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[SgtMagor]

reference to Omni tech, but the Clans haven't attacked yet, is the Misery an Omni mech?

[M0rpHeu5]

Since we are guessing

LA:1 energy 1 missile
LT: 1 balistic 2 energy
CT: 1 energy or 1 missile(NARC)
RT: 1 energy 1 missile
RA: 1 energy 1 missile

[El Bandito]

SgtMagor, on 04 May 2013 - 03:45 AM, said:

reference to Omni tech, but the Clans haven't attacked yet, is the Misery an Omni mech?

Considering the fact that it will most likely have no omni slots, It is not an Omni mech.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/OmniMech

Edited by El Bandito, 04 May 2013 - 04:02 AM.

[Wolf Ender]

it looks freaking amazing.

[Cferre]

Leiska, on 03 May 2013 - 06:49 PM, said:

This has the potential to dethrone the 3F as the king of Stalkers. Currently Stalkers are capped mainly by heat, so a ballistic slot could be exactly what the doctor ordered. Of course, the price is still outrageous, so I'm not going to touch it with a pole.

Hmm. And i thought that Hero variants weren't allowed to be any better. p2w

[VikingN1nja]

love it i think i mentioned would like a ballistic stalker in a previous post would like a price below 6500 please. i will buy if it is.

[Bishop Steiner]

Cferre, on 04 May 2013 - 04:54 AM, said:

Hmm. And i thought that Hero variants weren't allowed to be any better. p2w

QQ, cry, whine, rant?

Without the hardpoints published, you have no Idea if it IS any better. Yes, it has a ballistic slot. Oddly the 4 arm mounted lasers all appear to be burned out, as does the CT slot (never seen them with black focal lenses before, screen shots pretty universally show beamers with colored lenses)) We have no clue IF it has missile bays still. The ONLY thing we know for sure is it has a Gauss rifle. ZOMG!!! P2W!!!!

Man it would awesome if people actually had FACTS before they start sniveling.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 04 May 2013 - 05:16 AM.

[Wolf Ender]

this is going to be ...amaaaazing!

Edited by Wolf Ender, 04 May 2013 - 05:21 AM.

[Megalosauroid]

way to give all the Cbill stalkers exactly the same hard points and then give the real money stalker the only ballistic hardpoints. Ive never moaned about pay 2 win before. but ******* pay to win.

[Cferre]

Bishop Steiner, on 04 May 2013 - 05:15 AM, said:

QQ, cry, whine, rant?

Without the hardpoints published, you have no Idea if it IS any better. Yes, it has a ballistic slot. Oddly the 4 arm mounted lasers all appear to be burned out, as does the CT slot (never seen them with black focal lenses before, screen shots pretty universally show beamers with colored lenses)) We have no clue IF it has missile bays still. The ONLY thing we know for sure is it has a Gauss rifle. ZOMG!!! P2W!!!!

Man it would awesome if people actually had FACTS before they start sniveling.

Reading is difficult. Isn't it.

Leiska, on 03 May 2013 - 06:49 PM, said:

This has the potential to dethrone the 3F as the king of Stalkers. Currently Stalkers are capped mainly by heat, so a ballistic slot could be exactly what the doctor ordered. Of course, the price is still outrageous, so I'm not going to touch it with a pole.

If that would end up being the case. Obviously.

Edited by Cferre, 04 May 2013 - 05:37 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Megalosauroid, on 04 May 2013 - 05:28 AM, said:

way to give all the Cbill stalkers exactly the same hard points and then give the real money stalker the only ballistic hardpoints. Ive never moaned about pay 2 win before. but ******* pay to win.

see above post.

If MISERY has a ballistic (confirmed), but is inferior in energy and missile hard points (no way to judge how many of either), it's not P2W. We have no clue what other hard points it has. Learn what P2W actually IS before you start crying. (Hint: Unique ain't P2W, BETTER is P2W. A single ballistic, in and of itself is no better or worse than a single hard point of any other type)

Cferre, on 04 May 2013 - 05:32 AM, said:

Reading is difficult. Isn't it.

Apparently for you. If it has a Ballistic for lower heat, but sh*tty other Hard Points (which are totally unconfirmed) it's not superior. Common Sense is not common, is it?

would you like a hanky to continue QQing about hypothetical imaginary strawmen P2W mechs?

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 04 May 2013 - 05:35 AM.

[El Bandito]

Bishop Steiner, on 04 May 2013 - 05:15 AM, said:

QQ, cry, whine, rant? Without the hardpoints published, you have no Idea if it IS any better. Yes, it has a ballistic slot. Oddly the 4 arm mounted lasers all appear to be burned out, as does the CT slot (never seen them with black focal lenses before, screen shots pretty universally show beamers with colored lenses)) We have no clue IF it has missile bays still. The ONLY thing we know for sure is it has a Gauss rifle. ZOMG!!! P2W!!!! Man it would awesome if people actually had FACTS before they start sniveling.

It has missile slot on the RT. You can clearly see 6 missile ports. It can probably have up to 10 missile ports, just like the Highlander. The Laser ports appear burned out because the laser hole got burned by the laser discharge. Such black burns are depicted in pretty much every mech with laser picture.

