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[Brawler1986]

I run the following AWS-9M. A real brawler. Use LL if you cant manage the heat.

- XL 380 Engine
- 2x ER LL (RA, RT)
- 2x ML (Head, LT)
- 2x SRM4 (CT)
- 1x SRM6 (LA)
- 5x SRM Ammo

Rest DHS

Speed: 76.6 without speed tweak (84.6 with ST)
H/E: 1.21
Alpha Damage: 49

If you run a XL, speed is the thing which saves you from engine death.
The ER LL's are a good compensation for the short range. And because there are many large maps its really paying off.

I have 500+ Damage and sometimes hit 1000. Its a steady and challenging build which requires all your aim skills (especially for those SRM's).

[Mazzyplz]

Brawler1986, on 21 May 2013 - 12:56 AM, said:

I run the following AWS-9M. A real brawler. Use LL if you cant manage the heat.

- XL 380 Engine
- 2x ER LL (RA, RT)
- 2x ML (Head, LT)
- 2x SRM4 (CT)
- 1x SRM6 (LA)
- 5x SRM Ammo

Rest DHS

Speed: 76.6 without speed tweak (84.6 with ST)
H/E: 1.21
Alpha Damage: 49

If you run a XL, speed is the thing which saves you from engine death.
The ER LL's are a good compensation for the short range. And because there are many large maps its really paying off.

I have 500+ Damage and sometimes hit 1000. Its a steady and challenging build which requires all your aim skills (especially for those SRM's).

sounds good, i would try it if i liked lasers

[sarkun]

Brawler1986, on 21 May 2013 - 12:56 AM, said:

I run the following AWS-9M. A real brawler. Use LL if you cant manage the heat.

- XL 380 Engine
- 2x ER LL (RA, RT)
- 2x ML (Head, LT)
- 2x SRM4 (CT)
- 1x SRM6 (LA)
- 5x SRM Ammo

That seems like a lot of SRM ammo / tube - do you really need that much?

[Aethos]

AWS-9M-DEATHSTAR aka "Commence Primary Ignition" aka "That thing's operational"

Flanker/Striker

Pros:

XL380 - faster than you. Run, I dare you. Lights think I'm slow and vulnerable, gets legged in one alpha.
ZOMBIE LOADOUT - 3 LPL 1 MPL all in torso's. LOL @ you wasted all your shots taking my arms off.
22 DHS = most heatsinks i've ever successfully ran in an AWS.
52% HE = very very hard to overheat, even though I alpha every time.
PULSES = I swear by pulses. The duration just works for me considering im often running full speed perpendicular to target. Allows shortest CT exposure between shots. If range is your beef with pulses, then you play your AWS different than I do.
36 ALPHA - Now this may not scare some of you. But being all torso mounted, all lasers, the convergence on these weapons is phenomenal. Since I'm rarely spreading the damage, I saw off components in 2 alphas which takes me a whole 4.75sec in duration. I disarm splatcats like butter. Feasts on lights.
NO AMMO - I run srms on my PB and LRMs on my 8R, and i'm particularly fond of the 9M's effectiveness without missiles.

Cons:
Range. Don't ever engage until its a real brawl.
Fighting on slopes of hills. avoid it at all costs.


Just had best game to date in this build. 972 dmg, 6 assists. I smell that 1K game coming soon with this build.

Edited by Aethos, 21 May 2013 - 02:52 AM.

[Brawler1986]

Mazzyplz, on 21 May 2013 - 01:23 AM, said:

sounds good, i would try it if i liked lasers

The good part is, you can change the 2x SRM4's for lasers if you like. But lasers generate lots of heat when you go alpha, so therefore i chose SRM's instead.

sarkun, on 21 May 2013 - 02:06 AM, said:

That seems like a lot of SRM ammo / tube - do you really need that much?

500 Ammo is allot but i can't change it for another DHS cause there is no space left.
I mostly aim for 25-30 ammo per missile (so 25*4 = 100 ammo for a SRM4).
In this case you got 14 missiles, so you got 500 / 14 = 35,71 ammo per missile.

So you got 1 ton and 1 crit slot to spend to something else if you like.

