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Are The Mechs With Low-Slung Weapons Seriously Disadvantaged, And If So, What Should Be Done About It?


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#61 Keifomofutu

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 07:34 PM

View PostJust wanna play, on 01 May 2013 - 07:28 PM, said:


and its just another extreme set-up for the various possibilities for this weapon load out, like i said , trial an error my friend, trial and error

in other words, STICK WITH A MOTHA ******* ATLAS

find you have to much ammo? remove it, go faster or run cooler find you have enough cooling? less hs, more armor/speed/ammo its all in the tweaking, if it works don't fix it

you COULD help us try to find a good use for the three ballistics hard points on the mech ya know instead of saying what we do come up with isn't very good

Well you know what the 4G really needs to be a variant with more than a couple builds? Working machine guns. If MGs were actually half decent weapons up close you could make a hell of a 3MG 3MPL brawler mech out of it. Probably get it going full speed on a standard with very reasonable heat. Lack of useful MGs does a lot of harm to mechs 60t and lighter with extra ballistic slots. I would play the hell out of a 4G like that.

Edited by Keifomofutu, 01 May 2013 - 07:34 PM.


#62 Sephlock

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 07:59 PM

View PostDavers, on 01 May 2013 - 06:39 PM, said:


OMG, an XL in a Hunchback? Guess you are only interested in playing the first 3 minutes of the match? ;)

What do you do with that build when it isn't Alpine or TD?


I for one would rather die than live without my beloved Hunch.

Its like that one scene from one of the AvP games, where the scientists comment that the Predator could not be disarmed- any time they tried, it went into cardiac arrest. They said something to the effect of "what kind of species would rather die than be disarmed?"

#63 Just wanna play

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 12:15 PM

View PostKeifomofutu, on 01 May 2013 - 07:34 PM, said:

Well you know what the 4G really needs to be a variant with more than a couple builds? Working machine guns. If MGs were actually half decent weapons up close you could make a hell of a 3MG 3MPL brawler mech out of it. Probably get it going full speed on a standard with very reasonable heat. Lack of useful MGs does a lot of harm to mechs 60t and lighter with extra ballistic slots. I would play the hell out of a 4G like that.

yeah that would def help, but for now, 3 ac/2s is all you can really do (or 2 ac/2s and an mg/1 ac2 2 mgs, idk why you would do that tho)

if there was infantry in this game (at least in single player) 3 mgs would definitely be very helpful

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 12:19 PM

View PostSephlock, on 01 May 2013 - 07:59 PM, said:

I for one would rather die than live without my beloved Hunch.

Its like that one scene from one of the AvP games, where the scientists comment that the Predator could not be disarmed- any time they tried, it went into cardiac arrest. They said something to the effect of "what kind of species would rather die than be disarmed?"

LOL i just remembered how much i hated losing a hunch (i had the 4sp so it isnt as bad as you guys losing THE hunch)

rather be awesome with a hunch then die then be moderate with a hunch then be pathetic after losing it

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 06:56 PM

That's why I like to run with an XL engine in my 4G.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:42 AM

View PostSephlock, on 02 May 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

That's why I like to run with an XL engine in my 4G.

View PostSephlock, on 02 May 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

That's why I like to run with an XL engine in my 4G.

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View PostSephlock, on 02 May 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

That's why I like to run with an XL engine in my 4G.

probably ran a std engine in my sp, i doubt i would have wanted to spend so much money on a mech i was just using to collect the money to buy a heavy anyway, same with my spider (i used up my cadet money on random junk when i first started the game so i have had to work my way up the weight classes with money i earned myself, very fun experience actually adds a sense of achievement to the game)

oops srry bout all the quoting, this web page seems to be a bit laggy and so i click it a few times

#67 Sephlock

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 08:59 AM

^ Just think of it as an XL quote.

#68 General Taskeen

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 09:18 AM

Mechs with arm actuators also have full motion for aiming. In this game, or any Mech game, they never added an ability for a slung arm to lift up (like a human arm) to raise the weapon higher.

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I so want to see this happen.

#69 Sephlock

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 09:25 AM

I know its not the same thing but I still want to be able to assume the Dasher position :(. Posted Image

#70 Just wanna play

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 01:46 PM

lol that thing is asking to get its arms shot off

#71 Sephlock

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 09:28 PM



#72 Taemien

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 09:39 PM

I personally think humanoid mechs mounting actuators should have physical attacks. Free damage at no heat and no tonnage will offset all these disadvantages they currently have. Getting close to an Atlas or Awesome will result in serious pain so they'd be able to mount regular PPCs with little disadvantage. Get close to an atlas and it double punches you for 10dmg a punch, awesome smacks for 8 damage.


View PostJust wanna play, on 06 May 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

lol that thing is asking to get its arms shot off


Good luck hitting it. It runs 216kph.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 03:12 AM

View PostTaemien, on 06 May 2013 - 09:39 PM, said:

I personally think humanoid mechs mounting actuators should have physical attacks. Free damage at no heat and no tonnage will offset all these disadvantages they currently have. Getting close to an Atlas or Awesome will result in serious pain so they'd be able to mount regular PPCs with little disadvantage. Get close to an atlas and it double punches you for 10dmg a punch, awesome smacks for 8 damage.




Good luck hitting it. It runs 216kph.

**** wtf??? is it a light???

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 04:37 AM

I think low slung arm weapons are kinda gimped in a weird way, because, if you have arm and shoulder actuators why can't you lift your damn arm up and fire over that ridge?

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:51 AM

View PostJust wanna play, on 07 May 2013 - 03:12 AM, said:

**** wtf??? is it a light???

It is, but hits like a heavy.

It has a configuration that mounts 5x Er Medium Lasers, the kicker is those lasers do 7 dmg each, not 5, due to them being clan.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 11:23 AM

View PostJust wanna play, on 07 May 2013 - 03:12 AM, said:

**** wtf??? is it a light???

If it had fins on the sides like the Marauder II, it would classify as a LAM ;).

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 11:42 AM

View PostEcho6, on 07 May 2013 - 04:37 AM, said:

I think low slung arm weapons are kinda gimped in a weird way, because, if you have arm and shoulder actuators why can't you lift your damn arm up and fire over that ridge?

THIS

lol is it just me or is that dasher kinda op....... clans seem to have some sweet mechs compared to (um, whos mechs are we using now??)

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 04:30 PM

View PostJust wanna play, on 07 May 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

(um, whos mechs are we using now??)


http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Dictionary#S


Stravag: A Clan epithet favored by members of the Warrior Caste, loosely translated as "freeborn."

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 05:59 PM

wonder if that dasher could be able to run at top speed and ram its funny little arms into an atlases **** (atlas are dudes right?, that move probably wont work on heavy metal) :)

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 06:01 PM

View PostJust wanna play, on 07 May 2013 - 05:59 PM, said:

wonder if that dasher could be able to run at top speed and ram its funny little arms into an atlases **** (atlas are dudes right?, that move probably wont work on heavy metal) :)

Edited by Sephlock, 07 May 2013 - 06:02 PM.






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