Edited by El Bandito, 04 May 2013 - 05:38 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

El Bandito, on 04 May 2013 - 05:35 AM, said:

It has missile slot on the RT. You can clearly see 6 missile ports.

Cool story. So it has ONE Ballistic, and ONE Missile. And the rest we have no clue. Potentially 5 Energy? I await the first 4 ERPPC, 1 Gauss BoogieMech with it's tiny 150 XL engine to try to have weight enough to mount those, ammo and heatsinks.

5 Energy, 1 Missile and a Ballistic..... not exactly game breaking.

Who knows.... maybe it has JJs and ECM TOO?!?!?!?! (not directed at you El Bandito, but to the hand wringers) Every single Hero Mech (OK< except the Death's Knell, lol) has been called P2W and hand wrung and cried about (have people already forgot how horrible and unfair and game breaking and P2W Heavy Metal was.. especially for being 2 weeks BEFORE regular Highlanders?!?!?!)

And yet none have been, people get used to their quirks, and move on.

A Hero Mech without a unique hard point configuration is pointless. And you pretty much already have every Missile/Energy combo one could ask for in the Stalker. And a Ballistic stalker has been one of the most requested mechs by players. So pretty much, gonna stick with: People need to QQ when there is something to QQ about, and quite whining before there is.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 04 May 2013 - 05:42 AM.

[Megalosauroid]

Bishop Steiner, on 04 May 2013 - 05:34 AM, said:

see above post.

If MISERY has a ballistic (confirmed), but is inferior in energy and missile hard points (no way to judge how many of either), it's not P2W. We have no clue what other hard points it has. Learn what P2W actually IS before you start crying. (Hint: Unique ain't P2W, BETTER is P2W. A single ballistic, in and of itself is no better or worse than a single hard point of any other type)

Actually a single ballistic means you can mount a gauss or an ac20 which are the 2 most powerful weapons i the game. So yeah a single ballistic is better than a single energy or missile, But multiple ballistics arent. also gauss + pcc is the best combination of weapons possible, so unless it only has like 1 energy hardpoint it will be objectively better than the other stalkers.

[Cferre]

Bishop Steiner, on 04 May 2013 - 05:34 AM, said:

but sh*tty other Hard Points (which are totally unconfirmed)

How do you know if the other hardpoints are that ''sh*tty'' when they are not even confirmed?

You assume too much yourself.

Edited by Cferre, 04 May 2013 - 05:48 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

El Bandito, on 04 May 2013 - 05:35 AM, said:

It has missile slot on the RT. You can clearly see 6 missile ports. It can probably have up to 10 missile ports, just like the Highlander. The Laser ports appear burned out because the laser hole got burned by the laser discharge. Such black burns are depicted in pretty much every mech with laser picture.

like this one:

this

(dull but still red)


even the spider you can make out the red laser in the belly.

[El Bandito]

Bishop Steiner, on 04 May 2013 - 05:38 AM, said:

Cool story. So it has ONE Ballistic, and ONE Missile. And the rest we have no clue. Potentially 5 Energy? I await the first 4 ERPPC, 1 Gauss BoogieMech with it's tiny 150 XL engine to try to have weight enough to mount those, ammo and heatsinks. 5 Energy, 1 Missile and a Ballistic..... not exactly game breaking. Who knows.... maybe it has JJs and ECM TOO?!?!?!?! (not directed at you El Bandito, but to the hand wringers)

Not 150. Closer to 250XL.

mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=47&l=06c4c3083e1c287b53230c2212803e5b3d730e52

See? I left out the 15 tons for Gauss and 3 tons of Gauss ammo. There is enough space as well.

[Bishop Steiner]

Cferre, on 04 May 2013 - 05:43 AM, said:

How do you know if the other hardpoints are ''sh*tty'' when they are not even confirmed?

You assume too much yourself.

cuz I'm not the one sniveling about P2W.

El Bandito, on 04 May 2013 - 05:45 AM, said:

Not 150. Closer to 250XL.

mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=47&l=06c4c3083e1c287b53230c2212803e5b3d730e52

See? I left out the 15 tons for Gauss and 3 tons of Gauss ammo. There is enough space as well.

you don't remotely comprehend Hyperbole, do you?

Lolz. I leave you to your hand-wringing then. I do love watching people get lathered up about this stuff.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 04 May 2013 - 05:47 AM.

[Megalosauroid]

Bishop Steiner, on 04 May 2013 - 05:46 AM, said:

cuz I'm not the one sniveling about P2W.

yeah 'cause you're probably planning on spending $25 for a slight advantage at a videogame. I wouldn't care about it being pay to have ballistics if the asking price wasnt ridiculous.

[El Bandito]

Bishop Steiner, on 04 May 2013 - 05:45 AM, said:

like this one: even the spider you can make out the red laser in the belly.

Jumping Jesus, what's with you contesting every single thing people say? Do you get off of it? Does it feel good whenever you score points on some trivial stuff or having the last word? This is just some thing I noticed on most threads you participate in.

I was referring to the popular depiction of how every laser port in battlemech (from novel cover to fan art) have burn marks.

Edited by El Bandito, 04 May 2013 - 05:56 AM.