Aethos, on 21 May 2013 - 02:26 AM, said:

AWS-9M-DEATHSTAR aka "Commence Primary Ignition" aka "That thing's operational"

Flanker/Striker

Pros:

XL380 - faster than you. Run, I dare you. Lights think I'm slow and vulnerable, gets legged in one alpha.
ZOMBIE LOADOUT - 3 LPL 1 MPL all in torso's. LOL @ you wasted all your shots taking my arms off.
22 DHS = most heatsinks i've ever successfully ran in an AWS.
52% HE = very very hard to overheat, even though I alpha every time.
PULSES = I swear by pulses. The duration just works for me considering im often running full speed perpendicular to target. Allows shortest CT exposure between shots. If range is your beef with pulses, then you play your AWS different than I do.
36 ALPHA - Now this may not scare some of you. But being all torso mounted, all lasers, the convergence on these weapons is phenomenal. Since I'm rarely spreading the damage, I saw off components in 2 alphas which takes me a whole 4.75sec in duration. I disarm splatcats like butter. Feasts on lights.
NO AMMO - I run srms on my PB and LRMs on my 8R, and i'm particularly fond of the 9M's effectiveness without missiles.

Cons:
Range. Don't ever engage until its a real brawl.
Fighting on slopes of hills. avoid it at all costs.


Just had best game to date in this build. 972 dmg, 6 assists. I smell that 1K game coming soon with this build.

Funny build. Perhaps add more armor to the front side of the CT LT and RT to increase brawling survivability.


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Heads-up, i reworked my current build and saw that there was room for an AMS . Excellent for reducing damage from LRM's, SSRM's and SRM's, thus increasing survivability .

New build:

- XL 380 Engine
- 2x ER LL (RA, RT)
- 2x ML (Head, LT)
- 2x SRM4 (CT)
- 1x SRM6 (LA)
- 4x SRM ammo (Legs), (1 ton less then previous build).
- 1x AMS (RT)
- 1x AMS ammo (LT)

19 DHS + EndoSteel

Drop some armor in legs to save .5 ton.

Edited by Brawler1986, 21 May 2013 - 07:44 AM.

[ivr56]

ZeProme, on 20 May 2013 - 06:49 PM, said:

So why don't you like the Highlander 733C when people say its the best variant?

Probably more me wanting to go as fast as possible if the situation allows it.
I can't stand slow mechs I prefer to continually move.

[Tremendous Upside]

I've tried more builds on the 9M than on any other mech I own. I've probably even flipped the builds around more than on all my other mechs combined - cause I just can't seem to find that one "perfect" fit... but I do like the build I have on my 9M currently. It seems to have just enough of that combination of long-mid range damage and finishing power.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a1cebccfd92b22d

Only 2 weapon groups needed. The 3xLLs strip the component sections off starting at max range. The ML/SRM4 hit the stripped areas to finish targets off at under 270m. As systematic as it gets - and the heat works out better than it would appear to in the mechlab. While SRMs in general took a nasty hit with the last patch, the SRM4's seem to fire pretty tightly with the 2x2 launchers on this particular mech. No idea why that is (it's certainly NOT the case on a lot of my others) - but so long as it works...

[ivr56]

Small update
46 matches in now. Used in a few stream drops with NGNG with and against as well as a bunch more solo conquest.

27 Wins, 19 losses
50 Kills 29 Assists
Still being consistent with it
Now to just save up money for the engine upgrade

[SniperCzar]

Aethos, on 21 May 2013 - 02:26 AM, said:

AWS-9M-DEATHSTAR aka "Commence Primary Ignition" aka "That thing's operational"

Flanker/Striker

Pros:

XL380 - faster than you. Run, I dare you. Lights think I'm slow and vulnerable, gets legged in one alpha.
ZOMBIE LOADOUT - 3 LPL 1 MPL all in torso's. LOL @ you wasted all your shots taking my arms off.
22 DHS = most heatsinks i've ever successfully ran in an AWS.
52% HE = very very hard to overheat, even though I alpha every time.
PULSES = I swear by pulses. The duration just works for me considering im often running full speed perpendicular to target. Allows shortest CT exposure between shots. If range is your beef with pulses, then you play your AWS different than I do.
36 ALPHA - Now this may not scare some of you. But being all torso mounted, all lasers, the convergence on these weapons is phenomenal. Since I'm rarely spreading the damage, I saw off components in 2 alphas which takes me a whole 4.75sec in duration. I disarm splatcats like butter. Feasts on lights.
NO AMMO - I run srms on my PB and LRMs on my 8R, and i'm particularly fond of the 9M's effectiveness without missiles.

Cons:
Range. Don't ever engage until its a real brawl.
Fighting on slopes of hills. avoid it at all costs.


Just had best game to date in this build. 972 dmg, 6 assists. I smell that 1K game coming soon with this build.

