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Anyone Else Noticed A Significant Drop In Poptarts This Weekend?


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#1 jay35

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 01:10 PM

I have. There have been very few of them each round the last couple days. The FOTM is already dying off. See, didn't need a nerf. FOTM rarely does. Just give it a little time. People lose interest, move on to other builds, and others learn how to counter it and the FOTM loses popularity.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 01:11 PM

**** no. There are twice as many now.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 01:13 PM

View PostJSparrowist, on 20 April 2013 - 01:11 PM, said:

**** no. There are twice as many now.


I lold irl.

#4 ferranis

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 01:14 PM

If you cant beat them, boat them :P

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 01:16 PM

BOAT

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 01:17 PM

I saw numerous LRM boating Highlanders yesterday. I was confused, but I lol'd as I strolled through the missiles and double gaussed them in the face.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 01:21 PM

lol, last match was nothing but Highlanders and Phracts jump sniping away... luckily only two of them were a good shot. I'll stick to my full armor, zombie CT, low heat/high recycle builds tyvm :P

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 01:22 PM

Yea, I hate this poptards on small maps and.. A love poptard-teams on huge maps like Alpine and Tourmaline. Their attempts to prevent basecap is completely laughable =).

#9 Vassago Rain

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 01:27 PM

View Postjay35, on 20 April 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

I have. There have been very few of them each round the last couple days. The FOTM is already dying off. See, didn't need a nerf. FOTM rarely does. Just give it a little time. People lose interest, move on to other builds, and others learn how to counter it and the FOTM loses popularity.


Your elo dropped.

#10 jay35

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 01:29 PM

View PostVassago Rain, on 20 April 2013 - 01:27 PM, said:


Your elo dropped.

That would be odd since I've been winning more than losing.

Well, whatever the case, it's been great. I'm actually enjoying it, seeing a lot of diverse builds again.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 01:36 PM

View Postjay35, on 20 April 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

seeing a lot of diverse builds again.


Lies.

#12 New Breed

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:06 PM

Oh man

I blame 4/20 for OP

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:22 PM

Certainly saw less poptarts late last night Aussie time including Highlanders. What was surprising me was the number of Hunchies about. I was once on a team that had 4 of them and it was common to see 2 of them in other games.

Quite a few Awesomes about which is nice as at one stage they were not seen to much either.

Maybe the tournament is affecting mech type numbers.

Cheers!
Eboli.

#14 Shively

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 03:56 PM

View Postjay35, on 20 April 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

That would be odd since I've been winning more than losing.

Well, whatever the case, it's been great. I'm actually enjoying it, seeing a lot of diverse builds again.


In case you didn't know, ELO was actually implemented this week, and thus saw a blanket reset for everyone, as the ELO-matchmaking system now, allegedly, works exactly as intended (before, matches were much more likely to be imbalanced - now, they should be less so).

The higher your ELO becomes, the more poptarts you're going to see.

I'm really hoping you're simply ignorant here - otherwise, you may just be the only non-founder with goldvision.

Edited by Shively, 20 April 2013 - 03:57 PM.


#15 Vassago Rain

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 04:02 PM

View Postjay35, on 20 April 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

That would be odd since I've been winning more than losing.

Well, whatever the case, it's been great. I'm actually enjoying it, seeing a lot of diverse builds again.


They adjusted it. Your elo dropped.

View PostEboli, on 20 April 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

Certainly saw less poptarts late last night Aussie time including Highlanders. What was surprising me was the number of Hunchies about. I was once on a team that had 4 of them and it was common to see 2 of them in other games.

Quite a few Awesomes about which is nice as at one stage they were not seen to much either.

Maybe the tournament is affecting mech type numbers.

Cheers!
Eboli.


You're slumming on the lowest levels of the ghetto. Ask the current assault champion about the number of poptarts and ridgers.

#16 Ens

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 04:03 PM

nothing to see here......move along

#17 Taemien

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 04:03 PM

View PostShively, on 20 April 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:


In case you didn't know, ELO was actually implemented this week, and thus saw a blanket reset for everyone, as the ELO-matchmaking system now, allegedly, works exactly as intended (before, matches were much more likely to be imbalanced - now, they should be less so).

The higher your ELO becomes, the more poptarts you're going to see.

I'm really hoping you're simply ignorant here - otherwise, you may just be the only non-founder with goldvision.


If that were true, I'd see much less founders and more lone wolves. This isn't the case as you read the patch notes wrong.

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Adjusted player Elo down to their correct values by re-simulating match history (to account for the Elo-inflation bug).


Nowhere does that even imply a ELO reset. Which could mean your ELO is back down where it should be. So if the guy you quoted is not fibbing about his W/L ratio, then yes, poptarters are actually in the lower brackets. Which wouldn't surprise me.

#18 jay35

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 04:11 PM

View PostVassago Rain, on 20 April 2013 - 04:02 PM, said:

Ask the current assault champion about the number of poptarts and ridgers.

No, just poptarts, which is the thing everyone is QQing about. Ridging (running up to a ridge, unloading, and backing down, or running parallel below the ridgeline, shifting over to pop above briefly and unload) is a consistent part of MechWarrior combat and always has been. So has poptarting, for that matter, but no one's QQing about ridging (for now. that'll probably be next when people get tired of QQing about poptarts).

Also, there's really no substance behind claiming only the highest levels of play are poptarting when it's the most discussed tactic at the moment and everyone and their brother has been trying it out for the past couple weeks. It's likely quite evenly spread across all levels of play outside of the cadets.

Edited by jay35, 20 April 2013 - 04:12 PM.


#19 Merky Merc

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 04:12 PM

View PostTaemien, on 20 April 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:


If that were true, I'd see much less founders and more lone wolves. This isn't the case as you read the patch notes wrong.



Is this an implication that founders have higher elos than lone wolves? Because I would have to say I find that comical at best.

I have started to see some poptarts though, I've continued to either cap their bases or face blast them at the apex of their jump.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 04:35 PM

View PostVassago Rain, on 20 April 2013 - 04:02 PM, said:


They adjusted it. Your elo dropped.



You're slumming on the lowest levels of the ghetto. Ask the current assault champion about the number of poptarts and ridgers.


Maybe our timezone players are not so full of it instead?

Why be so insulting Vassago? If you are an example of the attitude of higher tier players than I am glad I am not at that level and get to enjoy my games with a variety of mechs with quite a few other Founders at "my level". Sheesh...

And yes, there are poptarts about and ridging is basically normal playstyle so what are you on about then?





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