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[Dark Fact]

It's pretty awesome for a controller setup, but honestly, I think it was way over-hyped. >_o
It'll only appeal to the ultra-dedicated MW fans, I think, most of whom are older folks with disposable income. This means low volume sales, plus the fancy hardware like the integrated screen... the price tag won't be pretty!

[vettie]

not wanting to start anything and to each their own

but, hype?

what hype? a couple of posts about Artemis coming and a countdown and a puzzle?

Most of the hype came from you and me...

The Devs left us to our own about what artemis was and we conjured many things from missile control systems to the Cyclops mech. Dont blame them for hype. Their job is to sell this game to as many users as possible and if they get a boon from a major player making an exclusive "toy" for their game, then i say they did a great job.

If you like or dislike the controller, that is your opinion and feel free to share it. I actually like the concept but doubtful about purchase.

if you think you were suckered, well, you really were not. They just pushed a button or two to make you wander what was coming. Why should you feel let down? They are trying to increase the fan base and sometimes, hardware is what it takes. I am sure that is just one of many surprises yet to come.

That fact that we, the users, generated so much hype about WHAT was coming, Well again, the Devs did their job making you and I want more. As far as we know, the game is going to be free. Sure there are thing you can BUY and this is one of those things.

This E3 is not over and there may be more actual game content or screenies or vids yet to come. Patience...

[shortpainter]

Just to clear things up, this is not a controller concept. It is a "concept controller". That means the stick was designed to fit into a certain theme to match an intellectual property. Just like World of Warcraft had concept keyboards and such, this is the concept controller for the Mechwarrior franchise. In other words, its a joystick with fluff to further enhance immersion. It was built to look like the inside of a mech is all that "concept" bit means. They should have used the word "theme controller". There is a pic of the real one on display at E3 in the other Artemis thread.

[Stormdragon]

Dark Fact, on 05 June 2012 - 03:27 PM, said:

It's pretty awesome for a controller setup, but honestly, I think it was way over-hyped. >_o
It'll only appeal to the ultra-dedicated MW fans, I think, most of whom are older folks with disposable income. This means low volume sales, plus the fancy hardware like the integrated screen... the price tag won't be pretty!

I have heard the same thing said about other peripherals like that and the next thing you know they are sold out.

[jfun13]

hope there is a way to try it like at a gamestop or somthing before spending what i am sure will be a mass amount of coin for that thing, having said that it dose look very cool.

[Stormdragon]

vettie, on 05 June 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

not wanting to start anything and to each their own

but, hype?

what hype? a couple of posts about Artemis coming and a countdown and a puzzle?

Most of the hype came from you and me...

The Devs left us to our own about what artemis was and we conjured many things from missile control systems to the Cyclops mech. Dont blame them for hype. Their job is to sell this game to as many users as possible and if they get a boon from a major player making an exclusive "toy" for their game, then i say they did a great job.

If you like or dislike the controller, that is your opinion and feel free to share it. I actually like the concept but doubtful about purchase.

if you think you were suckered, well, you really were not. They just pushed a button or two to make you wander what was coming. Why should you feel let down? They are trying to increase the fan base and sometimes, hardware is what it takes. I am sure that is just one of many surprises yet to come.

That fact that we, the users, generated so much hype about WHAT was coming, Well again, the Devs did their job making you and I want more. As far as we know, the game is going to be free. Sure there are thing you can BUY and this is one of those things.

This E3 is not over and there may be more actual game content or screenies or vids yet to come. Patience...

As I said before hype/Gimick is usually the words that are thrown around when a gamer can't afford something. There was actually a really good conversation about this at GDC a couple years back Jerry Clements from NVIDIA was talking about the irrational hate over 3D vision when it was first made available, it baffled the company so they decided to find out what was it about the product that created such a strong negative opinion, come to find out the price point was out of many gamers range and that was the impetus of the hate.

It's the same way with Razer products, they are expensive and many gamers automatically hate what they can't afford.

You see the same hate with Collectors Editions, Third party swag etc. It's pretty petty if you think about it.

Edited by Stormdragon, 05 June 2012 - 05:25 PM.

[Dark Fact]

Stormdragon, on 05 June 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

I have heard the same thing said about other peripherals like that and the next thing you know they are sold out.

Only because they make them in low volume in the first place, as stated.

Stormdragon, on 05 June 2012 - 05:24 PM, said:

As I said before hype/Gimick is usually the words that are thrown around when a gamer can't afford something.

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It's the same way with Razer products, they are expensive and many gamers automatically hate what they can't afford.

You see the same hate with Collectors Editions, Third party swag etc. It's pretty petty if you think about it.

But here you are wrong. D: There's plenty of products that are nothing but hot air and the market reacts accordingly.

Gamers don't hate Razer products because they are expensive. They hate them because some of them have notoriously bad build quality and performance. Like those "gaming" keyboards of theirs, and whatnot.

And I don't know anyone who hates Collector's Editions! If anything, people hate their sometimes limited supply...

Edited by Dark Fact, 05 June 2012 - 06:28 PM.

[Stormdragon]

Dark Fact, on 05 June 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

Only because they make them in low volume in the first place, as stated.


But here you are wrong. D: There's plenty of products that are nothing but hot air and the market reacts accordingly.

Gamers don't hate Razer products because they are expensive. They hate them because some of them have notoriously bad build quality and performance. Like those "gaming" keyboards of theirs, and whatnot.

And I don't know anyone who hates Collector's Editions! If anything, people hate their sometimes limited supply...

So I take it you have never owned one of those keyboards yes?

