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#41 -Muta-

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 06:17 AM

View PostDV McKenna, on 12 May 2013 - 05:37 AM, said:



You'd have to elaborate on the circumstances, but for example i've played River City is great for base to base sniping and it's easy to do.

In a cursory look around the internets dark halls, i actually found a user review of the MWO aimbot...i won't post it incase i anger some community mod who sends me to the depths of hell.....but even they said it's pointless because it's worse than most newbies aim.


River city here is the thing...

it is easy to hit someone from base to base especially when you play on a 46 inch. screen.


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#42 LTGear

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 02:58 AM

I thought MWO isn't hackable online game. How is PGI prepared against hackers? are they not? What are PGI defense mechanisns? Is there any assurance that we go out in combat without worrying for any hackers? Should we worry about it? :(

I thought MWO isn't hackable online game. How is PGI prepared against hackers? are they not? What are PGI defense mechanisns? Is there any assurance that we go out in combat without worrying for any hackers? Should we worry about it? :)

I thought MWO isn't hackable online game. How is PGI prepared against hackers? are they not? What are PGI defense mechanisns? Is there any assurance that we go out in combat without worrying for any hackers? Should we worry about it? ;)

#43 Cr4Zy K0wLa

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 05:07 AM

Yes, we all have seen hacking accusations in game and shady player behavior. I especially detest when the clock hasn't even counted down the first 10 seconds, yet the PUG I've dropped with is suddenly facing 3 assaults in our own base. Never knew PGI released an XL9000 engine for an Atlas .... :/

However, people that regularly moan and groan in matches (usually due to being 8-0 stomped) need to realize that just because you lost, it doesn't justify an automatic hackussation. Simple concentrated fire teamwork and voice comms versus solo efforts are usually the root cause of your loss. Sometimes it is just buggy coding / hotboxes. Or simply, you've been outclassed by better players.

But if you are going to accuse another player(s) of hacking, don't just sit there in game and ***** and whine about it. If you are absolutely sure it has happened, then report it and move on.

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 10:12 AM

View PostFiona Marshe, on 09 May 2013 - 06:44 AM, said:

Raw damage alone certainly doesn't point to hacking, so you're safe there. Most pilots average about 150-200 damage per kill unless they get lucky (or their team strips the armour first).

Games where two Atlai get headshot at 800m+ by snipers in the first two minutes... *thats* aimbot hacking. At that range the head is barely one pixel in size on most screens, so having it happen twice in 30 seconds by the same pilot is very damning evidence (and gets a report sent to Support email).


Well if if you have the skill to set your T.V. up to where it is your computer monitor and are very skilled Atlases become more than a few pixels especially if you have advanced zoom

#45 AaronWolf

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 10:30 AM

You guys know this thread is from May?

#46 Enigmos

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 10:39 AM

View PostBellatorMonk, on 07 May 2013 - 10:09 AM, said:

Raven pilots like you are called Vultures.
I call them pilots. Some pilots aim their weapon before firing. They are clearly OP, but it isn't by hacking. It is by skill. The only times I wonder whether someone is hacking is when they a: appear out of nowhere from a direction they are unlikely to have reached by normal means, or b: when several mechs at once have their client freeze up requiring an alt-tab out and then back in to recover the client. But being a good shot with a good build isn't hacking.

#47 Alik Kerensky

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 11:28 AM

Can't really hack a server based game... unless you've hacked the server. Alot of what someone might think of as cheating is just server delay and lag not showing us properly what we think were actually seeing.

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 01:09 PM

I have never ever in a single match seen someone who looks like they are hacking nor have never seen anyone else accuse someone of hacking.

You dont have to lie to kick it here.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 11:22 PM

View PostAlik Kerensky, on 04 August 2013 - 11:28 AM, said:

Can't really hack a server based game... unless you've hacked the server.


You clearly don't understand the logic behind client-server based systems.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 11:28 PM

View PostFunkadelic Mayhem, on 04 August 2013 - 01:09 PM, said:

I have never ever in a single match seen someone who looks like they are hacking nor have never seen anyone else accuse someone of hacking.

You dont have to lie to kick it here.


I've played almost 2k matches - never made a hack accusation before - and I saw some **** today that was all but undeniable, it was automated how he went from one target to the next. I've been playing for a year and I've never seen anything like it; his targeting was instantaneous, nobody's that good (he wasn't even that good, scored 1xth in the match for damage in an atlas, had no concept of positioning).

#51 k0sh

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 05:00 AM

Does that make me a cheater as well?
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#52 Comguard

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 05:13 AM

Hackers are the new premades.

#53 Ordellus

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:05 PM

There are definitely hacks in this game. I'm not saying every awesome kill report is a hacker, but some pretty impossible ********* happens more often then it should. Insta killing an atlas with a single medium laser shot anyone?