I prefer a 3LL 3ML build. It trims leg armor but has one more DHS and only slightly worse heat efficiency. Haven't had as much luck being a sneaky ninja lately with the new seismic sensors. Once elited it became the only mech over 40 tons I can consistently spread damage on so I don't have a single point of armor left after a match is over due to the raw speed and insanely fast torso twist.

[Autobot9000]

Kind of funny, I came up with a similar build, that rocks a lot for me.

300std engine
endo steel
almost max armor (few points less on legs)
17 DHS
2 ER LL
2 LPL
2 SRM-4


chained are
1 = 2x ER LL
2 = 2x LPL
3 = 2x SRM-4

The idea is to fire the ER lasers on long distance and the pulse lasers+SRMs on short distance. This way overheating is less of a problem. Works like a charm for me.

How do you get engines larger than 300? 300 is the largest engine offered to me (using my AWS-8T)

Edited by Autobot9000, 30 May 2013 - 01:07 PM.

[Aethos]

SniperCzar, on 29 May 2013 - 08:15 PM, said:

I prefer a 3LL 3ML build. It trims leg armor but has one more DHS and only slightly worse heat efficiency. Haven't had as much luck being a sneaky ninja lately with the new seismic sensors. Once elited it became the only mech over 40 tons I can consistently spread damage on so I don't have a single point of armor left after a match is over due to the raw speed and insanely fast torso twist.

I like the build except for that hella-stripped armor. That is dangerously low on the legs and especially the left arm. But if you can manage it, then by all means.

Autobot9000, on 30 May 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

How do you get engines larger than 300? 300 is the largest engine offered to me (using my AWS-8T)

The 9M and Pretty Baby are the only 2 AWS variants that can carry larger than a 300 spec engine. The 9M can fit as high as 385, and the Pretty Baby can fit a 400.

It sucks because honestly I think the 8R,8T,8Q variants could be much more competitive if you could fit say an xl340 in them.

[Ordate]

I currently am running:

380XL
2 lpl (side torsos)
1 erppc (arm)
2 mpl (head, chest)
Max armor

When I first started playing the 3M I had wondered if I made a horrible mistake. Changed up the default to what you see now and changed my style, and I am having a blast. I might have to try the 3 ml instead of the 2 mpl and see how that works, but I really like the hit and turn ability the pulses bring.

I do not get why people take armor out of that off arm. That sucker has taken so much damage after Ive just been ambushed and I'm running away at full speed that it isn't funny. Not to mention sucking down ac40 blasts to make a kill on those boats.

As for the erppc keeping that was a twofold reason. Sure it makes the heat a little less manageable, but one, it gives you a gap closer. Something to sprinkle and enemy with at range while you dodge in and out of cover. Second, there is a psychological aspect of getting hit with a erppc that the lasers dont bring. And sometimes I want that though admittedly there are times when I have snuck up on the back of an opponent and I dont use it at first to see if they wont respond. Some reason the ppc always gets someones attention, the pulses, not 100%.

[Autobot9000]

Oddyl enough that psychological effect is exactly why I love my configuration too (see above). The array of large lasers often provoke enmies to charge into me, only to find out, that they get torn apart by SRM4-2 and large pulse lasers. You can certainly also play the psychological underdog role to your own advantage.

[ssm]

When I bought mine 9M I run it with stock 320XL engine, 3PPCs/3mls/1xSSRM and done very well - got to around 1,5 W/L and 1,9 K/D.

And then, at the same time I got all elite skills unlocked and saved up for 380Xl - and it turned this pretty average mech into true beast.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...2649c364e2bf4a9

With 20DHS on colder maps I can fire 3PPC almost consantly, engine that big makes it easy to torso twist from almost anything short of poptart-surprise PPC/Gauss Alpha, and the whole thing drives like fast heavy.

I love it.


Always remember to have arms locked to torso.

[Just wanna play]

the guy pointng out how hes gonna die quickly has a point, once he gets off of eis new player score and goes to regular elo, hes going to end up with people that will look at the build, guess it has an xl engine and core it through the side torso faster then you can say "awesome"

the biggest problem of the awesome is that they have a hard time proving theyre worth the tonnage over a heavy, the missile variants arent much better then catapults and a lot of the mechs posted here arent much of an upgrade over what can be done on a phract, maybe faster and with a bit more armor but thats about it

ssm, on 31 May 2013 - 02:46 AM, said:

When I bought mine 9M I run it with stock 320XL engine, 3PPCs/3mls/1xSSRM and done very well - got to around 1,5 W/L and 1,9 K/D.

