll take it, because this meta had got to be the least fun one I've seen since I started playing. And well, when it comes to metas like this you can run with them, or you can try to change them. I'm going for the second, one cap at a time.

I don't own any Assault mechs except for my Founder's Atlas and I've never used that thing. I like to imagine I have the moral high ground in every match.

the huanglong, on 21 April 2013 - 03:17 PM, said:

People running poptart highlanders, ECM atlases and 6 PPC stalkers are doing everything they can to turn it into assaultmech assault 4 online and deserve to be capped without ever popping their ridiculous alphas.

If you don't like being capped buy a centurion or a dragon.

No love for the Hunchback 4P?

Edited by TOGSolid, 21 April 2013 - 03:19 PM.

[Jazzbandit1313]

I'd like to state that i dont even own an assault mech and my two heavies dont even come close to Boating weapons. theyre evenly spread. so no I'm not some pissed off poptart. I'm a well balanced medium and heavy player who wants to see a change in the first five minute cap rate.

[Alois Hammer]

Jizzbandit1313, on 21 April 2013 - 11:00 AM, said:

My points,

- This is a terrible way to win, cheating everyone out of c-bills, XP, and a long, fun game.
- Also, some teams don't have any lights and therefore can't possibly get back to base in time to stop the cap.
- Let's be honest its just trolling.

Questions, Comments, concerns?

Sucks to be you, Sheldon. You could always leave.

Jizzbandit1313, on 21 April 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

I'm not talking about honor and all of that, I'm talking about being a ******* troll ******* who can't give a half of a **** about anyone else in the server. Pretty much as bad as a hacker.

Sounds like a fair description of your position regarding the issue- being a troll who can't see past "waaaaah, you're supposed to do it my way!"

Edited by Alois Hammer, 21 April 2013 - 03:27 PM.

[Bagheera]

Jazzbandit1313, on 21 April 2013 - 11:00 AM, said:

Questions, Comments, concerns?

If I wanted to play Pop-Tart-Assault-Warrior I would have played Mechwarrior 4.

I want this game to have a whole host of valid tactics, so when I see an all-assault deck on the other side I'm going to cap them. Period. Adapt or lose the match. Winning is the only objective. C-bills and XP are just icing.

[Bishop Steiner]

Wintersdark, on 21 April 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

Indeed, it's not much fun to have matches end after 2 minutes to a cap rush.

But I still maintain, it's better than sitting around for 15 minutes while a couple asshats troll both teams by hiding and dragging matches out.

I can honestly say I don't think I have experienced that. I have had some long drawn out slugfests. There's been a time or two where the last bad guy tried to hide. If I don't have fast units to search for him, then I will go cap. But that is a last resort. And hey, if they are down to 1-2 scouts, and we have overwhelming force, then I don't blame the other guy for trying to cap, either.

BUT

IMO, the only time one should "cap from the start" is to divide the enemy force. If someone just plans to cap from the start, at that point, I have to admit I have to agree with the whole "It's a MechWARRIOR" crowd. Seriously, how is cap rushing any more enjoyable than the idjits who want to poptart all day long?

[pjnt]

Bagheera, on 21 April 2013 - 03:26 PM, said:

If I wanted to play Pop-Tart-Assault-Warrior I would have played Mechwarrior 4.

I want this game to have a whole host of valid tactics, so when I see an all-assault deck on the other side I'm going to cap them. Period. Adapt or lose the match. Winning is the only objective. C-bills and XP are just icing.

I'd throw having fun as another objective But I agree. PGI set the rules and the field in which we play. Use whatever means they have set for us to achieve the win.

[Treckin]

Neverfar, on 21 April 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:

Think before you post.

I can say the exact same thing about your side of things: "Yes everyone should learn how to pilot long range alpha strike assaults to avoid crummy game mechanics the developers created. Alpha Boat Warrior 2013".

Only thing I see you point out is another example of crummy game design (boating). Which I believe goes to my original point, though is a bit off topic (think before you post??).

[Wintersdark]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 April 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

I can honestly say I don't think I have experienced that. I have had some long drawn out slugfests. There's been a time or two where the last bad guy tried to hide. If I don't have fast units to search for him, then I will go cap. But that is a last resort. And hey, if they are down to 1-2 scouts, and we have overwhelming force, then I don't blame the other guy for trying to cap, either.

BUT

IMO, the only time one should "cap from the start" is to divide the enemy force. If someone just plans to cap from the start, at that point, I have to admit I have to agree with the whole "It's a MechWARRIOR" crowd. Seriously, how is cap rushing any more enjoyable than the idjits who want to poptart all day long?

Oh, I was answering other posts with regards to the OP and another poster wanting a Team Deathmatch mode, and trying to explain the problems with (and why there isn't) Team Deathmatch.

Basically, that the worst case scenario of an early cap while sucky is better than the worst case of a unending boring match in team deathmatch.

Early non-combat caps aren't bundles of fun, but they're a lot better than several alternatives and, when all is said and done, if the match ends due to an early cap it's *both* teams fault.

[Jazzbandit1313]

Alois Hammer, on 21 April 2013 - 03:24 PM, said:

Sucks to be you, Sheldon. You could always leave.

Sounds like a fair description of your position regarding the issue- being a troll who can't see past "waaaaah, you're supposed to do it my way!"

Well no sir thats wrong because then youd be the same person for saying "WAAAH" the whole other team is poptarts waaah"

[Cest7]

Assault scoring needs to get changed from deathmatch and deathmatch mode needs to be added.

[Alois Hammer]

Jizzbandit1313, on 21 April 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

Well no sir thats wrong because then youd be the same person for saying "WAAAH" the whole other team is poptarts waaah"

Quote me saying anything of the sort. Screenshots or it never happened. Put up or shut up.

Amusing though, basically you're saying I'd start making threads like this one started by...whom? Yeah, right.