I have owned three, I gave the other two to my wife and daughter I have spilled soda in them dropped them and they still work perfectly My friends mastiff decided to use his as a chew toy it's still working.

Point of fact, of all the Razer products I have owned I have had one go bad a Razer Boomslang back in 2001, I called and they RMAed me a new one.

A lot of that notoriously bad press is from people who never actually owned them...you know kinda like when haters show up to meta critic to trash games they aren't actually playing?

Anyway if Razer actually made junk they wouldn't do the phenomenal sales they do every year and eighty percent of that is repeat business.

Oh and Inb4 "I owned blah blah Razer product and it's junkzor!!"

Edited by Stormdragon, 05 June 2012 - 06:48 PM.

[Stormdragon]

Jack Dalton, on 05 June 2012 - 07:22 PM, said:

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Wow...that is some serious hate you got going on there.

My advice is to edit this before the mods look at it.

Edited by Mason Grimm, 05 June 2012 - 09:11 PM.

[Kasiagora]

Yeah. I was wondering about where all the 'hype' and let downs were coming from myself. But then I hadn't even heard about the Artemis countdown until yesterday. I'd heard more talk about Artemis IV FCSs and Cyclops than usual, but that was it. I was intrigued to see what the MW:O guys would do for E3, and I'm still waiting to see if new footage, mechs, or maps are released. The convention is still going until the 7th, and although the last day of any convention is usually for packing up, the night before is often times the biggest evening for these kinds of things. Maybe we're less than impressed because we've seen lots of concepts here on the forums that the company is nice enough to share information at all with us, but for the majority of people, this is all brand new to them. We're a very privileged community here. Most games would simply keep us in the dark about everything.

[Atlas Hammerfall]

Sam Donelly, on 05 June 2012 - 07:12 AM, said:

Don't forget it is still a concept, the darned thing doesnt even exist yet!

That said, the thing does look pretty snazzy, but will cost me my firstborn....

My first born left home already!

[Nexus Trimean]

Id love to have one, but i cant see it being less than the $150 i would be willing to spend.

[Mason Grimm]

Play nice kids. I haven't banned anyone in a little while and I'm trying to keep that record going strong!

[Kasiagora]

Mason Grimm, on 05 June 2012 - 09:12 PM, said:

Play nice kids. I haven't banned anyone in a little while and I'm trying to keep that record going strong!

Thought you were gonna say your Ban Finger's itching.
Wait a sec... Why am I feeding the bear?!

[Slicc]

Terbius, on 05 June 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

PC wired to 52" flatscreen, surround sound, sitting in my recliner with artemis in my lap. yes, I can see this.

I hear ya, cause I'll be doing the exact same thing. =)

[Dark Fact]

Stormdragon, on 05 June 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:

So I take it you have never owned one of those keyboards yes?

I have owned three, I gave the other two to my wife and daughter I have spilled soda in them dropped them and they still work perfectly My friends mastiff decided to use his as a chew toy it's still working.

Point of fact, of all the Razer products I have owned I have had one go bad a Razer Boomslang back in 2001, I called and they RMAed me a new one.

A lot of that notoriously bad press is from people who never actually owned them...you know kinda like when haters show up to meta critic to trash games they aren't actually playing?

Anyway if Razer actually made junk they wouldn't do the phenomenal sales they do every year and eighty percent of that is repeat business.

Oh and Inb4 "I owned blah blah Razer product and it's junkzor!!"

Admittedly, I have not. But this is because I do my research before I buy. Don't get me wrong, I take everything I hear from fanboys and/or haters online with a grain of salt, but I tend to put some trust in hardware analysis and review sites.

Just because people buy the product, it doesn't mean the product is all great. It does mean that the marketing deparmtnet is doing a good job, however. Just look American car makers.

I'm glad to hear that you're satisfied with your keyboards, though--I didn't mean to diss your choices. Although it would be nicer if you didn't (directly or indirectly) brush off those who aren't planning on buying the controller as being poor, or something! Some people are just more careful in weighing what they will spend their money on.

[borisof007]

Jack Dalton, on 05 June 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

If the only way to express oneself here [REDACTED DEROGATORY COMMENT] then just man up; save me some time and 60 dollars.

Planetside 2 and Hawken are coming out soon enough anyway. At least they'll have the budget for some real moderation, and not just hand [REDACTED DEROGATORY COMMENT]

Then get out of our forums and troll somewhere else. Your attitude isn't wanted here.

[pursang]

Jack Dalton, on 05 June 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

If the only way to express oneself here [REDACTED DEROGATORY COMMENT] then just man up; save me some time and 60 dollars.

Planetside 2 and Hawken are coming out soon enough anyway. At least they'll have the budget for some real moderation, and not just hand [REDACTED DEROGATORY COMMENT]

[Aethon]

Jack Dalton, on 05 June 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

If the only way to express oneself here [REDACTED DEROGATORY COMMENT] then just man up; save me some time and 60 dollars.

Planetside 2 and Hawken are coming out soon enough anyway. At least they'll have the budget for some real moderation, and not just hand [REDACTED DEROGATORY COMMENT]

EDIT: Ninja'd!

Edited by Helmer, 06 June 2012 - 12:38 AM.

[Cole141]

Jack Dalton, on 05 June 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

If the only way to express oneself here [REDACTED DEROGATORY COMMENT] then just man up; save me some time and 60 dollars.

Planetside 2 and Hawken are coming out soon enough anyway. At least they'll have the budget for some real moderation, and not just hand [REDACTED DEROGATORY COMMENT]

Edited by Cole141, 20 June 2012 - 09:42 PM.