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 02:58 PM

View PostEcouto, on 03 May 2013 - 09:55 AM, said:

Ive seen this happen alot of times already and not just to me. When someone gets a high dmg and alot of kills just by luck or skill, the opposing team just starts spamming "hacker".

Just because someone is good at a game DOES NOT mean they are hacking :I Im tired of being called a hacker when I have a lucky match.
500 DMG and 5 kills in Raven is not a hack. That mech is fricken OP as sheet :I So please. Dont call me a hacker. I would never hack or even know where to go to get hacks.

I agree is most likely not a hack.... more likely an exploit.

#55 LordDante

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 07:20 AM

every time someone calls me a hacker i did everything right !

#56 Dexter Herbivore

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 07:26 AM

Zombie thread keeps on coming back to life, someone should doubletap this thread in the head.

#57 Nick REX Trebla

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:35 AM

View PostRad Hanzo, on 12 May 2013 - 05:22 AM, said:

Oh these kids nowadays ...


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Woot the... O.o *shocked* --- errr... are you thinking to open a school for light pilots perhaps?? :)

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 09:45 AM

View PostLordDante, on 20 September 2013 - 07:20 AM, said:

every time someone calls me a hacker i did everything right !


LordDante is a Legend... RESPECT THE MASTER!

#59 Nick REX Trebla

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 12:28 AM

I think that high-kills/high-damage is actually not to be so suspected: if someone aims well enough to score high damage it would be expected to score even some kills. What is really suspect for me is high-kills/low-damage. I remember a match where a player scored 3 kills and 200-230 damage: clearly either veeeeeeery lucky/taking-advantage-from-others'-hits run (that happens too, I know) or 3 direct aimed headshots (I have proof for 1 of those hits he scored: direct headshot from about 8oo mt to a Raven running around in circles at about 80 km/h). I know that it happens too, I'll leave you the computing of probabilities though...

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 01:35 AM

View PostArmageddonKnight, on 16 May 2013 - 09:28 AM, said:

The User.cfg file has many grpahics options availabe that are not in the game options, u can tweek these urself and its perfectly legit, u can remove the distant blur so u can see things slightly more clearly, or disable other effects to speed up for FPS. These are all graphics options like in any other game, the only difference is, the game Developer hasnt bothered ot make a fancy in game UI to make it simpler for users to alter. So changing user.cfg options is NOT cheating. Any change that works in game, is legit, PGI can and have disabled the ones they dont want ppl messing with, like brightness (so u can see easier on night maps), However u can get around that by using 3rd party programs like SweetFX, which again although technicaly not cheating (becouse it doesnt alter game files) it can be frowned apon.


This used to be true in Closed Beta ....now however, ONLY the user.cfg file is allowed to be modified, and SweetFX requires more modification than that...modifying ONLY the user.cfg doesn't do any adavnced graphic options anymore without XML file modification...which is also not allowed anymore...specifically...

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Q: Can I change my user.cfg file?
A: Yes. This is the only file open to user modification. We understand that at times there can be a need to modify the user.cfg, for example certain joystick configurations are not fully implemented on the in-game options screen and may require manual configuration through this file. As long as you are editing the user.cfg file in good faith, this is not a concern. As always, Support will not be able to troubleshoot or support clients that have modifications to this file. Users can request via Support ticket or forum post that the developers open additional parameters in the user.cfg, and we will determine if the request is reasonable.

Q: May I use graphical enhancements through third-party applications, such as SweetFX or other CBar modifiers to enhance my graphical performance?
A: We do not encourage the use of these types of modifications and in particular should we detect the use of any modification that does any of the following we reserve the right to suspend/ban the account responsible.

a) Alters visibility significantly from the original product to gain unfair tactical advantages
b ) Changes game assets sounds, models, or maps, to gain tactical advantages
c) Attempts to circumvent the map selection process
d) Exploits bugs or existing game mechanics

Q: My mouse/keyboard came with macro software that lets me emulate a series of clicks or helps me with some process. Is this allowed?
A: Yes, using macros as provided by 3rd party hardware vendors is allowed. Though the use of any modifications to assist with aiming, aimbots, wall hacks, or any attempt to give information or tactical assistance that other players would not have by default, is a serious violation of our Terms of Use and any account found to be using such software will likely be suspended or banned.

Q: May I modify the game XML files?
A: No. We have allowed modifications to XML files in the past, specifically for joystick control during the Closed Beta period. As of March 19, 2013 we have added analog joystick support to the client; these XML file modifications should no longer be required. All customization options that are not within the MWO game client options should only be performed in the user.cfg file as discussed above. Again, these modifications are not supported by Support.


So Things like SweetFX....usually used to increase visibility...is most definately cheating.

Edited by Mr 144, 22 September 2013 - 01:40 AM.




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