And then, at the same time I got all elite skills unlocked and saved up for 380Xl - and it turned this pretty average mech into true beast.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...2649c364e2bf4a9

With 20DHS on colder maps I can fire 3PPC almost consantly, engine that big makes it easy to torso twist from almost anything short of poptart-surprise PPC/Gauss Alpha, and the whole thing drives like fast heavy.

I love it.


Always remember to have arms locked to torso.

like this one, its only a bit faster then what can be doine on a 1x and also has 1 more dhs (maybe) but is worse because it has all of the ppcs on the arms
and why the hell would you lock your arms to your torso???

Edited by Just wanna play, 31 May 2013 - 03:14 AM.

[ssm]

Just wanna play, on 31 May 2013 - 03:11 AM, said:

the guy pointng out how hes gonna die quickly has a point, once he gets off of eis new player score and goes to regular elo, hes going to end up with people that will look at the build, guess it has an xl engine and core it through the side torso faster then you can say "awesome"

the biggest problem of the awesome is that they have a hard time proving theyre worth the tonnage over a heavy, the missile variants arent much better then catapults and a lot of the mechs posted here arent much of an upgrade over what can be done on a phract, maybe faster and with a bit more armor but thats about it

like this one, its only a bit faster then what can be doine on a 1x and also has 1 more dhs (maybe) but is worse because it has all of the ppcs on the arms

I own Phract 1X, it's a great mech, but Awesome 9M just goes better with PPCs - it's faster, it's cooler, it's better armored, PPCs are nicely lined up (and hang higher than Phract's arms).

I agree that most variants- except 9M and 8R (hands down the best assault missile boat) are nearly useless.

Just wanna play, on 31 May 2013 - 03:11 AM, said:

and why the hell would you lock your arms to your torso???

Why not? All weapons except PPC in the arm are on the CT/STs. It's easier to line up good shot, and with engine that big you don't even feel that slight loss of agility that comes with arm-lock.

Edited by ssm, 31 May 2013 - 03:54 AM.

[Kiiyor]

apostateCourier, on 20 May 2013 - 09:56 AM, said:

>Awesome
>XL engine

I hope you like dying.

XL's don't mean diddly in an awesome. Your CT goes before anything else. Your CT will be gone before your arms. Your CT goes before the game loads.

WELCOME TO THE CLUB OP! The prestigious, ponderous, overweight, over-shot-at yet totally Awesome club.

[Liquid Leopard]

Autobot9000, on 30 May 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

How do you get engines larger than 300? 300 is the largest engine offered to me (using my AWS-8T)

You're limited by the rule that assault mechs can use an engine up to 1.2x larger than they came with.
This link shows the rules for engine limits: http://mwo.gamepedia.com/Engine

This link has tables for the minimum and maximum engines for various mechs: http://mwo.gamepedia.../Awesome_AWS-8T

Scroll down to where it says "Chassis Attributes Table"
Find where it says "Assault BattleMechs", go to the right and click "show".
You can see that all Awesomes have the same range of motion for arms and torso twist, but because they start with bigger engines the 9M and the Pretty Baby can use much bigger engines than the rest.

In fact, the 9M starts with a bigger engine than my 8T can ever use. I look forward to trying the 9M as my 3rd AWS variant... 4 million C-Bills in the future.

P.S.: Autobot, I think I saw you in a game at Canyon Network this morning. Because my frame rate stinks, and I can't make my 8T go any faster (until I have Speed Tweak), that's one of the reasons I'm using it as a "f***ing missile boat".

Edited by Liquid Leopard, 31 May 2013 - 04:13 AM.

[Autobot9000]

To be fair, when comparing an Awesome with a Cataphract: The awesome weighs just 10 tons more and I do believe I win nearly every 1-1 with a Cataphract, although receiving significant damage in return. An Awesome simply isnt that much heavier than a heavy, so I wonder why one would expect it to perform like an Atlas. IMHO the one reason why it's hard to ramp up the DPS on an Awesome is, that you can't mount ballistic weapons like AC/10 or Gauss, that you need for a constant shootout to keep your heat manageable. Thats why I believe pulse lasers or PPCs or if you will some sort of rockets are needed, because the Awesome just cant chain 5x in a row without a shutdown with all these energy weapons.

[ivr56]

Just wanna play, on 31 May 2013 - 03:11 AM, said:

the guy pointng out how hes gonna die quickly has a point, once he gets off of eis new player score and goes to regular elo, hes going to end up with people that will look at the build, guess it has an xl engine and core it through the side torso faster then you can say "awesome"

I've been playing regular ELO mostly now with other people as group lead. Has been fine with it. Still doing the same performance
My CT goes before my side torsos 80% of the time nayways